St Vincent - s/t (25 February 2014)

that last one wasn't so bad in a 'started from the bottom(ish), look at me now' kind of way. but i remember the (by far) lowest point of SV's Cambridge showin the UK, with this whole routine where Annie 'supposed' things about the collected histories of the audience: 'When you were young, you used to trap insects and pull their wings off just to see what would happen' (or something like that), and I don't know if it was a cultural misunderstanding but it all fell so flat, with just a few nonplussed giggles coming from an otherwise silent audience.

idgi -- what's weird about that statement? she's just talking about her experiences?

I feel as if she's positioning her former "small-business model" in a negative light in opposition to her current blessed big box indie model. The surprise ending! "I loved it all." Like, if only all my favourite bands could be making $500 a night and staying in motels.

ah ok
that makes sense
bedbugs aren't a one-night only affair either, they'll stowaway in a corner of your bag and follow you forever

I mean

I barely want to have this conversation, I feel unmixed pleasure about her Grammy win. But I have been having larger issues with big biz indie, both as audience and participant, ethically and aesthetically. And as it is difficult for me to discern what is or is not coloured by professional jealousy, I generally save this shit for my lucky therapist.

My personal rule is that if somebody else is setting up your gear for you, you should probably think about breaking up the band. And if there's an in-ear monitor? cancel the tour immediately. Nobody wants to see or hear that.

the homeless man thing was a little weird but meh

we also need a veggie sub rate in order to understand just how many veggie subs she ate! what if the appropriate veggie sub rate that she's referencing is 60 veggie subs per second?! that would be an award worthy number of veggie subs! give her the golden sub!

you folks are harsh

sigh

high standards for the people we love is all

Thanks for reminding me of all the reasons I generally tend to avoid ILM these days, guys. I really needed that.

You're welcome!

I am fine with her not following fgti's personal rules.

my personal rule is that if you normally save shit for your therapist you should continue

These fucking dumb personal rules are for myself, not for anyone else. I suppose it'd be easier to have same conversation about a more-roundly-despised big box indie act.

@ katherine I've been taught to "save it for therapy" most of my life, but I've found it ultimately more beneficial to maintain a social circle that is comfortable with sharing their anxieties

I am not talking about St. Vincent specifically, I am talking about the ugliness of when indie-gets-big-business shows, I have literally had this exact conversation with all possible indictable acts, with responses from "I know how you feel, 200-to-400 people is a perfect-sized crowd and I've been eager to dial it back" to "I don't care what the audience wants, full steam ahead".

Generally I've been "I'm OK, you're OK" about small-business, big-business, it's all good, sell tickets play shows. But reading things like Ian Cohen describing small business models as being rooted in "indie defeatism", to this statement which seems to posit that the current-and-future reality for many indie acts ($250-a-show, Motel 6) is something to be overcome, left behind... it is extremely frustrating to read. Like I wrote e-mails to [band] and [band] when they hired lighting techs and/or monitor engineers to say "don't do it" and they did anyway and lost money on those tours.

i am glad that she is getting paid for what she does and hope that she enjoys every sandwich

pomplamoose have not made it yet

katherine: sick burn on charles mingus there

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Hear @St_Vincent interview Gang Of Four's Andy Gill http://bit.ly/1FbGwvo

i should know better than to believe internet celeb couple rumours (remember when that frank ocean x miguel rumour got some traction?) but i'm so into the idea of annie & delevingne being gfs

another new track:

http://pitchfork.com/news/58251-st-vincent-shares-teenage-talk-written-for-hbos-girls/

Is it more rigid robot funk?

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Hey St Vincent fans - any recommendations for a newbie to her stuff? I've enjoyed scattered tracks like "Surgeon", "Cheerleader" and "Prince Johnny".

she's got a new one coming out this year, i think. maybe wait and see how it is?

honestly the s/t was the first of hers i've liked and i LOOOOOOOOVE it, so maybe that?

i thought the s/t was more uneven than "strange mercy" but that the highs were higher.

Actor was my gateway. But they're all good.

her last few records are quite different and yet...somehow extremely the same. I'd like to hear her loosen up her arrangements a bit for diversity's sake.

there's a sterility to her records that makes them not stand up to a whole lot of relistening for me even as I admire the craft

otm. I thought s/t was great all the way through, but its consistency makes me more likely to play individual tracks than the whole album

I think all of them after the first one are amazing. The first one is really good but just short of amazing.

Actor is my favourite but I do love all four of her albums in different ways. I think the self titled might be the best introduction to her.

I didn't get into her until "Prince Johnny" convinced me to give the s/t a shot. I liked it quite a bit and still need to go back and listen to the earlier records.

Also, "Teenage Talk," her one-off single from 2015, is really great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7IYosdzUX8

Actor and the S/T album are both great. Not so much a fan of Strange Mercy (other than 'Cruel' which is a great song).

Actor > Strange Mercy > Love This Giant > s/t

never listened much to Marry Me

but it's all great, highy recommend seeing her live if you get the chance

my fav song is the party:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9L3D1w8KcY

also this is a good watch if fx you feel like a lump

"Teenage Talk" is the best thing she's ever done, hope album 5 sounds similar (also hope album 5 comes out this year). s/t is her most cohesive album, imo (in the minority that like it better than Strange Mercy).

Niels - That's a great track