― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 17 February 2006 04:18 (twenty years ago)
*Aquamarine* soundtrack peaks, in great Hope Partlow Samantha Jo tradition with another GREAT summer song, "Summertime Guys" by longtime Disney pop C-lister Nikki Cleary, which has a killer rumbling bounce of a beat I can't put my finger on - not quite Bow Wow Wow, not quite Bo Diddley, but pretty close taxonomincally: early Sweet, maybe? I dunno, something like that. Song is written by Jeffrey W Coplan (who also produced it), Nikki Cleary, and Robert Ellis Orrall, the last of whom sort of existed on the commercial country/late-Creem powerpop cusp once upon a time and had a #32 Carlene Carter duet pop hit in 1983 with "I Couldn't Say No," and bigger country hits later than that I believe. (See above: "barndance mixer" "Boom! It Was Over" on 1995 K-Tel comp *Country Kickers.*)
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
miko marks, *freeway bound*: one of the things that cdbaby seems like it might be useful for is finding out about black people singing country music, since you can quickly scan CD covers which tend to have photos of singers. i've contacted a couple so far, and really wanted to like miko marks, who like grand funk and michael moore is from flint, michigan. she's pictured with charlie pride in her press kit and hints in there also at having a soul music influence, but sadly i don't hear it in her music at all. what i mostly hear in her singing i guess is reba mcentire, and despite liking a few early reba hits (and one album that's actually on my shelf -- *whoever's in new england* i believe), i'm realizing there's something i inherently kinda dislike about reba's voice. maybe it sounds pinched to me or something? anyway, a couple of miko marks' songs are ok, but nothing has grabbed me so far. which doesn't mean some won't eventually, if i give them more of a chance, and i will.
tea leaf green, *taught to be proud*: these guys are also on cdbaby -- four albums, though oddly apparently not this one. and actually i don't remember contacting them about their music, and can't imagine why i would have. this just fell into my lap, somehow. it came out in '05, though if they have a show coming in new york (one reason they may have sent it to me), i haven't noticed. anyway, i kind of like it. its sound reminds me of *workingman's dead,* extremely pretty/hooky/grooveful folk-rock with nice exploratory guitar endings. best one so far is in a song called, um, "rapture," which is not a blondie cover but a song about how the rapture is coming. which would maybe mean they're HARDCORE christians and scary ones, except the lyrics of "rapture" (sung from the point of view as "a gambler with no bankroll" apparently avoiding the "law man") remind me of "renegade" by styx. they mention the Lord in other songs, though. so still Xtian, i guess.
The Tossers, *The Valley of the Shadow of Death*: On Victory Records, which inevitably makes me think I'll hate it, and the only reason I played it is because they *do* have a show coming up in NYC (opening for Dropkick Murphys, which is appropriate as you'll see), and I can make a few bucks by writing a show preview. Ended up liking it a lot more than I expected to -- maybe the best approximation of the Pogues' *Rum Sodomy and the Lash* by an American band I've heard (the Murphys being more like *Red Roses of Me*), hence belonging on the country thread given country's roots in Celtic folk. The Tossers apparently come from an Irish Catholic neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, which would make me wonder why the hell the singer sings in an Irish accent and spells jail "gaol" on the lyric sheet except that I now live in Sunnyside, Queens, which contains something like 15 Irish bars within a few blocks of my apartment (no exagerration, I swear), and people sure do talk with Irish accents in those, despite this also happening to be the United States. Anyway, the album sounds really good, especially the last couple tracks which get quite dark and beautiful and apparently (according to the liner notes) include within them a couple jigs and/or reels originally performed by the Chieftans.
Speaking of Irish bars, I just had a beer at one on the way home from dropping my daughter off at the Port Authority so she could catch the bus back to Bucks County after the weekend, and they played "The Stranger" by Billy Joel, which I never paid attention to much before (it's about how everybody has a split personality or something) and realized maybe it was an attempt to do a reggae song (by the way, I think Mikael Wood underrated Billy Joel in his Voice lead review a few weeks ago, and I actually myself wrote a Voice lead Billy Joel review once in the late '80s explaining what I don't quite hate about him) and they (= said Sunnyside Irish bar) also played "Richard Corey" by Simon & Garfunkel, which I also never paid attention to much before (it's about how some banker's son owns half the town and the singer works in his factory but the rich guy winds up shooting himself) and realized maybe it was an attempt to sound like the Kinks. Has that ever occured to anybody before? (Also both songs belong here since obviously both Billy Joel and Simon & Garfunkel have since influenced commercial country, though I can't think of specifics now.)
Finally, uh, Rockie Lynne's album is on right now. I kinda hate it I think. Not sure why. He just sounds bland and smug or something. The single "Lipstick" is maybe not all that awful -- just another tequila sunrise about going on a spur of the moment vacation to El Paso and elsewhere and sleeping in the desert with your gal, okay, what the hell, I can live with it. More interesting perhaps is "Super Country Cowboy", which is a sort of post-talking blues rap about how Rockie is this new kind of evangelical psychedelic cowboy playing a new kind of country that acknowledges the existence of the Rolling Stones and mp3s. Or something like that. Seemed rather forced to me. But the rest seems even suckier so far.
(okay, maybe not so brief. sorry!)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:33 (twenty years ago)
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)
pss) miko marks has apparently collaborated with eykah badu, though i'm not sure when.
psss) unclear whether the tossers have *songs* near the level of the pogues's early on; the singer's alright, but he's missing something, i'm not sure what. they sure can reel, though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)
-- tea leaf green are WAY more expansive, explorartion-wise, than either nickel creek or little big town. i guess what reminded me of those bands is the mandolins and/or close harmonies, i'm not sure. But 7 of the 11 songs on this album last 4:53 or longer, so yeah, I guess that's why they're considered a jam band. Why I haven't been *hearing* them as a jam band, I guess, is that the jams seem to emerge so naturally out of the super melodic songs, and the jams stay melodic (and rhythmic) while they happen, so i just hear them more as, um, "long incidental instrumental breaks." fairport convention's in there some, and maybe even steely dan. congas on two tracks. i tend to prefer their longer songs.
-- miko marks has a blues and soul influence in her singing after all, but it tends to show up more in her ballads ("don't come cryin' to me," the plight-of-the-impoverished protest "the lonely one," and my fave so far "feelin' the rain") which seem to be less plentiful than her more upbeat songs. which can be fun (esp the road song "freeway bound" and the very vaguely caribbean-lilted-in-a-phil-vassar-kinda-way summer song "all i wanna do"), but which are mostly just two-steps that sound like the kind of stuff that might have showed up on country stations in the early '90s. i may be wrong about her reba influence; miko sounds like *somebody* from that era, though maybe not reba. maybe somebody (even?) more trad-sounding than reba who i can't quite place. either way, i'm liking her more.
-- the tossers seem more interesting in their slower songs ("drinking in the day," "presab san ol," "the valley of the shadow of death", etc) than their more upbeat ones as well. there is something a little rote-sounding and hopscotchy about the latter, like for instance the dad-i'm-in-gaol-don't-tell-mom-and-don''t-come-post-my-bail opener. for some reason both the singer and rhythm section find their footing more when things slow down.
--at least one song from the *high school musical* OST, "breaking free", sounds as much like a pop-country power ballad to me as a teen-pop power ballad (isn't that one of the big download hits? i think so, since it's one of two tracks with a "karaoke instrumental" version at the end of the CD. and come to think of it, the instumental - which i I kind of like; when I first heard it, it was in my random CD changer, and I guessed it was by either tea leaf green or the tossers! -- sounds somewhat rural or pastoral or whatever as well.) the non-karaoke rendition is said to be sung by leading man troy + leading lady gabrielle.
-- finally, back to Nashville: Did anybody else here notice that dykey member Kristen Hall did not perform with Sugarland at the Grammys a couple weeks ago? I did, and wondered what the hell was up, but then forgot about it the next day. Well, yesterday I saw one of those glossy country mags on a newsstand, and it said Sugarland are now a duo -- Kristen claims to have quit because touring was cutting into her time for writing, etc. Sorry, but I don't buy it. The article also hinted that Jennifer Nettles may wind up with a solo career. Given how Kristen and also goofy nerdy guy Kristian Bush seemed to occupy less and less camera time whenever Sugarland showed up on TV as the past year progressed, I'm really wondering to what extent the weirder looking members were being squeezed out of the picture. And I'm not sure who to blame it on, but whoever's doing it can kiss my ass.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 15:25 (twenty years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 February 2006 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)
>(the most and maybe only country thing about "breaking free" might be gabrielle aka vanessa anne hudgens's vocal inflections as her intensity picks up. i'm guessing if anybody on here has a future, it's her.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:52 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 19:06 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:54 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― brianiast (briania), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)
listening to Scott Miller's "Citation" (that's a car which he borrows in the title song and in which he screws his girlfriend he's amazed he has). produced by Jim Dickinson, who has a real genius for recording drums, seems to me. so, sorta Earle-Cougar with more eccentric kick to it, probably belongs on this thread. definitely something like "Freedom's a Stranger" is "country music" or at least folkie country. touches of Mekons creep-oid guitar overlay in "Only Everything," and drums far more tribal and loose than anything attempted in Nashville (well, maybe Mark Nevers does it sometimes). I'm not especially big on Earle-Cougar heartland explorations of youth and age and all that--I have my moments with it and actually like Cougar better than Earle--but this is pretty good, esp. the blues-stomp "8 Miles a Gallon." "Cracker with a truck-stop whore," "invent a big engine, make it run on bullshit," you get the idea, I hope. somewhere in the Todd Snider territory, too. needs and deserves more listens but I like this guy, and sorry I missed his previous stuff. I think he's from Knoxville.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)
Discuss.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 21:04 (twenty years ago)
-- There is a female country singer named "Bomshel" (as in bombshell, apparently) who has a debut album coming out on Curb this year.
--Bluegrass band Cherryholmes, who I think I may have heard once and was bored by, have one guy in overalls with a ZZ Top beard who looks like an insane biker that could be the kentucky headhunters' grandpa.
-- Also, there is a photo of Big & Rich jumping on a bed together.
(among other things).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)
Willie Nelson, "Cowboys Are Frequently (Secretly Fond of Each Other)": Not as good as Ned Sublette's track on *New York Noise Vol. 2* (Soul Jazz, 2006). Also, not as good as anything on my favorite Willie Nelson album *Night and Day* (Free Falls Entertainment, 1999), which has no singing on it, interestingly enough. Disappointing. The way Willie says "fuck" is even clunkier than the rest of it. (6.5.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)
― Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:30 (twenty years ago)
I'm surprised to hear this Anthony - I've seen NC live three times now, and they're one of the best live acts I've had the pleasure of experiencing. Maybe that's changed in the past year, but their shows have always been sincere, exhuberant and a real artist-audience connection moment. Venues were great - Borderline, Academy Islington, Union Chapel (rip). Nothing smarmy IMHO, in fact, when they break out the acoustic finale section I'm always stunned into blissful silence and remember why the hell I bother with music at all.
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:26 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:33 (twenty years ago)
Chuck, your take on Roseanne is the first dissenting view I've seen--everything I'm aware of has been laudatory. I haven't even heard it yet myself. Just sitting down with Marshall Chapman this evening, for real--had it on in the background a couple days ago and got involved in something else. However, I did snag a copy of her autobio "Goodbye Little Rock and Roller" from her publicist Tamara Saviano, who also got me a copy of the new Radney Foster--I've always kinda liked his work--and the "Rednecks and Bluenecks" book, in which Saviano plays a part: she was operations manager at the Great American Country cable channel, CMT's competition, and ran afoul of some right-wing attitudes re Charlie Daniels' "Open Letter to the Hollywood Bunch." She got the Daniels piece from a publicist, and she asked him to take her off that e-mail list, and then fired off a response to the publicist suggesting that perhaps Charlie might be due a boycott himself (this was around the time of the flap over Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks). anyway, she got fired, since although technically the email wasn't a company thing, it did have her company signature at bottom. now she runs a little media/publicity company on Music Row, very nice person. and obviously, a Democrat. she won a Grammy for the Stephen Foster tribute CD "Beautiful Dreamer."
anyway, "Rednecks" is a good look at the politics of Nashville--superior journalism. and Marshall's book I've scanned, but it's funny, elegant, affecting, so far. looking forward to relaxing with "Mellowicious" tonight...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)
has anyone heard battlestar america--they call themselves hick hop, and politically interesting (ie left), and aside from geography seem pretty standard hip hop, but they have flow, and the musics tight--mp3s here: http://www.b-star.net/what_we_do.html
― Anthony Easton, Thursday, 23 February 2006 05:40 (twenty years ago)
I've got the Battlestar America CD around here somewhere; impressed me not at all when I played it last year, but I'll try to try again.
Now listening to Brityn Lotz, *Straight Ahead* 2005 self-released/cdbaby-distributed pop-soul-country from Louisiana, a solid ten songs including good-enough covers of "I Feel the Earth Move" and "Knock on Wood," though the two best and most rocking tracks are clearly "Back to Lafeyette" (I swear I like pretty much any song that mentions "the Ponchatrain" and I STILL think it's a hotel in Detroit) and "One Eighty" (about a a lady having a midlife crisis and pulling a 180, lots of specifics therein). I also enjoy the early '80s MTV semitechnopop production of "Lightly" (about angels, yet it doesn't make me gag at all) and the talked part at the end of "I Don't Play That Game." Good album, not remotely shy about incorportating r&b.
>Chuck, your take on Roseanne is the first dissenting view I've seen--everything I'm aware of has been laudatory. <
Yeah well, not to cynical, Edd, but it's a *concept album (at least ostensibly) about Johnny Cash (and other country hall of famers in her family) dying.* "Laudatory" is kind of a foregone conclusion, isn't it? With that concept, she could've released a blank CD, and every country critic in the world would have gotten down on their knees and sung hosannas. (And the ones who don't give a shit won't review it anyway, right?) The album's okay -- not as dire and dreary as some stuff I've heard by Rosanne in the past two decades, which is an accomplishement, given the concept. But she was way better in 1981.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:23 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)
Birdie Bush seems more interesting to me. I need to take her home and put her in my CD changer with the new album by Espers, and figure out which (if any) has more Fairport Convention pastoral gorgeousness. (They're both from Philly, right? Where phreak pholk lives, I guess.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:42 (twenty years ago)
By the way, for aficionados of the white-black conversation that Simon Reynolds thinks barely exists right now, "Rush" starts its drone w/ hip-hop/r&b beats accompanying it, but then shifts to rock beats for the rest of the song.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:44 (twenty years ago)
Plus Bertha Payne telling that guy to get off the pot obviously also connects to whatever Millie Jackson LP pictured her on the toilet.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:45 (twenty years ago)
Yeah, Chuck, Pinmonkey is pretty blah. I probably always give too much of a free ride to those kind of powerpoppy things, but altho "Big Shiny" is certainly nice and I quite like two or three songs, they have nothing to say. I just filed a Nash Scene piece on them, and so I have listened to their '02 Paul Worley record and the new one a lot. I can't discern any real difference. just formalists--shit, they can't even work up enuff anger in the song about not getting a good table to make it sound real. one of those records that sounds good until you listen close, then it still sounds good but why bother. they're Poco--in fact, they're doing a show here with Poco soon. "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do" does what Pinmonkey tries to do with much more power and commercial savvy, as does the best stuff on Dierks' last 'un. they need to find something to sing about, Pinmonkey does--like beer and trucks and stuff.
and Chuck, glad you're diggin' the Keith Anderson record. I still find some of it under- or badly sung, and that pederast-Jesus song still makes me gag, but it's grown on me over the last few months--esp. "Plan B," which I think you mentioned above.
and in total agreement about Roseanne Cash--she was far better twenty-five years ago. finally heard a few tracks from the new one, and I don't get the critical love--absolutely she's always gotten a free ride from critics. give me the feisty Carlene Carter any day.
and I finished the "Rednecks and Bluenecks" book. I recommend. the chapter on the history of country in wartime and election time, "Town & Country, Jungle & Trench," is great. Dave Dudley's '66 "Talkin' Vietnam Blues" and Harlan Howard's '68 album "To the Silent Majority, With Love," which contains the awesome lines: "They're needing you boy and you're sitting in your coffeehouse/Whatcha gonna do when your woman begs you save her from a mouse?" the fabled Nashville songwriting at its most trenchant.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)
yikes! which track is this, edd?? guess i need to listen closer...
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:27 (twenty years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 24 February 2006 06:20 (twenty years ago)
anyone--suggest for me some Gene Watson. Old Gene Watson, I've heard his latest one. I was in Robert's Western World on Lower Broad last night having a beer and heard a really good band play some old Gene Watson tunes--"14-Carat Heart," I think one was called. I need to investigate him further, I think.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:20 (twenty years ago)
kayla locicero, *beautiful world*, cdbaby teen-country from small-town louisiana. opens with its most interesting track, the part (sort-of)-rapped title cut, which starts with (literally) a giggle from kayla and from there is about her neighbors, one of whom is chinese and says kayla talks funny since she's from louisiana, and another of whom is jamaican and is learning english by listening to country radio in the cab he drives all night, plus another line rhymes "ph.D." with "aborigone" though i can't figure out why. later on kayla says "que pasa" and "por favor", so it's sweet if kinda condescending in its we-are-the-world-we-are-the-childen way. more evidence that either kayla or her songwriters might be liberal are the two rock songs about rebel girls: (1) "outside the lines", based on a glam-rock-i-guess riff (reminds me of the kings, though more likely swiped from the hollies or t.rex) and about a girl who "colors outside the lines, just a little to the left," but never really says how so maybe she's just bad with crayons and (2) "she's ready for a revolution," which naturally never specifies what the revolution consists of but its riff comes straight outta john cougar's "small town" all through so who cares. then there's a couple pretty good songs ("bobbi rae" and "what she wants") about apparently working women searching for meaning in their lives, which i THINK turns out to be finding a husband and a nuclear family in both though i'm not completely sure. then there's another MAYBE liberal one called "a little good news" which sounds kinda familiar (and yep, i just checked AMG, i must've heard the anne murray version before though br-459 did it too) where an anchorman says this war is wrong and people say the economy is bad and getting worse and there needs to be a change in policy so we need to start hearing all the good news about bad stuff that DIDN'T happen today, you know (but hey it beats the news song on terri clark's last album). and then there are sundry bluegrass-ish duets and mush-ish ballads including at least one song ("a brave new world") that i'm guessing concerns being born again and a weird one called "the halls of st. jude" that i didn't figure out yet (isn't he the patron saint of lost causes or something?) and one sappy thing ("it comes from you") that i really hate and one sappy song about how she loves her daddy (paper heart) that i hated at first but second time through it choked me up a little, hey gimme a break, i'm a dad too you know. spirited singing and hooks throughout.
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 February 2006 18:50 (twenty years ago)
-- Joseph McCombs (jmccomb...), February 14th, 2006.
YAY! Willie debuted this week at #52 on the Hot 100! He's not charting country and I doubt he will, but I'm as giddy as Clay Aiken at White Party right now. Glad to see that someone else who colors outside the lines and a LOT to the left is getting rewarded for his efforts.
― Joe McCombs, posting from SF, Friday, 24 February 2006 20:33 (twenty years ago)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:49 (twenty years ago)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 25 February 2006 06:07 (twenty years ago)
thumbs down on birdie bush. basically devoid of energy, and not as pretty as it should be.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 17:26 (twenty years ago)
New Garrison Starr: still folkie-indie-country, but weirder than her last one, which is a good thing.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:58 (twenty years ago)
shedaisy has recorded two versions of american housewife, i think--since the soundtrack that it first appeared on said american, and the video up north here says canadian--is this interesting.
whats the jessi colter called?
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 26 February 2006 00:08 (twenty years ago)
anthony, you rank with the most cryptic people on earth. how *what* doesn't work anymore? (plenty of hippies were rednecks in the '70s, right? or was that your point?)
also, you mean in canada the shedaisy song is called "canadian housewife"? that's wacky!
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 01:01 (twenty years ago)