I mean I agree w you Ray, but lots of people don't listen to music that way and do draw battle lines between aesthetics. It may be stupid, but people do it (Kim Gordon acknowledges as much in her quote). Granted this is less common with musicians.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:27 (nine years ago) link
Maybe BC is the real elitist here thinking listening to Rush/Boston is some kind of maverick thing to do.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:35 (nine years ago) link
Isn't she just using "in no way punk rock" as a synonym for corny here? I mean, maybe Kim Gordon really was viewing the world through a Maximum RocknRoll purity lens at the age of 40, but my guess is that it was more about "This guy is way too thirsty for the validation of rock fame" than "He likes Rush and Boston"
― intheblanks, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Also UMS totally otm in multiple posts. xp
― intheblanks, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:40 (nine years ago) link
"ok kim, billy may be a star tantrum-prone asshole, but where do you get off using punk rock as a shorthand for cool?"
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:51 (nine years ago) link
all billy ever wanted to do is make great music for everyone and challenge the hipster paradigm...
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:52 (nine years ago) link
heard the pumpkins' "landslide" on the radio and i'd like to reaffirm that billy has done REALLY WELL for himself considering he sings like jon lovitz as harvey feinstein doing "love to love you baby"
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 17:56 (nine years ago) link
fierstein, rather
Billy Corgan = Bill ClintonSonic Youth = Mitt Romney
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
Poliopolice = Maureen Dowd
― da croupier, Thursday, 5 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link
I like both Boston & Sonic Youth, Rush suck hard though
― example (crüt), Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
elephant in the room re: Boston & Sonic Youth
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
(and Kim and Billco too)
I didn't mean to disparage Rush (though fuck Boston). I meant that Corgan used to embrace these supposedly uncool bands, because to hell with what's fashionable, man! But at the same he so clearly, vocally wanted to be fashionable. Like, he could hang with Rick Nielsen at will, but his eye was on Sonic Youth, or Pavement, or all these people at the cool party he wasn't invited to. Very insecure.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:27 (nine years ago) link
Boston is so much better than Rush. Sheesh!
― how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link
^ Said nobody, ever.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
And by "Boston" I assume you mean their first album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
The gauntlet has been thrown!
Boston vs. Rush
― how's life, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link
he's just a teenager in love
― nauru, Thursday, 5 February 2015 20:57 (nine years ago) link
if you are puzzled why kims thayil or gordon might have had problems with billy corgan then you really should meet the man. it's not because he loves uncool records. it's about personality and behaviour.
also, smashing pumpkins' best song, drown, always sounded to me like a Boston song segueing into a Sonic Youth song. i remember him almost playing drown at brixton academy in 1993, but he stopped after strumming the opening riff because the uk music press had been horrible to him that week and he said london didn't deserve it. then he came on dressed as a clown for the encore because everett true had called him a clown in a review.
again, it's about personality and behaviour.
― #Research (stevie), Friday, 6 February 2015 09:37 (nine years ago) link
Whereas, he seemd to take a holiday from himself when he was in New Order.
― Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2015 12:11 (nine years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFnWKP7W0AAFcJ4.jpg
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:57 (nine years ago) link
wait, is billy the surprise for three lucky winners? they'll need a big fuckin box to fit him in
― bizarro gazzara, Friday, 22 May 2015 13:58 (nine years ago) link
hahahaha came here to post that pic
― global tetrahedron, Friday, 22 May 2015 14:46 (nine years ago) link
The "surprise" is a tantrum from Billy, btw.
― Matt DC, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:08 (nine years ago) link
A wrestling match in a steel cage (despite all his rage).
― nashwan, Friday, 22 May 2015 15:12 (nine years ago) link
Oh, I thought this was gonna be about Fruity
http://loudwire.com/marilyn-manson-billy-corgan-band-flavor-flav-jenna-jameson/
― cause baby, now we got dad bod (how's life), Friday, 22 May 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
small-batch foods
― Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 22 May 2015 15:18 (nine years ago) link
Ric Ocasek's Troublizing is an underrated means of getting a mid-'90s Corgan fix
― example (crüt), Monday, 6 July 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link
http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/07/24213002/1437755229_billy-corgan-zoom-640x462.jpg
― how's life, Saturday, 25 July 2015 11:05 (eight years ago) link
I'd be fine with never knowing the context for that picture, but the ambiguity of Billy's expression does intrigue me. Is he happy? Sad? Scared? Desperate for a piss?
― Pheeel, Saturday, 25 July 2015 12:06 (eight years ago) link
The core. The heart music. Thomas & The Tank Engines.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 25 July 2015 13:16 (eight years ago) link
lol
― Archaic Buster Poindexter, Live At The Apollo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2015 13:20 (eight years ago) link
I like to imagine he was having a great time until he spotted the photographer
― oh, i am a lonlely poster. i live in a box of posts. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 July 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
He looks like he's just licked some piss off of a nettle.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Saturday, 25 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
worst make-a-wish foundation trip ever
― bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 26 July 2015 16:44 (eight years ago) link
http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/07/billy-corgan-asked-whether-courtney-love-killed-kurt-cobain-and-things-got-uncomfortable-fast/
"Corgan got defensive — and fast"
Methinks the lady doth protest too much...
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
seems like a reasonable response to me
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link
weird headline: "Billy Corgan asked whether Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain, and things got uncomfortable fast"
too bad they couldn't fit "was" between "Corgan" and "asked"
― 1992 ball boy (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link
(I know, just kidding. Although it IS always funny to see BC get pissy, however justified it may be.)
― Sam Weller, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link
"We Asked Billy Corgan Whether Courtney Love killed Kurt Cobain, You'll Never Guess What Happened Next!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link
paste into any BC profile
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
one weird trick to make billy corgan defensive
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link
weird tip, i am one
― welltris (crüt), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 15:26 (eight years ago) link
Augustus Juppiter Corgan
http://celebritybabies.people.com/2015/12/22/billy-corgan-welcomes-son-augustus-juppiter/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link
misspelling makes me furious.
― goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:45 (eight years ago) link
https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/Juppiter
― miss me belial (crüt), Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
no way
― goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:57 (eight years ago) link
"I found it in a mystic text!"
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link
if he insists on pronouncing it YEU-pee-tehr i'll give him a pass
― goole, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:17 (eight years ago) link