An over-reliance on locations and names in lyrics is not to my taste. But: Dawson does it so much and so arrogantly I feel he's doing it deliberately to mock American songwriters who have interstates and national parks they'll namedrop without thinking about it. I mean, I think he's "taking the piss"
I think more specifically, the apocalyptic content of The Vile Stuff, wouldn't be as apparent if he didn't name all of the apostles [Thadeus, James and James Solicitors = James Son Of James, Miss Bartholemew…] so whether he's mocking or not, the list of names is kind of what the song's all about and it wouldn't work without them.
― Doran, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:26 (eleven years ago)
I dig this and I love the place-naming. His lyrics remind me of Nigel Blackwell although straining for a darkly surreal and wild poetic quality rather than Blackwell's comedy of the mundane.
― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:50 (eleven years ago)
amazing detail about the apostles - I totally missed that
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:52 (eleven years ago)
well i'll be...
― rem remrum (dog latin), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:04 (eleven years ago)
^
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 14:05 (eleven years ago)
Listening to this record with a bit of a wobble on this morning, s'got me all over the place, am a mess
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 7 February 2015 11:59 (eleven years ago)
:)
think this might be my favourite music of the last few years. Nigel Blackwell gone art-folk makes sense as a comparison bit there's something more wide-eyed and Romantic about Dawson's outlook (not that Blackwell lacks these qualities entirely). I don't think Dawson would be overly given to snipe at things he disapproves of.
― pro war Toby Keith songs would rub you the wrong way (imago), Saturday, 7 February 2015 12:08 (eleven years ago)
I like the press of accumulating, involuntary and unwelcome minutiae vs. and I don't care about these thingsWhy do they remain so clear while the faces of my loved ones disappear? That's life, kid, more and more: the memories you have vs. the ones you *should* have, even want to have. But there can be a liberation or release, relief, in submitting to that, in art, at least.
― dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:43 (eleven years ago)
Although he doesn't sound relieved yet. Letting it spew, though.
― dow, Saturday, 7 February 2015 14:45 (eleven years ago)
The delivery and placement of that line is so great
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 15:56 (eleven years ago)
Olllld karate trophies
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 7 February 2015 16:04 (eleven years ago)
just listening to The Ice-Breaker Baikal on the way home, magnificent
― woof, Saturday, 7 February 2015 17:44 (eleven years ago)
The theme of the apostles - and other religious matters - came up in an interview I carried out with Richard Dawson last week if anyone's interested.
― Doran, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:53 (eleven years ago)
god's work, doran
― Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:16 (eleven years ago)
He knocked on the door and my brother answered. I was frightened so I hid behind the door. I peeped around and saw that he had come in a big old dragster car (we actually had a little dragster racing board game at the time). It was parked at the end of the drive and the engine was still growling. I remember I was really scared. The Easter Bunny understood this and leaned around the door to look squarely at me. He was very serious and not like a cartoon bunny. He was a very realistic looking rabbit, but human sized and wearing quite simple clothes. He looked at me and was very solemn. Then he slowly nodded and handed me a chocolate egg. I cannot stress how melancholy an air this giant rabbit had about him. Then he got back in his dragster and roared off.
brb going to create a sort of cultish wallchart with dawson, julian cope, cardiacs, oliver postgate, dylan thomas and some others until british pastoralia leaps forth connected as a sort of salvation
dawson on religion is as close to my own position as anyone i've read
he is beyond, a marvel
― Josh Whitehurst the endowed drummer and backing vocalist (imago), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:19 (eleven years ago)
great great interview, thanks doran
― woof, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:30 (eleven years ago)
cheers, i've 'pocketed' this for later reading.
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 14:31 (eleven years ago)
Excellent interview, that.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:22 (eleven years ago)
yes, thanks
― sleeve, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:25 (eleven years ago)
That's great.
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 10 February 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
Great interview. Fascinating that he works on the lyrics for so long. Apart from maybe Leonard Cohen, I don't think I've heard someone talk about working on a lyric to a single song in that way.
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 23:50 (eleven years ago)
Fucking hell, that's an amazing interview.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 February 2015 08:56 (eleven years ago)
just broke open a coconut and because of the cautionary tale on this album all I could think of was not to use a screwdriver under any circumstances
ftr I hit it with a big wrench and did not injure myself
― hot takes: audit in progress (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 February 2015 20:37 (eleven years ago)
Who's going to the Lexington tonight?
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:43 (eleven years ago)
sold out by the time I found out - but hunting a spare ticket today & strongly tempted to go along and see if can get one there
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 10:52 (eleven years ago)
Ruth Flecknell We did go on a ghost hunt at featherstone but the real spirit was definitely in that bottle and the trip to haltwhistle was in my car- a helicopter would have been much more well driven! It was definitely a weird experience for the adults as well as the youngsters we took. The genius is in the way you narrate the event and from the adult perspective looking back I can see how bizarre it was on so many levels for some of the children on the periphery of events. Good luck with your tour, I will catch your next one, the tickets were sold out this time before I woke up to how in vogue you are Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:05
RICHARD DAWSON Mrs Flecknell - there will always be room for you at a gig, please remember this!Like · Reply · 10 February at 15:15
Ruth Flecknell I will. Thanks richard. You deserve your success.Like · Reply · 1 · 10 February at 15:16
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:16 (eleven years ago)
the best person. 'Mrs Flecknell'!!!
didn't get a ticket for tonight :( and scarletmist is gone :(:(
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:27 (eleven years ago)
thinking there's no great hardship sitting in a pub for a couple of hours and keeping an ear open for spares & returns.
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:47 (eleven years ago)
maybe we might join you tbh
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:50 (eleven years ago)
how big is the venue? slightly surprising he has such a followingcity boys paying high three figures on the secondary no doubt
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:51 (eleven years ago)
by 'we' i mean me and my fifteen friends, all of whom like to barge in front
the lexington is what i'd call a 'large pub venue'
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 13:52 (eleven years ago)
i reckon I'll recognise you lj, so I'll say hello, shake hands before the fight to the death over the single spare.
Vile Stuff as city boy drinking anthem, I can see it
― woof, Thursday, 12 February 2015 14:03 (eleven years ago)
If I wasn't feeling like shit I would have joined you, but no doubt he'll be playing Cafe Oto at some point soon.
how big is the venue? slightly surprising he has such a following
I'm not at all surprised!
― Nut-bloody-rageous (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 February 2015 14:48 (eleven years ago)
we are here (it's near my gf's work)...let the hunt begin
― not that sort of birdwatcher (imago), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:52 (eleven years ago)
Awww man Mrs Flecknell
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 12 February 2015 18:55 (eleven years ago)
He was incredible last night. Did an 80 minute set, felt too short. I got a little overexcited and drank a whole bottle of red wine during the set and could barely walk afterwards, I blame him doing The Vile Stuff last, if he'd done it first I'd have felt forewarned.
http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10979611_1413180728981101_1236214605_n.jpg
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Saturday, 14 February 2015 13:49 (eleven years ago)
Had to leave the Lexington after four songs because I was getting besieged by texts about Steve Strange and had to go and sort out coverage. Unfortunately I was right at the front in the corner, which made getting out horrible for me and everyone I had to get past.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Saturday, 14 February 2015 17:46 (eleven years ago)
Didn't scrounge a ticket, but booked in for May at Bethnal Green WMC.
― woof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 18:20 (eleven years ago)
the qawali element of the vile stuff hadn't really struck me before, but hearing everyone clapping along to it and with dawsons voice wailing high above the rhythm, it was so damn obvious. Could have done without people tunelessly moaning along to poor old horse though, felt like dawson was altering his phrasing every time on that chorus just to try and shake them off his tail
― let me be your fan taytay (NickB), Saturday, 14 February 2015 18:23 (eleven years ago)
The Lex gig was amazing. Poor Old Horse. What an upsetting song.
― Doran, Saturday, 14 February 2015 19:15 (eleven years ago)
Cambridge gig tonight was so good. I've been ill for a few days and thought about not going but reading this thread convinced me - thanks guys! Highlights included stories about his cat, Poor Old Horse, when his guitar string broke halfway through The Vile Stuff and he ended up singing "In Dreams" instead with audience participation.
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― kriss akabusi cleaner (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:16 (eleven years ago)
seandalai i had no idea he was playing cambridge. damn!
― oi listen mate, shut up (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 11:25 (eleven years ago)
Joseph an 84/100 in carpentry? ridiculous.
― you can buy your hair if it won't grow (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 March 2015 22:17 (eleven years ago)
Saw him last night at Bethnal Green WMC. cannot remember being transfixed like that in an age. ghost of a tree…
― woof, Thursday, 14 May 2015 09:05 (eleven years ago)
woah just announced playing in bristol next month with eek and islam chipsy
― nxd, Thursday, 12 November 2015 10:28 (ten years ago)
fuck fuck fuck are tickets on sale?
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 12 November 2015 16:55 (ten years ago)
yep, just £10http://musicglue.com/qu-junktions/events/12-dec-15-islam-chipsy--eek--richard-dawson--kit-wilmans-fegradoe--dave-howell-dj-arnolfini/
― nxd, Thursday, 12 November 2015 17:16 (ten years ago)
damn bit all to hell I can't go.... aaaaargh!!!
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Friday, 13 November 2015 01:26 (ten years ago)
http://thequietus.com/articles/22164-new-richard-dawson
so this is going to be the best album of the decade, then
― an uptempo Pop/Hip Hop mentality (imago), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:39 (nine years ago)
i don't like the new song as much as the stuff on the previous album, but i do like it.
― Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Thursday, 6 April 2017 15:41 (nine years ago)