D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014)

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i think everyone knew really love would do okay as the first/R&B single, hes always done well with ballads on urban radio. i thought the SNL songs were good, you can tell he was a bit nervous, but i dont mind that - thats more honest. for all the JB and prince posturing on the voodoo tour (weirdly when i saw it, i thought it was the best show ive ever seen, when i heard bootlegs later, i started noticing some of the stuff that was lifted a little too exactly from princes old live stuff), dangelo isnt a showman IMO, so its prob better for him to be thicker round the waist or holding a guitar, and just singing rather than being a song and dance man. that said, im not sure how much playing he was really doing (i found the solo on charade a tad corny, personally, something that would have been cool in 83 but a bit less so now), it seemed like the other two guys (jesse johnson?) were doing all the heavy lifting (it also made me realise again how charade seems to be missing a verse). id personally be happy with him just killing it on the keys but i guess he knows that certain audiences/critics dont take you seriously unless youre holding something with six strings.

StillAdvance, Monday, 2 February 2015 10:10 (eleven years ago)

yyyyyyyyyeeeesssssss, copped a pair of orchestra tix to the apollo show this weekend
good to be alive

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:11 (eleven years ago)

:)

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:34 (eleven years ago)

hey forks guess what i hate u

;_;

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:22 (eleven years ago)

i'm in really love with u

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:49 (eleven years ago)

>:(

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:54 (eleven years ago)

haha

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:16 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl-jTixt6C0

StillAdvance, Friday, 6 February 2015 11:00 (eleven years ago)

those are mostly cringey btw. but its interesting just to hear some of the songs stripped down to guitar. 100 deaths and aint that easy in particular sound good. id rather hear someone else singing though.

StillAdvance, Friday, 6 February 2015 11:06 (eleven years ago)

that screen cap is not promising

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 February 2015 15:25 (eleven years ago)

14:37

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 February 2015 15:43 (eleven years ago)

there's a thread where we talked about Morgan James a bit -- she sings a surprisingly good retro soul cover of Maroon 5's "Maps" that has a bunch of hits on YouTube, and she released an album on Epic Records a few months ago with a Prince cover that was on the R&B radio charts a little bit. she's a pretty talented vocalist but obviously not much for original material. if she was gonna cover an album in its entirety maybe BLACK MESSIAH was not the best idea.

some dude, Friday, 6 February 2015 16:00 (eleven years ago)

that screen cap is not promising

OTM ! there's no way I'm clicking on this !

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 6 February 2015 16:02 (eleven years ago)

goddamn it, vinyl was supposed to come out next tuesday just got an email from amazon saying it's indefinitely delayed :/

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 February 2015 16:52 (eleven years ago)

Maybe this guitar guy can help me figure out the chords to The Charade

quan voice (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 February 2015 17:20 (eleven years ago)

does get awkward when shes singing parts of 1000 deaths and charade. :|

StillAdvance, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:23 (eleven years ago)

32.24 underlining my pamplemousse misgivings about the door
which, again, D'Angelo can pull off but not these guys

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 February 2015 18:26 (eleven years ago)

i think dangelos songs are so wedded to his vocal style (and also as they arent always that 'robust' songwriting wise) its kinda pointless anyone trying to cover them

StillAdvance, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:28 (eleven years ago)

Who else is doing this tonight? Jord?

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 7 February 2015 12:44 (eleven years ago)

how was it forks

J0rdan S., Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)

yeah forks

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 February 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)

First and foremost it was LOUD; my #unnamedsource informed me D showed up very late for soundcheck (i was shocked, shocked) and it showed. I spend a lot of time seeing shows standing right by the amps so i'm not easily impressed by sound overkill but this was near Sunn O))) levels. It's always possible my seat position had something to do with it but I got arena level sound in a venue where the music carries too well for that volume to be necessary or desirable. While the band was universally exceptional, I found the mix muddy and nearly unreasonably bass heavy; good as Palladino was, he could be oppressive. I was barely able to make out the backup singers or the keyboards through most of the show and there were several times where it took D's first vocal for me (and, based on audience reaction, most everyone) to realize just what song was playing.

Second, and equally important, D'Angelo sounded EXCELLENT. He was in prime voice: no butterflies, no trepidation and no crowd patter (though, to be fair, he opened with the first four songs or so more or less in the dark... starting with "Prayer" was a pretty ballsy move), dapping the front row, totally driving the band, showing astonishing range and charisma. I went with my lady, who had minimal exposure to D's music outside of my obsessive listening habits, and she left immensely impressed with him as a performer. He did most of Messiah in the first half of the show (no "Betray My Heart" sadly), leaving older hits for the second half.

Third, it was long (about two and a half hours, with two lengthy encores) and occasionally sloppy with exploratory, loopy funk jams that sometimes wobbled without landing. That was a fair tradeoff for the truly memorable moments when they soared and exploded: a ten minute attack on One Mo'Gin, the same amount of time for Sugah Daddy, fifteen minutes on Back to the Future and (the show's best moments) a completely ecstatic and southern-fried Chicken Grease followed by a knockout finale of It's Done into How Does It Feel that ended with D emptying the stage until he played alone on keyboards, leading the crowd in a singalong on the chorus.

The BK Bowl show was an intimate, stripped down living-room show with a focus on where D'Angelo's been; the Apollo concert was an over-the-top rock god jamband blowout spotlight on an artist who still has a lot more to say. Both felt important; both are gonna stick with me a long time.

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 19:24 (eleven years ago)

caramanica came at it from a different angle but i think we kinda had similar takes
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/09/arts/music/dangelos-apollo-theater-show-featured-signature-songs-and-style.html

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 19:30 (eleven years ago)

Cool thanks for the report
Bummer about the mix, bands need to get over their obsession with stage volume

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 8 February 2015 20:27 (eleven years ago)

word. do you wear earplugs at these shows, forks?

lil urbane (Jordan), Sunday, 8 February 2015 20:37 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, I've been doing earplugs at basically every show I go to since about 2010 when tinnitus started seeming like a real possibility

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 20:39 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMei6HOqrek
these videos making me wonder if my placement wasn't contributing at least somewhat to bass overload; was not this clear from where i was sitting... which i think was just about the same distance on mezzanine, just stage left not right.

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 21:47 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJP0B0YeBeY

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 21:49 (eleven years ago)

huh, i think it maybe WAS audience placement because this must've been shot by the guy in the row in front of me; it's exactly the angle we were at
This is what the show sounded like to me (though with MUCH louder bass); passable but muddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5jf_zLvAM

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 21:59 (eleven years ago)

anyways, i def want a board tape really really bad

the plight of y0landa (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 8 February 2015 22:01 (eleven years ago)

hi, Jason King:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2015/02/10/385243069/dangelo-at-the-apollo-we-were-all-here-before

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 February 2015 23:15 (eleven years ago)

Seeing him and his band live this month changed my whole perspective on music.

Arctic Noon Auk, Saturday, 28 February 2015 17:18 (eleven years ago)

Jesus, NPR, even Prince wouldn't go that purple.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 February 2015 18:08 (eleven years ago)

This time last week I was on the tube en route to seeing him at Hammersmith Apollo. It was one of the very best shows I have ever seen in my life, and if I ever get to take that funny pill from the Kids In The Hall movie Brain Candy, I wouldn't be upset if it looped me forever in that epic jam on Sugah Daddy.

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:11 (eleven years ago)

Love D'Angelo, but I wonder if it's the general lack of awesome live acts that is magnifying his impact? He was great a decade or so ago. Is he better?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 February 2015 19:58 (eleven years ago)

All I can say is he redefined everything to me about musicianship means after seeing him live. Everything about the show sent me into a trance. I'd seen him on youtube vids and stuff, but you can't experience it from the album itself or from videos of live shows, you have to be there and feel his voice and instruments for real hit you. The energy that comes into these songs when played live is so intense. I didn't expect how uptempo and heavy hitting it all would be, i was heavy headbanging in certain songs. These songs sound way harder live than on the album, which has a real different own vibe. D had the crowd in his palm, he wasn't behind a piano he was out from center most of the time without guitar too. He had everyone up dancing, constantly engaged the crowd, huge stage presence. He was in sync with the band like you wouldn't believe. The band were so on it, every note was hit hard. Watching Sharkey, Pino, Jesse do their stuff was such a privilege these guys are a rare breed.

Arctic Noon Auk, Saturday, 28 February 2015 20:47 (eleven years ago)

The added guitars of Jesse and Sharkey in place of the horns and keys dominance of his previous bands takes his live shows to a whole new place and ratches up the energy. Combined with Pino on his bass...wow.

To get an idea of how the songs change up live watch 'shit, damn, motherfucker' live in the Montreux or Stockholm shows of 2000, it's like that, the song takes on a whole new crazy energy live that you'd not have guessed from the album version. He really is a master. Best live music I ever been to, quite embarrasingly easily.

Arctic Noon Auk, Saturday, 28 February 2015 20:52 (eleven years ago)

I don't know anything about D'Angelo myself--I gave "Lady" a 7.5 in a fanzine a billion years ago (checked)--but you might be interested in Greil Marcus's Black Messiah rave the other day:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/review/how-they-got-here

clemenza, Saturday, 28 February 2015 21:25 (eleven years ago)

youtube vids

hunangarage, Saturday, 28 February 2015 21:27 (eleven years ago)

there's no dearth of great live acts, but D'Angelo is on another plain at the moment. you really shouldn't miss him if you get a chance to see him. 1000 deaths was astonishing, like industrial funk-rock.

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Saturday, 28 February 2015 21:41 (eleven years ago)

I last saw him in the Summer of 2012, and that was a strong, fun show. But this was something else. The Vanguard are a sinfully great group, Kendra Foster is the perfect foil for D, Black Messiah contains righteous material for them to perform. And maybe it's just the fact that the album has finally made it out there, and he can shut the door on all the 'lost album', 'wasted artist' stories, that's set him on fire at the moment.

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Saturday, 28 February 2015 21:47 (eleven years ago)

i guess the vinyl is out in the wild....

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:14 (eleven years ago)

seeing him tonight, very excited but also slightly worried that he won't show up

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 21:42 (eleven years ago)

went to buy a copy at rough trade east tonight, they'd sold out

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 22:14 (eleven years ago)

obv being there is diff to hearing audio, but after hearing the sweden show he did this year, i do wish he had more material by now to play. the brown sugar stuff (or the title track at least, though maybe its also to do with his not-always-improved new arrangements of old songs) doesnt really stand up in the way the last two albums do.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:54 (eleven years ago)

basically, what i mean, is when he gets a few more albums under his belt, i think his shows would be even more awesome.

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 10:54 (eleven years ago)

anyone able to report on the sound of the vinyl? is it like a lot of modern major label vinyl releases where you're prob better off with the cd?

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 11:15 (eleven years ago)

it's a double vinyl so I'd hope the sound was at least okay!

IHeartMedia, the giant broadcaster formerly known as Clear Channel, (stevie), Thursday, 12 March 2015 11:16 (eleven years ago)

they should release a live ep from this tour. i remember there were plans to do a live lp for the last album, but it never came out. and i think he needs a boost - a live ep/album might help promote him right now (far as i know, the album's not selling esp well, despite all the raves).

StillAdvance, Thursday, 12 March 2015 11:26 (eleven years ago)


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