amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

Amanda Palmer should have ended the poem by chugging a beer and sliding down the emergency exit slide.

― about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:42 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ lol

as threadstarter, i cosign this transition

can someone explain this "jonathan chait" thing to me in 50 words or less?

Remember the 90s???

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xpost Asking for the unpaid labor of describing Chaitgate in 50 words or less is oppressive. LISTEN to what middle aged white journalists are telling you about THEIR EXPERIENCE and reflect.

i don't even have a single way "in" to what you call "chaitgate." it could be about nigeria, it could be about school funding, it could be about lena dunham. i have no idea. i just see his name popping up everywhere all of a sudden.

It's a political journalist complaining about SJWs and warning that Liberalism is being destroyed by leftist tactics.

what is SJWs?

i must live under a rock or something

have you heard of gamergate?

Apparently some people think social justice is a desirable thing.

this is what i get for not being on social media, i guess.

there are a bunch of ilx threads about this stuff tho

SJWs makes me wonder where Professor Griff stands on chaitgate.

well, Chait is Jewish

Griff writes books about the Illuminati now

i don't even have a single way "in" to what you call "chaitgate." it could be about nigeria, it could be about school funding, it could be about lena dunham. i have no idea. i just see his name popping up everywhere all of a sudden.

― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, January 30, 2015 2:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

next time you see his name pop up, click on it and it will bring you to a website with text describing chaitgate

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6487764/amanda-palmer-patreon-crowdfunding-campaign

1k deems you "clear"

So does 1k leave your bank account when she announces a podcast or do you get a bill and have to pay it before you FaceTime with her?

this is some newt gingrich level shit

"In a lengthy pitch on Patreon, which was co-created in 2013 by Pomplamoose's Jack Conte..."

Maybe the "random surprise" is a refund.

It's more likely an extra charge

I picture all the people who sign on for this like the mother in Requiem for a Dream watching her infomercial.

"I don't find it as inspiring to work for two years on a bunch of songs, knowing that i'm going to have to spend TONS of time raising funds for a record, a few more months (or years, in some cases) going through the record-biz 'album cycle'….. dude, it's boring. I mean, all respect to the artists who do it, and i may choose to do it with one project or another, but mostly, fuck it, i just want to MAKE STUFF AND PUT IT OUT. And get paid, and then keep going."

https://www.patreon.com/amandapalmer

the vanity and entitlement on display remains stunning, but she's been pretty straight-forward about selling cult of personality this whole time - she's just fine-tuning here.

there should be a 2k level where you pay her 2k every time she doesn't put something out.

she claims you can jump ship before the end of the month - so i guess if you realize before september 30th than you're about to pay $2,000 for a doodle chapbook and a covers EP you can bail.

though then you won't get to have her say she loves you

jesus why hasn't rob pollard gotten in on this - if he can find 50 IT specialists willing to pay 1,000 a month to be in his tape-of-the-month skype society...

https://twitter.com/amandapalmer/status/572899707514720257

why hasn't rob pollard gotten in on this

bee thousand (a month)

quality tweet

that is the grossest tweet

for fuck's sake people, I realize amanda palmer is persona non grata but this is fundamentally no different from everyone else's patreon/cashmusic/other subscription service

why did she put that image in my head?

I have a pal named Ben who once told me that when he saw Empire Strikes Back as a child, he was freaked out by the scene where Luke is stranded in the snow moaning "Ben...Ben!"

I imagine this offer would be similarly traumatizing.

not that you needed me to point it out Kat, but it's writ large and it's successful and that sets folks off

defend her crowdfunding nonsense all you want, but do you honestly approve of the way she licks that SHS-10?

it's not a con if you want to be fooled

i think i'm more frustrated by her fanbase if i think about it

well no i think i'm really more frustrated with the lefsetz/ted talk type bozos who held her up as the future of music making. now THERE was a con.

a+ tweet tho

Strike that. Reminds me of Prince. A point in her favor, imo.

never thought I'd be able to come up with a scenario where the other man is more upset at having his name called out than the husband is about it

...oorrrrr it could remind me of Gene Simmons. Back to point against.

should i go nearly $50,000 into debt for this?

i realize this is in essence a subscription service (and considering the claim that you won't be punished for a monthly cap of $10 on your subscription, a not ungenerous one) but can we still please laugh about an FAQ that ends with Q: "i love you. i just wanted to say that."

like if this is basically what everybody's doing on patreon can we please have a rolling CULT LEADERS ON PATREON thread

I know nothing about Patreon. Is this really "fundamentally no different from everyone else's patreon"?

Are there other people using Patreon like this to get a set fee every time they decides to make a completely-undefined "thing", any time they want?

like let's contrast the peak what you can give pomplamoose

Pledge $10.00 or more per video

200 patrons
The Producer Pack
-Learn how Jack produces and create your own remixes of our songs! Jack will be recording Ableton session overviews, as well as stems for you to experiment with!
+Everything listed above!

and palmer's

Pledge $1,000.00 or more per thing

3 patrons (Limited 2 of 5 left)
i'll call. we'll talk. we'll have dinner. all the things, pretty much. thank you (holy shit).