amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

actually the only part I didn't hate (although that could easily change as I continue to re-read & think about it)

it’s your right
to be angry.

it’s your right
to remove me.

it’s your right
to march forth and
with pride
de-tattoo me.

but it’s also my right
to embrace you, and tightly;
while you exercise loudly
your right
to not love me.

and as hate lingers thick
like a black cloud above you
pile ink upon ink

I’m still there
underneath.

i’m still there

and still love you.

You don't find that a messed up sentiment? "However much you renounce me, I will never leave you."

it's weirdly parental

Jonathan Chait @jonathanchait · Jan 28
@amandapalmer Wow.

The right to embrace without consent

Kind of a Nicksian sentiment

I wish a mod would take poor Robert Smith's name off of this thread ;_;

You know...

There, happier?

well done!

well played.

lol

haaaaa

love it!

"He's still there/underneath./he's still there/and still love you. (you could mod him off, i suppose, but he lingers./though I bet he'd prefer being subsumed by a comparable singer.)"

Kind of a Nicksian sentiment

yeah i was going to say

You don't find that a messed up sentiment? "However much you renounce me, I will never leave you."

"However much you renounce me, I will never leave you." = messed up but we've all been there (uhhh, right? haven't we? oknevermind)

"However much you renounce me, person I've never met or even heard of until I read a tweet that you didn't like me any more, I really love you as of nooowwww and will never leave you. PS who are you again? PPS do you love me again yet? PPPS why not? I totally love you, uh, whoever you are" = umm OK, I'm going now, bye

"i am going to be very melodramatic about how your gesture of criticism of what i have done means zero to me and will have no effect on my thinking or behavior"

which is a pretty powerful thing to say in a lot of contexts.

like when you get fired from your job

Amanda Palmer should have ended the poem by chugging a beer and sliding down the emergency exit slide.

did she also write a poem for the guys who shot up Charlie Hebdo or were they not cute enough?

Amanda Palmer should have ended the poem by chugging a beer and sliding down the emergency exit slide.

― about a dozen duck supporters (carl agatha), Thursday, January 29, 2015 6:42 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ lol

as threadstarter, i cosign this transition

can someone explain this "jonathan chait" thing to me in 50 words or less?

Remember the 90s???

http://hookingfoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/pcu.jpg 1000

xpost Asking for the unpaid labor of describing Chaitgate in 50 words or less is oppressive. LISTEN to what middle aged white journalists are telling you about THEIR EXPERIENCE and reflect.

i don't even have a single way "in" to what you call "chaitgate." it could be about nigeria, it could be about school funding, it could be about lena dunham. i have no idea. i just see his name popping up everywhere all of a sudden.

It's a political journalist complaining about SJWs and warning that Liberalism is being destroyed by leftist tactics.

what is SJWs?

i must live under a rock or something

have you heard of gamergate?

Apparently some people think social justice is a desirable thing.

this is what i get for not being on social media, i guess.

there are a bunch of ilx threads about this stuff tho

SJWs makes me wonder where Professor Griff stands on chaitgate.

well, Chait is Jewish

Griff writes books about the Illuminati now

i don't even have a single way "in" to what you call "chaitgate." it could be about nigeria, it could be about school funding, it could be about lena dunham. i have no idea. i just see his name popping up everywhere all of a sudden.

― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, January 30, 2015 2:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

next time you see his name pop up, click on it and it will bring you to a website with text describing chaitgate

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6487764/amanda-palmer-patreon-crowdfunding-campaign

1k deems you "clear"

So does 1k leave your bank account when she announces a podcast or do you get a bill and have to pay it before you FaceTime with her?

this is some newt gingrich level shit

"In a lengthy pitch on Patreon, which was co-created in 2013 by Pomplamoose's Jack Conte..."

Maybe the "random surprise" is a refund.

It's more likely an extra charge

I picture all the people who sign on for this like the mother in Requiem for a Dream watching her infomercial.

"I don't find it as inspiring to work for two years on a bunch of songs, knowing that i'm going to have to spend TONS of time raising funds for a record, a few more months (or years, in some cases) going through the record-biz 'album cycle'….. dude, it's boring. I mean, all respect to the artists who do it, and i may choose to do it with one project or another, but mostly, fuck it, i just want to MAKE STUFF AND PUT IT OUT. And get paid, and then keep going."

https://www.patreon.com/amandapalmer

the vanity and entitlement on display remains stunning, but she's been pretty straight-forward about selling cult of personality this whole time - she's just fine-tuning here.

there should be a 2k level where you pay her 2k every time she doesn't put something out.