Sly Stone S/D

^^^

I got that Stone Flower comp over the holidays, so great. Inner sleeve is just a giant photo of his Rhythm Ace.

wish he'd managed a whole album with little sister

stanga is my jam, and i would always play it when i dj'd regularly, back in the 00s

Just thinking about Sly's utterly wasted genius makes me sad. I'm glad he got the $$$, maybe he can use some of it to get healthy.

eh he had a pretty amazing run. I am sad his last few decades have been such a mess, seems like a lot of unhealthiness/unhappiness but what do I know

Well, George Clinton finally got off crack at 70, hopefully Sly can too.

George's matter-of-fact discussion of his love affair w crack in his autobio is p eye-opening

Don't know if anyone read Duff McKagan's bio, but he talks about Sly living in a pretty awful apartment close to the whole GN'R crew before they made it big. How this guy is still alive is beyond me.

I'd be surprised if Sly ever collects on this, but who knows. I'm also surprised that anybody ever tried to be his 'manager' post-1969. As for being homeless... that's been debunked. He just moves "when things get weird." Apparently.

he wasn't living out of his car?

homeless implies being so poor you can't afford a place to live, which was not really ever the case with Sly afaik

The Funkadelic 3cd set with Sly's track just came out, Christmas just gone.

link?

http://georgeclinton.com/first-ya-gotta-shake-the-gate/

I haven't heard it

this is the sly track (or at least one of them?) which is also upthread iirc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbPLMpgRc-o

It's awful, unworthy of the Funkadelic name IMO.

I didn't like it much at first either. But the song does grow on you. Likewise, the new Funkadelic record is as much of an unfocused hodgepodge as GC and the P-Funk All Stars' How Late Do U Have 2BB4 UR Absent?, but even at 3 discs it's marginally more consistent, and Sly provides some of the most interesting moments. It really is Funkadelic in name only, though.

the last Clinton album that I enjoyed was Dope Dogs, each album since has been a p random smorgasbord of stuff. which, to be fair, can also be said of a fair amount of his peak period output, just with better players/ideas. Is Sly on more than one track...?

I feel like George is only as good as his collaborators and he didn't get anybody good here. Way too much autotune (especially on Sly) and songs that give you a verse and not much more for about twice or three times as long as they need to be. It gets a little better on the 3rd disc but overall I don't expect to listen to it again.

the first disc on the 'funkadelic' is truly awful.

oh, it's a /new/ funkadelic album? no thanks. :(

SLY & THE FAMILY STONE—LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST OCTOBER 4th & 5th 1968 4CD BOX!

http://www.complex.com/music/2015/04/sly-and-the-family-stone-premiere

radical

Just hope it turns up as affordable this side of the Atlantic.
Not sure what the $60 I've heard it is likely to be is going to translate to when it appears. I think that price may be an early Amazon pre-order thing so not sure how accurate that is anyway.

I had a few live sets by them a couple of years ago but not sure if I still have any since they may have been on a crashed harddrive.

There is a Woodstock set in the Anniversary series for the festival isn't there but the band is seriously under represented in official live sets.

There used to be a couple of multi volume dvd sets doing the bootleg rounds from what I remember too. They had some really good stuff on too

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mH7194qDqI

that's a great set

I'm not super-excited about this tho tbh, not my favorite live period of theirs

I am curious to hear them do St. James Infirmary tho. that's an odd song for them to do.

mentioned in passing above, but say it again yall: I'm Just Like You: Sly's Stone Flower1969-70
---not perfect but so damn good.
Here's the trailer (too brief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCyHAhJgFA
and LITA link for samples of all tracks and more info
http://lightintheattic.net/releases/1451-i-m-just-like-you-sly-s-stone-flower-1969-70

More backstory: for the Higher! box. Pre-release sampler's gone, but it was afuckingmazing. I gotta get the box, although may have a little overlap with I'm Just Like You and other collections.

Damn, missed the link, sorry:
http://www.npr.org/2013/08/18/212367961/first-listen-sly-and-the-family-stone-highlights-from-higher

jsut saw this one for the 1st time a little while ago. so great

Thanks for posting -- I always wondered where this footage was from. It was used in Montgomery Burns' Jazz series on PBS to illustrate why Miles went electric. Wynton Marsalis and George Wein talked about how Miles saw Sly at the Newport Festival in 1969, saw the effect Sly had on the audience, and realized, in Wynton's words, "that he was an old man playing trumpet in a jazz band" and thus decided to go electric.

Except, when Miles played Newport in 1969 he's already recorded In A Silent Way; the band at Newport included Chick Corea and Dave Holland; and his set at Newport included material that would later turn up on Bitches Brew. But back to Sly, I always assumed this footage was from Newport, and wondered if the other Newport sets that year -- Miles, Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, James Brown, Sun Ra -- were filmed.

ha, i just watched part of that episode last night. yeah, needed some factchecking. miles was definitely influenced by sly, but as is the norm for the burns doc, it is more complex than all that.
don't think i've ever seen footage from newport 69, though that would be great. jazz (and other things) on a summer's day part II.

Yeah, I mean, the lineup...
http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmumkogZn41qh7tzmo1_1280.jpg

all of those festivals, it seems like it'd be a no-brainer to have a film crew on hand, but obviously that did not always happen.

Totally. Or sometimes, when there was a film crew, it took decades for the film to get finished/released (Message To Love, Soul Power).

the amougies film still hasn't seen official release.

holy shit @ that festival lineup

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Recorded-Live-At-Newport-In-New-York/release/1182883

On a related note I picked this ^^^^ up the other week and it is great and oh my god why has no one released the full length live sets from Stevie and Donny et al

Like, I learned a while back that all four nights at the Bitter End Curtis Mayfield played for Curtis Live were recorded, and I'm like, I want to hear all of that.

wait so miles was second on the bill at newport??

not sure if the poster is in order of importance... maybe though. did gary burton have some huge summer of 69 hit?
and yeah, good lord, why haven't they put out a complete curtis live box set, give me a break.

Burton was definitely big-time then, and Miles was still playing clubs in the US (he didn't hit the rock halls until months later), so it's not inconceivable that Burton would headline over Miles.

But I dunno how accurate those running orders are...if I was George Wein, I'd have Zeppelin close, rather than open, the final night.

I wonder if "Jeff Beck" means the classic Rod, Dunbar, Ron Wood lineup or something different?

at least rod was there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNIWaei3RI

eesh ^^ this smokes

Indeed it does!

There used to be a stream of a 1968 Detroit Jeff Beck show (with Mickey Waller and Nicky Hopkins!) on Wolfgang's Vault, but apparently it's gone. Supposedly, the Jeff Beck Group and the Who were the only two touring acts not to be blown off the Grande stage by the MC5.

Thanks to that amazing Newport Jazz Fest poster for my new display name

the bonkers incredible jazz lineup is insane on its own

then you have 69 zeppelin, mothers of invention, jeff beck group, and sly & the family stone...jimminy christmas talk about some live bands

AND an afternoon with James Brown