ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2014

plz retabulate accordingly

xposts to jjj: sure but like, what's your point? who are these boogeyman posters assembling disingenuous ballots in order to feel like special snowflakes? are there enough of them that our top 77 tracks are inaccurate or corrupted?

i want to vote too

1-50 [just a big pile young thug songs and clumps of pocket lint]

i've been waitin on you-oo-oo
i've been waitin on you

i strategically voted for the top 25 tracks in order

looks like my plan succeeded

i hacked the google doc and changed the results

who are these boogeyman posters assembling disingenuous ballots in order to feel like special snowflakes? are there enough of them that our top 77 tracks are inaccurate or corrupted?

― gr8080, Sunday, January 25, 2015 8:34 PM (25 minutes ago)

that's the thing. i just don't have a sense of us vs. them-ness about the eoy poll. like, maybe there are a bunch of pack rat voters out there who spend the year with their thumbs up their asses listening to neutral milk hotel or w/e, then frantically plough the nominations thread for special snowflake picks at the last minute. fuck if i know, but i suppose it's possible. i mean, there have to be at least a few, right? but i've never wasted any time thinking about it, and now that i have, i find i give even less of a shit than i didn't before.

I never said anything abt special snowflakes! I just think voting for stuff you heard for the first time 20 minutes ago in an eoy tracks poll is dumb. Unless you only heard 25 songs this year and one of them sucked so much that you can move one down a spot I guess. Also I find arguments from some of the most self-assured ILM posters in favor of that sorta stuff super hilarious, because obv those peeps aren't reimagining their ballots at the zero hour, cmon.

Oh and also wrt corrupted or innaccurate, I return to my point that this poll doesn't matter so who gives a shit? It's not like I am offended if the results are off, but in the same vein, people who want to consolidate opinion or make the results "right" are super weird to me I guess? Maybe this is all some new version of "I've never even heard the Beatles" or whatever, but if people who bother to vote in a music poll actually can't drum up a year long list of 25 songs they like out of the thousands of things they've heard without someone spoonfeeding them some tastemaker nonsense after the fact, they suck at listening to music imo.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UneS2Uwc6xw/maxresdefault.jpg

ehh, i transparently crammed certain rolling threads in the last couple months, but thats more cuz my job has made it so i had trouble keeping up w/ shit

it's weird right? The more you work in the candy shop, the less time you have to eat candy.

or at least it feels that way sometimes.

btw has no one talked about how the success of 'rather be' = apex of popularity of microhouse lol

i mean i guess they added a bunch of heavy strings to the background but how different really is it from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlfliR3l-2U

I haven't been following this tangent closely (or at all), but I find stuff during the nominations process every year that I'd consider voting for (and sometimes do). WHO FUCKING CARES! Two of my tracks votes were for tracks I'd found in just the couple weeks before submitting my ballot. I didn't find them through the nominations process, just through more organic internetting, but I've definitely voted for a tracks I've stumbled across in the noms process before. SO WHAT! This has probably been brought up fifty times already, but these polls really just serve the purpose of getting a lot of people on ilm to talk to each other in ways they don't the remainder of the year. I guess, yeah, it's partly about what places where and what gets 78'ed, but it's mostly the only time a bunch of people who listen to very different things come out of their respective corners and talk to each other. About music. On a board called I Love Music. So nobody cares what process or criteria you use to put together your precious ballots. AT ALL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLaOxbd37jc

Maybe you should be better at actually listening to music then.

Get fucked.

You seem mad

Sorry I criticized your cool poll, I'm sure you'd never do that oh wait

Did you even participate in the tracks rollout once all fucking week? If you did, I don't remember it. So now you jump in and tell people why the way they vote is stupid and how the results mean nothing if people choose to assemble their ballots in a way that's not satisfactory for you. And thanks for bringing up the metal poll thing I did YEARS ago and have apologized for A ZILLION TIMES. Cool move, dickface. Go pet your dog.

I never said anything abt special snowflakes! I just think voting for stuff you heard for the first time 20 minutes ago in an eoy tracks poll is dumb. Unless you only heard 25 songs this year and one of them sucked so much that you can move one down a spot I guess. Also I find arguments from some of the most self-assured ILM posters in favor of that sorta stuff super hilarious, because obv those peeps aren't reimagining their ballots at the zero hour, cmon.

love that you just completely ignored gr8080's response that he'd done exactly this

these polls really just serve the purpose of getting a lot of people on ilm to talk to each other in ways they don't the remainder of the year

Get fucked.

Yeah I can see that.

I mean, this poll is purposely the most loosely policed one there is with regards to what's eligible and what's not. There are no "that's not metal enough!" restrictions, or any other genre. All we ask is that it be released in the year we're polling, or have made significant impact in that year and that it not be a flat reissue with no new content. That's it. That's why the nominations list is so large. That's why so much music is covered. That's why we get a shit ton of voters. Maybe you get a truer artifact of any given year if you police the fuck out of it, but that's not what this is about at all.

Dinsdale, since I don't even know who the fuck you are, I'd be happy to keep it that way.

Did you even participate in the tracks rollout once all fucking week? If you did, I don't remember it. So now you jump in and tell people why the way they vote is stupid and how the results mean nothing if people choose to assemble their ballots in a way that's not satisfactory for you. And thanks for bringing up the metal poll thing I did YEARS ago and have apologized for A ZILLION TIMES. Cool move, dickface. Go pet your dog.

You just went full aggro and now it's my fault? Huh.

Maybe you should be better at actually listening to music then.

If this wasn't intended to be hostile, tell me how else I should've read it. I mean, what even the fuck

I was just making a stupid joke JF.

Here's the thing about what happened in that huge metal poll several years ago...I was led to believe it was made up of general population voters, and when all this obscuro shit keep coming up, I called bullshit. THEN I found out it was mostly just the metal crew participating and NOT the general population and I'd already showed my ass by then and I have apologized to Kerr many MANY times and he's accepted it and we've been cool ever since. However, when you choose to bring it up, it's like twisting a fucking knife in my eye and I don't even understand why you did it. So damn right I'm going to get defensive, because for Kerr and me it's old business.

Btw, I never policed the noms in the metal poll at all, and anybody who knows my definition of "metal" could probably guess that. I did quit running it because you were a huge dick to me because you couldn't possibly imagine that the shit you liked failed to place and accused me of rigging the poll so stuff I liked would place (which almost entirely didn't). Yer zillions of apologies must be on threads I never made it to. Have fun running your poll. Grow a thicker skin maybe.

Xpost

At least I got a display name out of all of this

save us, uh, never mind

I really don't have any interest in going back and reading people argue "THIS is how you make a ballot" vs. "THAT is how you make a ballot" because I don't care. How you make a ballot is your own business. Campaign. Don't campaign. Vote for your favorites. Vote strategically. Vote only for the things you heard the day before. It's the journey, maaaaaaaan, not the destination.

This isn't the place for this JF, and I'm not trying to throw some huge fit about this poll or its validity or whatever - given my "hey it's ILM who gives a fuck approach" that ought to be clear. People can vote however they want, I just thought it was/is weird to vote for something you've never heard before in an eoy tracks poll. When you rolled in and flipped your shit well duh, I'm going to react. Again. It's Ilx. No one else gives a shit so we should both relax.

Also I am totally and literally petting my dog, just fyi.

everyone here just needs to take a deep breath and cry and cry and cry until they fall asleep

That's the thing. Other people obviously take this way more seriously than I do. I make a ballot and I submit it. Then I post the results after seandalai gives them to me. The best part of it is seeing people react to what gets posted and what doesn't. If some people want to treat these polls as if we're establishing ILM canon, then I guess that's okay. I just don't get why anyone would care with such intensity about the right way to vote in one of these polls. It's just missing the point of them entirely.

For me, it's about hearing a bunch of music I wouldn't have otherwise heard (even though I listen to A LOT of music) and engaging with people I normally don't or even just reading everyone else engage. That's the best way to conduct a poll imo. The less you care about the results, the better.

I didnt fill my ballot, so i would quite easily have put in things that i heard in the nominations thread, if i had liked them! But they weren't very good, i think there was one thing in the nominations thread that was quite nice but ive no idea what it is now.

I think i nominated around 15 tracks but it was too many so i just voted for 5 tho in hindsight 7 or 8 is a cleaner number

Uh if you don't take this seriously why did you roll into this thread going all caps like 20 minutes ago? Not trying to kick things off again, but come on.

Did you read what I said or did you just see the caps and think I was being all angryman? I mainly just couldn't believe that such an incredibly dumb argument had extended this thread by two days. And then it kept going, so I should've just stayed out of it completely because apparently fighting about the right and wrong ways to vote is v e r y i m p o r t a n t.

Dude, go back and read your own posts

gr80 and seandalai had basically already echoed my thoughts on the issue anyway, so my presence here tonight is just overkill.

Well yeah

I haven't been following this tangent closely (or at all), but I find stuff during the nominations process every year that I'd consider voting for (and sometimes do). WHO FUCKING CARES! Two of my tracks votes were for tracks I'd found in just the couple weeks before submitting my ballot. I didn't find them through the nominations process, just through more organic internetting, but I've definitely voted for a tracks I've stumbled across in the noms process before. SO WHAT! This has probably been brought up fifty times already, but these polls really just serve the purpose of getting a lot of people on ilm to talk to each other in ways they don't the remainder of the year. I guess, yeah, it's partly about what places where and what gets 78'ed, but it's mostly the only time a bunch of people who listen to very different things come out of their respective corners and talk to each other. About music. On a board called I Love Music. So nobody cares what process or criteria you use to put together your precious ballots. AT ALL.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, January 26, 2015 1:05 AM (1 hour ago)

This was my first post tonight. You point out to me where I wasn't just upset about how dumb this argument had become. I didn't call out anybody by name. I didn't even tell anyone to stop. It was only when you got all up in my grill about how I listened to music the wrong way and then the metal poll history that I got heated. So no, I'm just going to shut up now and you guys can keep bashing heads over the stupidest topic ever.

Actually, your next post told him to get ducked after he joked with you, so...

Damn autpcorrect

I mean, I'm really sorry you still think I'm a dick for a thing that happened several years ago and which I consider to be the most embarrassing thing I've ever done in 12 years on ILM, and that probably colored the way you chose to engage with me tonight after that first post, but I'm not that guy and Kerr knows I'm not that guy and most people who vote in and then comment on these polls every year know I'm not that guy. I'm sorry. I was an assclown that day and I know it and so does everyone else. But let it go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

so

when's that albums rollout going to begin in the morning?