ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2014

yeah, that's cool. i fully support the havingness of principles.

I mean anybody can do this however they want, idgaf, but I feel like sometimes people want to help "deserving" songs win? Or something? That's so weird to me.

"2 On"'s grandmother is sick and i just thought it could use the pick-me-up tbh

Xp: ha I don't see it as principles though, I just think this is a poll on a who gives a shit messageboard, why try to consolidate opinion and get it right? I mean, we still traditionally include comparisons to p&j and pitchfork in the rankings (no offense poll runners, not saying anything abt your awesome poll and hard work). That seems pretty bizarre and self-important to me. I get why that existed when this was a bunch of music critics, but that's not what ILM is anymore, it's a bunch of bored Internet peeps talking about whatever. Why not just let it be that?

I feel like sometimes people want to help "deserving" songs win? Or something? That's so weird to me.

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten)

yeah, i get that. maybe i take the process less seriously than i should. like, if i had voted, my top two songs would probably have been slough feg's "laser enforcer" and audrey horne's "out of the city". and i would have been happily alone in that. less alone in voting for FKA twigs, d'angelo, future, owen pallett, migos, against me!, etc. i'd know all that going in. still don't see what's so wrong about being open to the odd last-minute addition.

here, check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dSt8Hg_J4Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBNxQWfx8gw

Xps: if I had realized that "2 on" was performed by someone's sick grandma I wouldn't have been so harsh abt it sorry nice tune deaf lady

this too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZwo3UJdcAU

\m/

Right but that's the whole point right? It's way more fun to see something show up that you are surprised to see and love and have been throwing down down for than something that gets a last minute groundswell - we pimp awesome shit at each other all year, why water that down by funneling the eoy poll down to consensus by circling the wagons during the polling period?

I dj'd between sets at a Slough Feg show, what has Taylor Swift ever done for me? Well guess what Tay Tay you're probably never gonna here how awesome Nazareth's Cibber of "Ballad of Hollis Brown" is deal with it

lol, now i wanna post entombed's "hollis brown". restraint.

I can see the point of strategic voting as in 'if I have a few tracks/albums that are pretty much equal in my appreciation I might vote for the one that is more likely to place' but I don't get not voting for favorites because they're not likely to place. I want to see the music that people like that is not the music everyone and their mother will list. I have death metal on my ballot. I have Artificial Brain on my ballot. Maybe if the people who loved that kind of music voted for it it would place.

And even if it doesn't place, by putting it on your ballot maybe someone will see it and check it out and fall in love with it, which is more important IMO than whether it places or not.

the idea of a "top 25 tracks of the year set in stone that you must not betray" is as odd an idea as any tbh. on any given day my ballot's 50% different and being overcome by rush-of-blood enthusiasm if you hear something on the noms list that blows your mind seems as good a way to determine it as any other. also dinsdale otm about strategic voting (def more likely to vote for something i know won't place - felt no need to vote for wither "two weeks" or "2 on") and also that the point, such as it is, is to share your love for the music that means a lot to you - whether this happens via the noms list or your ballot or the poll itself. and the lobbying/cheerleading for your personal faves to make it are because tracks that do make the 77 just get more ears on them.

Cant get my head around the idea of strategic voting. I didnt want anything either in or out of the list, thought it should be whatever it was going to be

re: voting for stuff at the last minute because of the noms, there's nothing wrong with that but I think what would be super super awesome is if the noms didn't start at the end of the year but instead they would start right now. Ideally there would be rolling charts to go along with it as people rate the things they listen to. Basically RateYourMusic but limited to ILX. So no more not voting for stuff because it's not gonna place, not more having to cut that because you can only vote for 25 etc. and probably a cool way to highlight/discover niche stuff that would otherwise be overlooked. It's just too bad RYM doesn't let you create a group of users and limit charts to said group otherwise that could be easily done. Hell a that's not even particularly complicated to code but I doubt I'll have the time to do it myself.

Actually I think this can be done via RYM's friends feature. It would take one neutral/inactive account to act as master who would add all ILXors participants as friends, then we'd just have to use the 'as rated by my friends' option in the charts form.

Eh this is still going, save us JF etc etc. The Pitchfork/P+J placings are just part of the theatre for me, nobody really believes that our list has a comparable (or any) influence in the outside world but it can be entertaining to pretend for a week that it does. Likewise hoping for a deserving winner and the other horserace aspects - if something I like is in the frame I'll cheer it on but it has zero impact on how I vote.

do people really think that these results have been gamed and are no longer an accurate representation of stuff liked by people on this board in 2014? cause I'm looking at the list now and uhhhhh

I do share my list outside of here. Wouldn't tactically vote per se but would maybe say there's a conscious urge to make the 25 representative of the scope of yr listening rather than have 12 songs from 2 adored albums you've caned all year.

Weirdest thing about this discussion is ppl sneering at & grilling contendo as to why he was voting for consensus picks when he didn't even submit a ballot (yeah I know he made a semi-aggro comment to flopson about wizards but still)

Anyways, voter participation has been growing somewhat steadily for the past few years, and I kinda feel like our special snowflake status is a big part of the reason why

clearly i didn't vote with my heart & i'm just a mastermind here to make ILX look cooler

http://cs313919.vk.me/v313919803/569e/17g4bYrdza8.jpg

Does the dreaded metal poll even have this handwringing?
Things are bad when the metal fans come out looking better than you.

lotta handwringing when swans place iirc

Does the dreaded metal poll even have this handwringing?
Things are bad when the metal fans come out looking better than you.

Oh the many ways I lol at u right now

Sund4r otm. Listening thru the noms is crucial to discovering stuff I will like. It made for a really fun couple of weeks. It turned my ballot from a parochial affair to a truer reflection of what I would have liked given the chance to hear everything. I believe many people feel the same way. Flopson your argument is ludicrous imo #notsorry

I believe that flopson is in fact projecting his subconscious dissatisfaction at NOT giving the noms a thorough airing, tbh

Maybe the nominations list is the artifact of true archival value that emerges from EOY and the top 77 is just the summary of the most important points.

Few of us (forks aside) have the fortitude to listen to every nomination but every year I do discover music that - whether or not it goes on my ballot - sticks with me, by listening to the noms list on shuffle.

maybe the noms are... the true results

otm

next time we should forego the countdown & just have a spotify playlist and an argument

exactly xxp

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That's a lot of time and energy to spend on not-the-actual-results

it's alright they were the actual results really

everyone's an actual results

the noms are the long list and the top 77 are the short list but both represent ILM's 2014

― gr8080, Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:27 AM Bookmark

^^gr80 otm everybody else stfu

wow very rude what about my opinions

permaban tactical voters

allright, next year, all scumpunk, black n roll and deathmetal. no exceptions. and petite meller.

I suspect that the albums roll-out will be a lot more interesting, all around.

There might be more "indie" so lets see how that plays out with the reactions

minimum 4 young thug mixtapes i'm calling it now

75 young thug mixtapes + taylor swift + d'angelo @ #1

too much swift

The Reverend
Posted: January 25, 2015 at 12:27:15 PM
the noms are the long list and the top 77 are the short list but both represent ILM's 2014

― gr8080, Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:27 AM Bookmark

^^gr80 otm everybody else stfu

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the chances of either of you throwing some shit you heard thanks to the eoy nom list for the first time 3 weeks ago in your top tracks ballot is about 0% so uh maybe I won't.

you cool and all, jj, but god, the hostility to the idea that someone might (god forbid) hear a great song !at the end of the year!, !thanks to someone else! is just fucking bizarre

but maybe that's the difference between you serious voterz and the rest of us scrubs out here in tv land...

i put exactly one track and one album on my ballot that i would not have otherwise heard were it not for the nominations thread and playlist:

http://youtu.be/FvDRcYgHy8A

http://verdant-realm-botanist.bandcamp.com/album/vi-flora

not sure if that makes any difference at all but

that track placed #129 and whatever I had ~spent all year with~ that would have been on my ballot instead would have likely had the same showing

Right, (and honestly, didn't mean to drag you into this gr8080 it just felt weird to single rev out) it seems so weird to me that a bunch of the super aggro supporters of the "vote for things you hear at the last minute because other people push them on you" in this thread are literally the least likely people to actually do that in practice.