ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2014

see it's a classic, irrefutable

if i ever go to vancouver i'm going to go to that park and have someone take a B&W photo of me in the exact pose as the album cover

needle in your eye is still the best thing they ever did

a 2000-2014 poll is only acceptable if we can vote for 100 albums and 100 tracks apiece

Also acceptable only if we are allowed to vote for a song or album multiple times

Point of order: Eat It Up and Lay Wit It: Hip Hop, Cunnilingus and Morality in Entertainment

only acceptable is someone reminds me what songs i like

plan would be to do it like sometime this summer right?

― call all destroyer, Friday, January 23, 2015 2:42 PM

Yeah, like August/September.

joe that young thug song u like is called "Treasure"

"Chinatown"
"Blue Eyes"
"Savage Night at the Opera"
"Suicide Demo for Kara Walker"
"Poor in Love"
"Kaputt"
"Downtown"
"Song for America"
"Bay of Pigs (Detail)"

That article's almost two years old xp

man idk if i could handle making an ordered ballot longer than like 40 entries

a 2000-2014 poll is only acceptable if we can vote for 100 albums and 100 tracks apiece

― example (crüt), Friday, January 23, 2015 2:47 PM

For sure, expanded ballots would be essential. I think the decade polls all had 100-entry ballots (if not, they had at least 50).

joe that young thug song u like is called "Treasure"

― gr8080, Friday, January 23, 2015 2:49 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thank you

I was thinking about this yesterday. Would a 2010-14 poll really be all that fun? At this point, I think it'd be more fun to poll the years spanning the life of ilx up to now. 2001-2014, because we could rewrite A LOT of history that way (which might be a bad thing, but it also might not be).

much better than a half decade poll. Not a fan of those.
Dont think there would be any interest in a 2000-2015 metal poll so go for it jf

i think it'd be fun to re-evaluate my own personal picks from the 00s now that there's more distance, so i'm in favor of this poll happening

limit on 2 hot chip jokes per person

i'm all for unlimited kaputt jokes as a coping mechanism for those who haven't come to terms w/the album yet

What's often forgotten in these roll outs is that the people voting for these tracks have had time to let them grow on them.

There are enough people who say "I discovered this song during nominations and voted it high on my ballot" that I think this is a fundamental misreading of what this poll has become, which is less a snapshot of what music ILX posters liked over the past year and more an attempt to curate our special snowflake status by committee.

well.... I found a lot of songs on the nominations list that were better than songs I heard last year, what was I supposed to do?

an honest snapshot of music I was bumping last year would have The Cars at #1

Best Friend's Girl would certainly have been a shock winner.

Was there already a 2000-2009 poll? I seem to recall a 2005-2009 one at some point. Don't know if there was a 2000-2004 poll either.

http://skotrok.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-greatest-albums-of-2013.html?m=1

an honest snapshot of music I was bumping last year would have The Cars at #1

― example (crüt), Friday, January 23, 2015 2:17 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Best Friend's Girl would certainly have been a shock winner.

― Johnny Fever, Friday, January 23, 2015 2:18 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd be cool with this result any year

its in the bag, folks

― gr8080, Friday, January 23, 2015 2:29 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Naahhh Black Messiah came down and pre-emptively saved ILX from tearing itself apart in the great Destroyer-DDM wars...

Was there already a 2000-2009 poll? I seem to recall a 2005-2009 one at some point. Don't know if there was a 2000-2004 poll either.

ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2000-2004: TRACKS

ILM Top 100 2005-2009: ALBUMS
ILM Top 100 2005-2009: TRACKS

What's often forgotten in these roll outs is that the people voting for these tracks have had time to let them grow on them.

There are enough people who say "I discovered this song during nominations and voted it high on my ballot" that I think this is a fundamental misreading of what this poll has become, which is less a snapshot of what music ILX posters liked over the past year and more an attempt to curate our special snowflake status by committee.

― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Friday, January 23, 2015 3:12 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh i think it's nice that some people are open minded enough to listen to others' nominations. because i'm not! i usually do my year end lists well before the noms start here and just set my stuff in stone and don't think about changing it.

When did ILM officially begin? Was it 2000 or 2001? (I didn't get here until 2002, and didn't start participating with any regularity until 2003.)

2000.

2000:

I Confess : What sucks most about your musical tastes and attitudes ?

Ahh, so the poll would cover 2000-2014 then.

that was not actually started in 2000 - that was due to a glitch that changed the date of posts

also lol @ me

oh guys i should mention trick daddy has a new butt eating club he's been promoting
hope that helps

xp that's a shame, i liked believing "too many white people" was the inaugural ilm post

ILM was started in August 2000.

i mean i wish i could claim FIRST RESPONSE HALL OF FAME but i didn't start posting till 2002 xp

also i hate myself

I remember being linked to an ilm post in October 2000 i think. It was a friend who was just back to uni which makes me think october. All I remember it was by that fellow from allmusic (Ned)

who made the ilm thread not who linked me here

realising that by now I'm old ILX is weird

First ILM threads iirc:
Indie Rock: What's Going On?
Songs About Quitting Your Job?

More stats geekery. Previous placements:

FKA Twigs (1): Water Me (#49, 2013)

Taylor Swift (7): You Belong With Me (#1, 2009); Love Story (#21, 2009); I Knew You Were Trouble (#19, 2012); We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together (#29, 2012); Back to December (#47, 2010); Mine (#60, 2010); Mean (#73, 2010)

Future (2): Turn on the Lights (#10, 2012); Same Damn Time (#69, 2012)

Caribou (3): Melody Day (#18, 2007); Sun (#36, 2010), Odessa (#44, 2010)

Charli XCX (1): Superlove (#44, 2013)

T.I. (4): Rubberband Man (#37, 2004) What You Know (#2, 2006); Live Your Life (#22, 2008); No Matter What (#41, 2008)

Jessie Ware (4): 110% (#24, 2012); Wildest Moments (#55, 2012); Running (#56, 2012); Imagine It Was Us (#6, 2013)

Röyksopp & Robyn (1): The Girl and the Robot (#50, 2009)

Guru (1): Lapaz Toyota (#64, 2012)

Javiera Mena (3): Hasta la Verdad (#63, 2010); Luz de Piedra de Luna (#73, 2012); Espada (#55, 2013)

Katy B (4): Katy on a Mission (#38, 2010); Broken Record (#26, 2011); Easy Please Me (#47, 2011); Aaliyah (#4, 2012)

Todd Terje (3): Snooze 4 Love (#5, 2011); Inspector Norse (#1 2012); Strandbar (#14, 2013)

Katy Perry (2): Hot N Cold (#45, 2008); Teenage Dream (#16, 2010)

Spoon (3): I Turn My Camera On (#34, 2005); You Got Yr Cherry Bomb (#22, 2007); The Underdog (#36, 2007)

Migos (1): Versace (#39, 2012)

Haim (5): Don't Save Me (#47, 2012); Forever (#59, 2012); Falling (#10, 2013); The Wire (#26, 2013); Days Are Gone (#75, 2013)

Nicki Minaj (5): Roman's Revenge (#57, 2010); Super Bass (#3, 2011); Stupid Hoe (#42, 2012); Starships (#67, 2012); Beez in the Trap (#67, 2012)

Duke Dumont (1): Need U (100%) (#7, 2013)

St. Vincent (1): Surgeon (#61, 2011)

Shakira (1): She Wolf (#8, 2009)

Usher (2): Yeah! (#4, 2004); Climax (#5, 2012)

King (1): In the Meantime (#35, 2013)

Tune-Yards (1): Bizness (#74, 2011)

nice!

I can't believe California Gurls didn't make the cut!

an indie rock record i really loved from last year was lose by cymbals eat guitars

Also I feel weird saying 'poppy' when actually it is mostly hip-hop/r&b/dance, and a lot of the placers weren't nec. in the charts over here.

OTM here too. Afaict, "Blank Space" and "Rather Be" were the only songs in the top 10 that went top 40 in Canada. I hear pop radio all the time and work with kids part-time and have never heard of most of these things.

yes, they are good!

xp re: Cymbals Eat Guitars

it's just that the 'indie' music that tends to place in these things is usually pretty boring, safe stuff that seems to be placing for no reason other than the fact that lots of other magazines have put it on their eoy lists -- it's hard to even locate where the enthusiasm for it on ilm is even coming from. like that war on drugs song had virtually no one explaining why they actually liked it when it showed up.

― dyl, Friday, January 23, 2015 10:44 AM (57 seconds ago)

Anyone could easily say it's just that the 'pop' music that tends to place in these things is usually pretty boring, safe stuff that seems to be placing for no reason other than the fact that lots of other magazines have put it on their covers' and what not. It would be wrong, obviously. Just as it is wrong for The War on Drugs. It's fine to dislike music, but making assumptions why some users like this and that, for any genre, it's NAGL.

― Van Horn Street, Friday, January 23, 2015 11:19 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

while i should def retract the quoted part i said earlier since it's oversimplified and arrogant to assume that is the main determinant of ppl's enjoyment of that music, i don't think your comparison is completely valid either. for the most part the biggest, most media-saturating mainstream pop music DOESN'T place or even come close to it here -- we have minor successes by relative no-names like becky g doing far better than "all about that bass" and "happy". occasionally it all lines up and we have the whole forum stanning for "call me maybe" but more often we end up snubbing the biggest hits like e.g. "rolling in the deep" and "thrift shop". meanwhile the most hyped mainstream indie songs (#1 placers on p4k, p&j etc.) are nearly without exception guaranteed a placement here even when it remains an utter mystery who here is actually voting for it.

(somewhat rambly/not-totally-related tangent: i know some ppl would be tempted to surmise that the reason for the difference is that the pop charts are all about the hype-cycle whereas the tastemakers mags/sites aren't, but i don't buy that at all, especially in recent years. lead singles from anticipated albums (usually coming out of labels w/ a strong reputation) are almost guaranteed to be named best new music on p4k immediately upon premiering [the hottest take possible], and well over 90% of songs named best new music end up on their year-end list -- evidently their increasingly non-trivial role in constructing the year-end 'canon' is far from independent of the same sorts of machinations that drive the pop charts, the only difference arguably being that the hype is egged on by different, smaller but usually still famous record labels. this is why i like seeing that e.g. "monument" from the royksopp/robyn project did far better here than the immediately-lauded but kinda boring "do it again" [which was ofc the consensus pick come year-end at p4k and p&j, whereas "monument" was barely acknowledged]. but it'd be even nicer if the biggest winners in p4k/rockcritland didn't automatically have a place reserved for them in our poll, the same way we don't reserve places for the biggest mainstream pop music just b/c we're comparatively enthusiastic about mainstream pop.)

Dyl so otm. The biggest pop hits of this year were mostly resoundingly rejected. Pop can have struggle artists and weird esoterica too yknow.

Also the point about whoever voted for the shit indie not defending it. Almost every song had detractors, often within the same scare-quotes voting bloc. If you don't rep for what you love then yes it'll look like everyone's dragging it.