i also hear her "i said i've been there too a few times" not as a comment on how often she's had her heart broken, as seems to be the consensus, but how she plays the same game as he does.
This is one of my favourite moments on the album and one that bears a certain amount of close reading. It's ambiguous because it's not clear whether the meet-up is during a period where they're officially on or off, i.e. when the dude is "out and about with some other girl" is that a problem in itself or only because he's here, now, with the lights off and taking off his clothes?
So it's either the case that your take is spot on lex or alternatively you can read it as her copping to having been fixated on an ex while dating someone new (this situation crops up again later on the album but I can't remember where offhand).
People who think this song has bad lyrics aren't paying attention: I think this is in fact one of her best written songs as well as one of her best sounding.
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link
tinashe - the way get ratchet go dumb then go mo dumb then we can keep it lit let's roll rolled off her tongue was maybe the finest enunciation in pop last year, and the moment when i first heard it last january and the sean paul interpolation dropped felt so triumphant - such utter confidence to use it at that exact moment. its placing at #1 feels very "summation of 2014" in that i'm unsurprised it got only one #1 vote: at no point in the year did it ever announce itself as The Song, but it encapsulated so many great things very neatly and honestly i can't think of anything better that deserved to be there. (so it makes sense that the dj q remix voters pushed it over the top.) i threw my vote to her album, though.
Cosign this in its entirety, and that line really pushed "2 On" over the top for me.
Water Me placed last year
― monster_xero, Thursday, 22 January 2015 21:59 (nine years ago) link
I agree that Tinashe works as a "what if Ciara hadn't become boring and terrible after '1 2 Step'" thought experiment
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link
Lee Ann Womack - Send It On Down
great song
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My #1. Apparently I was the only one to vote for her :\ Hoping she has more success on the Albums list.
Great job to those who did all the tabulation, pictures, etc!
Biggest ah-ha's were Vermillion, Hideaway, German Whip, Babylon System, and U-Huh.
Biggest WTFs were that God awful Richard Dawson track, the proliferation of Young Thug, and 2 On being the clear consensus (I like this song, but was surprised at the gap between it and #2).
Biggest stiff was Vince Staples, but glad "Hands Up" was the consensus among those who voted for him.
― Indexed, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link
hoped nigeria & ghana would've placed more tracks.
― ||||||||, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
hoped Jamaica would place a single track in the last three years
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:03 (nine years ago) link
yeah after a few embarrassing years in a row this is a really solid top 3
― k3vin k., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i hear it as a problem in any context. the initial accusation - "i heard that you've been out and about with some other girl" - that's pure hurt accusation, she's wounded there. and then the next line when she captures exactly the kind of excuse he'd use and its very effective charm - "what you've heard is true but i...can't stop thinking 'bout you & i" - and how he uses tone and timing and words to manipulate her into falling for him (again) despite her hurt. and so "i've been there too a few times" could be that she's also been out and about with some other boys, but mostly because that's her territory. game recognise game.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link
Really thought Kitty - BRB would make it
― abcfsk, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
hoped Jamaica would place a single track in the last three years― rob, Thursday, January 22, 2015 10:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bou yah (vampire teeth) is an egregious omission.
― ||||||||, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
also yeesh, looking at the full list, despite the #1, the r&b vote really died. i don't really count fka twigs as r&b and that pretty much leaves tinashe, king, usher, jessie ware and d'angelo (the last two are sort of outliers anyway). it's not like there weren't great r&b singles in 2014...
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link
kelis not placing is a surprise
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
to me
yeah they got cut off my ballot bc they weren't as good as all the young thug features
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link
i don't think i hear it as a problem in any context.
oh I agree - I just meant that it's an exchange that is both ambiguous and yet feels emotionally true regardless of how you interpret it.
― Tim F, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
The Anybody Wanna Buy a Heart? singles will probably be old and uncool by this time next year, so I was really disappointed Love 'Em All made such a poor showing.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link
Popcaan suffered from vote splitting it seems
― danzig, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
xpnot really complaining. there's been no crossover tracks or even consensus among the board's tiny number of dancehall partisans for years. Spice not appearing is disappointing as I would think a wider range of posters would like her
popcaan should show up in the albums poll next week, which is cool and an unexpected turn for the genre
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, Gr80! My favourite discovery of the day, btw, turns out to be Bobby Shmurda! Such roiling menace!
― my shoes are deception (imago), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
well i guess this should be the last EOY ilm poll ever, it was a good run
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link
Terrible verses on "2 On" aside, I thought Schoolboy would at least place a track. "Man of the Year" was in my top ten (and "Collard Greens" the only other bearable track on that record).
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
pumped for the 2010-2014 poll this summer
― prolego, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Thursday, January 22, 2015 5:17 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I don't get this
― rob, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Bobby Shmurda! Such roiling menace!― my shoes are deception (imago)
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
Alfred completely wrong re: Schoolboy Q, that album was great
― Let me help you out Charlie XCX fan (DJP), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Thank you gr80 (and anyone else involved in this joyous occasion) for a gripping first poll experience! Sad to have been work-bound for 90% of the roll-out, but next time I'm booking it off!
― tangenttangent, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Whaaaa
Xxp
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
forks you should throw your computer in a river for posting a story from hoodstarmagazine.com that "cites" an obvious photoshop of a fox news broadcast
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link
So this is what FKA Twigs sounds like. I actually enjoy this.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
I'm confused. As a newb, is Shmurda really in critical condition or no? Care for the kid now since this poll :-/
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
https://hoodstarmagazine.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/bobby-shmurda-fighting-for-his-life-after-prison-fight.jpg?w=840
forks, answer for this
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
http://www.vibe.com/article/bobby-shmurda-brooklyn-gun-case-dropped
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link
Jesus, Forks, you have me a right scare there
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link
mea culpa on a bad referral there; no corroboration and a less than sparkling URL; I am stocking spotify listsstill a deeply fucked up story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/12/19/hip-hops-bobby-shmurda-charged-in-murder-drug-trafficking-sting/
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link
i assume the jury will accept wapo or must all links pass the stringent gawker sniff test
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
forks i'm sorry that you thought a story from hoodstarmagazine.com was real but you have no one to blame but yourself
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
i'm sorry this is a priority offense for you! clearly too much time spent in the sewers of the internet dredging for dropped wedding rings and dickpics
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
this is bobby shmurda's face after being put in intensive care and also my face after reading your posts about bobby shmurda being put into intensive care
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
i think you have definitely moved into "u mad" territory
― Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
sry i did not vote for stiches (or at all) after u bugged me on chat
― lag∞n, Thursday, January 22, 2015 3:11 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― deej loaf (D-40), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:36 (nine years ago) link
This one should have placed at leasthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2OfQHfqDw
― xelab, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
YES STATS ZONE: ILM 2014 Tracks Poll Thread of Ballots, Statistics and Meditation is good folks. You can see your top neighbours and the full results and other awesome stats
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
Brilliant run out, great list! Thanks hugely!
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:45 (nine years ago) link
That Edward album is fantastic, been listening to that as much as anything since the noms thread.
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link
wow #pray4shmurda illuminati finally got him
― lag∞n, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Top 2 tracks basically the only ones not mired in controversy in this thread.
― abcfsk, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
lol i just noticed that iggy azalea came...
=194th.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:53 (nine years ago) link
i have mired them in controversy for not featuring young thug, huge oversight, unacceptable
― lag∞n, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:54 (nine years ago) link
i also like that the system rewards enthusiasm rather than bottom-of-ballot consensus (contra what some seem to think). nicki minaj was #77 with 5 votes, presumably all high; whereas 6 votes, presumably all low, only got route 94 to #264.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 22 January 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link