modern country production is so unobjectionable to me, it's just not the point and in the country i love it does a great job of not being the point. cannot even tell what's meant to be offensive about something that's hardly front and centre
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:22 (eleven years ago)
btw "Quarterback" made my P&J list, although initially I had problems with Isabella's vocal inadequacies. Then I let them help the song: it made what she described more poignant because it could happen to any girl of modest talents.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:22 (eleven years ago)
monotony: What is "Emotions"? Also I expect a couple songs I voted for not on your list.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:23 (eleven years ago)
communicating harrowing and resonant things through gloss= subtlety and artistry imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:24 (eleven years ago)
xp it's the katy b song everyone was stanning for when her album came out. maybe i'm overestimating its popularity but ppl seemed to be way more into it than "crying for no reason" which placed
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:24 (eleven years ago)
I'd add Rather Be to the last of predictions Monotony. Think it's going to be very high.
― Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:25 (eleven years ago)
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson)
the Scritti Politti Dictum
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:25 (eleven years ago)
Move That Dope
listening to this in 2015 kinda revealing that it is actually the longest song ever made
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:25 (eleven years ago)
it's always surprising to me when people still think saying one song in particular out of a genre they pay no attention to sounds just like the rest of the genre they pay no attention to is a worthwhile opinion to state out loud (re: reactions to quarterback.)
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
great run today
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:25 PM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark
that "move that dope" made publication year end lists shows how out of ideas most people are
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:25 PM (0 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wld be so much cooler w/o all the guest verses too
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
there's a cottage industry in declaring Nashville has gone off the rails at least since Willie moved back to Texas, if not before.
― campreverb, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
i def don't think that vic mensa single will place, saw v little ilx enthusiasm for it and it wasn't that big a hit to pick up that many casual votes
doubt a katy b album track will place - i don't recall that track being especially popular, either
vaguely wondering about "german whip" and "that's not me"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:26 (eleven years ago)
also, HIDEAWAY
i'm SURE "smoke, drink, break up" was more popular than just a personal favourite this year but iirc i was the sole p&j voter
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:28 (eleven years ago)
as a frequenter of techno/house threads watching saer become a breakout hit here is totally fascinating, never knew the guy had so many opinions outside of extremely tasteful deep tech house
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:28 (eleven years ago)
naw, "Move That Dope" is great. Amazing beat, fun verses, even Pusha's T's stupid terrible puns. If you don't want to SPEND THAT MONEY WITH CAAAASIIIIINO you can get out imo.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:29 (eleven years ago)
Like R&B, Country is mostly a demographic signifier after 1990, as the music gets farther away from what made it tick way back when.
However, with R&B we get more moves to reclaim a kind of core vitality (as opposed to moving on, which is fine in itself - lots of core vitality available by abandoning the models too!).
But judging from the country songs I hear in the local feedstore (yes there's a local feedstore, and I hear country music there), it all seems to be written by committee, a lot of vague nods to "America" and weird character studies that drop a certain number of "classic rock" references and a certain number of certified "country" references. The whole pop country genre has had a tedious identity crisis forever --- maybe it reflects a tedious identity crisis at large too.
This is not meant as a condemnation of anybody in particular, I believe in Miranda Lambert and everything.
― Vic Perry, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:29 (eleven years ago)
I'm far far behind on this thread now but wanted to just otm this post
I might have skimmed past some angst, but feel like the anti-indie meltdown stuff is being exaggerated pretty hard this year. i mean there hasn't been much to react to, but i'm not seeing the wailing and gnashing of teeth people keep referring to
― rob, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:53 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess fans of shite indie are just really attached to their persecution complexes eh :-D
― o.m.g. lol @ hurt butt (wins), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:29 (eleven years ago)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:29 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
casino can stay but thats as much as ill allow
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:30 (eleven years ago)
well sure but that's like drawing generalizations about R&B by hearing Chris Brown and Jason Derulo a lot.
xxpost
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:30 (eleven years ago)
Does 'Vermillion' have a chance to make it to the Top 20? There's often been plenty of overlap between here and TSJ, but on the other hand it didn't really get a lot of exposure on here.
And what about something from St. Vincent?
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:31 (eleven years ago)
modern country production is so unobjectionable to me, it's just not the point and in the country i love it does a great job of not being the point.
broadly agree with this, i couldnt really find a way in to the quarterback record but on the other hand i like the fact production can take a back seat, and it was such a relief to hear something that did that after all the horrible sounding productions in the other ones
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:32 (eleven years ago)
Think St Vincent is a defo top 10 for albums, but tracks? Don't think so
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:33 (eleven years ago)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:34 (eleven years ago)
― i'm tellin you it was kenard (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, January 21, 2015 4:34 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It's pretty good but I never considered voting for it anywhere.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:35 (eleven years ago)
La Roux? German Whip?
― danzig, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:36 (eleven years ago)
drawing generalizations about a genre from a single track just seems a pointless thing to do, most of the records today have been horrible but that has no bearing on other records, even by the same artist, they might be good who knows!
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:37 (eleven years ago)
so much good country music out there right now tbh. esp on the ladies' side. there are a few legends or soon-to-be-legends operating at peak power right now.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:37 (eleven years ago)
saer otm
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:37 (eleven years ago)
"Move That Dope" also totally notable for being the first big rap song in a long time to use one of those huge, deep Masta Ace jeep beat basslines that are like my favorite thing ever. (Mike Will Made It also used this to great effect on "No Flex Zone" too.)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:38 (eleven years ago)
Tonight may be the night when I put together my long-put-off screed about why what Nashville calls country music now is terrible, and why it's not like arguments of the past, but I'm still at work right now.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:38 (eleven years ago)
Hasn't Nashville been pilfering rock styles of 20 years ago for ages?
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:39 (eleven years ago)
I don't like Billy Sherrill productions at all, as a result I can only abstractly appreciate "He Stopped Loving Her Today" and some other obvious classics.
― Vic Perry, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:40 (eleven years ago)
"move that dope" is great but i never considered voting for it, and would be surprised if it was to come - if any future gets in it'd be "i be u" surely? slightly surprised there wasn't goodwill residue for a past ilm fave
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:40 (eleven years ago)
The influence of Fleetwood Mac on country radio after 1990 is sort of amazing....unless you take the demographic seriously, and songs like "She's Gone Country" that work like user's guides. Hey, alienated from today's weird rock scene? Go country! It sounds just like the stuff you liked in the 70s, well, at least the soft rock stuff!
― Vic Perry, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:42 (eleven years ago)
i guess one surprising takeaway post-"quarterback" showing up is that while i knew some people paid less attention to lyrics than i do, i didn't know some people were averse to paying them any attention at all, even in a genre where songwriting and storytelling take precedence over production by a long way
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:43 (eleven years ago)
Just called "Gone Country", title mistake reveals my level of involvement.
― Vic Perry, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:43 (eleven years ago)
honest should have been the future track to place highly but no one even nominated it
― flopson, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:43 (eleven years ago)
T.I. feat. Young Thug – "About the Money" – Yeah, see, this is some Thug I can use, in long enough to get things all weird, but out before the charm wears off. T.I. sounding great, too. Love it.
Owen Pallett – "The Riverbed" – Lazer guided and covering ground, I guess this is everyone's favorite OP track. I can see why, but for me, it doesn't cut half so deep as "Song for Five and Six". Not a complaint, I'm thrilled to see anything from the album place so high.
Taylor Swift – "Out of the Woods" – A million times better than "Shake It Off". I'm not generally speaking a fan, but this is an astounding song, fusing Swift's country-bred storytelling & songwriting gifts with a titanic, goosebump-worthy pop production. Biggest surprise is that the approach suits her as well as (or better!) than the countrified sound that made her a star. First time I've felt inclined to play the "too low" card.
Young Thug – "Danny Glover" – This thread is doing a fine job of killing my tiny, carefully tender ember of Young Thug enthusiasm.
Charli XCX – "Boom Clap" – Fun! Boring! Sounds like denoizified Sleigh Bells.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
also find the ensuing discussion about country production being bigger than any ensuing discussion about the song quite sad
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
Thx for these, new to me and great from today:
40 GURU "Pooley"38 TKAY MAIDZA "U-Huh"36 YOUNG THUG "Stoner" 30 RÖYKSOPP & ROBYN "Monument"29 DEJ LOAF "Try Me"28 HODGSON "Babylon System
<3 <3 <3
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
Hey, alienated from today's weird rock scene? Go country! It sounds just like the stuff you liked in the 70s, well, at least the soft rock stuff!
the dude from staind went modern country, lol.
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
and I've read complaints that the lyrics are far better than the song; it's getting credit for its politics. That's not what I've read in its defenses.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
I still like lots of '90s & '80s country but stuff like "Drunk On A Plane" is an abomination & an insult to its audience
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:44 (eleven years ago)
it's like a million years old tbf
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:45 (eleven years ago)
― The Reverend, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:29 PM (12 minutes ago)
OTM! Would have voted for it (and "Honest") if, you know, I had bothered to read the nominations thread or put together a ballot or vote or anything :/
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:46 (eleven years ago)
And I just learned from TSJ that the guy from Default did too.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:47 (eleven years ago)
― example (crüt),
the musical details are funny. Love the strings.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:47 (eleven years ago)
imo "drunk on a plane" is a perfect song about getting drunk on a plane
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 22:47 (eleven years ago)