I honestly don't know enough k-pop to make the comparison I was paraphrasing Matt.
Musically speaking, QT falls under the same genre as Me & My, Aqua, Paradisio, Vengaboys, ATC and for us in latinamerica, Fey and Kabah. I actually like some of that music. Paradisio's Bailando and Fey's mi media naranja immediatly take me back to my childhood, I can hear the connection to QT with the difference that QT feels cynical to me, it doesn't seem to me like the artists behind them are actually enjoying themselves but rather pretending to. It feels all very self-conscious to me to be truly enjoyable.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:19 (eleven years ago)
pretty much every single time hey qt (or beautiful) have come up on shuffle while i'm at work or in the car or on the bus or something i've been thrilled to hear it and it's put me in a better mood which very few other songs from this year have done so i guess what i'm trying to say is sorry
― olly, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:20 (eleven years ago)
think ppl confusing bubblegum bass with bubblegum pop
― nxd, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:22 (eleven years ago)
it feels like they're trying to be kawaii or something though
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 8:14 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
who doesn't want to be Kawhi?
― pandemic, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:23 (eleven years ago)
I dunno I tried to listen to it without thinking about context and once I did that I couldn't really sense anything in the music that immediately seemed cynical or self-conscious.
I'm more intrigued by what is perceived as being new/novel/interesting in it. Other than that it sounds underproduced relative to the stuff it resembles.
It doesn't bother me that people would enjoy it obv,
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:24 (eleven years ago)
Yeah tbh this particular example did strike as becoming so close to the thing it was parodying that it became the thing itself and lost its ironic distance
― 龜, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:27 (eleven years ago)
I don't mind people enjoying it either. As I've said, without context I think it's a great song bar the vocals which are not really my thing.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:27 (eleven years ago)
i dont know why anyone likes anything but i always take them at face value in what they say, they dont need to be consistent they can do whatever they like. I didnt like the QT because it made horrible sounds, but no worse than most of the other ones here
I think its ok for people to like music for things that arent the sounds themselves too, whatever that might be
i'm not one of those people though, for me there is either a welcoming sound or there is a blaring sound. There is a valley with some trees and the occasional cabin, or there are cars and people being run over by men who dont look where they are going because they think they own everything and think their crying is more important than having peaceful and genial sounds for everybody else.
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:28 (eleven years ago)
I like this D'Angelo song ok, glad that Charade will beat it tho
― telling like hot takes (imago), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:29 (eleven years ago)
Lol at comparing QT to cars and people being run over.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:30 (eleven years ago)
The point I was making with those references is that liking it for the sugary synthetic rush is perfectly fine (Emily knowing your tastes as I do I don't doubt that your love for it is 100% sincere), hence the first line of my post. But the discourse around PC Music is clearly an attraction for some other people who wouldn't go out and stan for them in the same way without it, and that's the bit I'm suspicious of.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:31 (eleven years ago)
the sonorous bell on "prayer" is everything
OTM
― gr8080, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:32 (eleven years ago)
clicked on the PC Music thread at random coz of the ASCII filigree and opened the first Youtube, which was Hey QT, and loved it, simple as that
― telling like hot takes (imago), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:33 (eleven years ago)
*the first Youtube I saw, even
yeah but you have made much more grandiose claims itt about what it is doing
― Tim F, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:34 (eleven years ago)
we all analyse after the fact
― telling like hot takes (imago), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:35 (eleven years ago)
Maybe it is doing those things for him, and who can say thats wrong?
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:35 (eleven years ago)
"Pooley" features one of my favorite musical qualities, something I call for lack of a better term "triumphant backup chorus"
― gr8080, Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:58 AM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes^
Pooley is so great. since he also did Lapaz Toyota, maybe Guru will be our afrobeats Javiera Mena
― rob, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:36 (eleven years ago)
"Prayer," I've realized, is my favorite BM song.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:36 (eleven years ago)
Pooley is such a great track! Glad to see it placed. I love the 'Autobahn'-style rise.
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:37 (eleven years ago)
I'd somehow not heard Pooley before and I was initially a bit disappointed that Ball-J had apparently decided to slow down again but then those four rising chords appeared and I was totally sold.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:37 (eleven years ago)
I too want to clear that I said SOME of the people liking it don't seem consistent. Like, you have all these hipster fans of QT and PC music with so many guilty pleasures but then comes PC music and they feel like they can enjoy this and when their other hipster friends confront them about it they can say 'no man this is different, this is a satire about a soda can as a pop artist'.
Obviously noone in this forum give a fuck what other people think about their music taste. The QT conundrum doesn't apply in here.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:38 (eleven years ago)
good point about people being run over, hey qt reminds of nothing so much as helen love sharing a bumper car with crazy frog
mad xps obv
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:38 (eleven years ago)
This is my first ever participation in an ILM poll and I've found it scintillating so far, silently observing the debates trickle in throughout my work day. A couple I've voted for have showed up (Owen Pallett, the hotly debated Hey QT), and a good discovery made in Shamir! Hoping for some surprise entries of abstraction and intensity in today's batch...
On PC music (because why the hell not) - is it really so detestable to warp and play with a popular medium? Great things come from the deconstruction of art! And I'm not referring to PC music per se, but rather the fertile environment it creates for pop discourse. I don't think it intends to be wholly cynical, and there's something I love about being emotionally manipulated in this way. It is pared back enough to be uncanny; generic enough to tap into universal(ish) triggers of infectiousness; abundantly positive in spite of its contemporaneous critique... So yeah, emphatically in favour. Wooo!
― tangenttangent, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:39 (eleven years ago)
I think theyre perfectly entitled to say no man this is different, this is a satire about a soda can as a pop artist if they like
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:39 (eleven years ago)
DC, you're wrong, and you join a significant majority of those posting in this thread who are also wrong.
really incredible lj posts this year, a+
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:40 (eleven years ago)
just as im entitled to say its horrible i dont like soda artists pop or cans.
quite like the bell in the d'angelo, but not the rest of the track
― saer, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:41 (eleven years ago)
I hope people are going to be a lot less dickish ITT than they were yesterday. Some posters should be ashamed of themselves.Grady you're doing a great job and love the graphics!
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:42 (eleven years ago)
I feel like the Aqua/QT comparison is bcz they both (superficially) share a sort if hyperactive artificiality, which in QT's case means you are actually responding to the song's affect, and not just the fact that it appears ti be a stylized and reductive Itchy-and-Scratchy type gag about how inane pop music is
― all about that ace of base (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:43 (eleven years ago)
lol, QT broke this thread
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:45 (eleven years ago)
So, lets move on. Wrapping up: The concept of QT feels cynical to me and the people enjoying it purely based on its concept are incredibly dull to me and the song per se is all in good fun but nowhere near as amazing as you are making it up to be. When I read the raving reviews about it I felt pretty excited about it and then I heard the actual song. It was ok. Some were claiming they are pushing the envelope I think it doesn't stray too far from the source of inspiration.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:45 (eleven years ago)
the people enjoying it purely based on its concept are non-existent
― telling like hot takes (imago), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:46 (eleven years ago)
hey crüT
― Ottbot jr (NickB), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:47 (eleven years ago)
:D
― telling like hot takes (imago), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:48 (eleven years ago)
mods please threadban anyone who keeps talking abt QT from now on thx
― gr8080, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:49 (eleven years ago)
Xpost: in this forum there are none, but believe me: There are definitely people enjoying this ironically because P4k or someone told them it's cool to do it.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:49 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/CECVHRi.jpg
38 TKAY MAIDZA "U-Huh" [326 points, 11 votes, 1 first place vote]http://youtu.be/XvzC4TfsrI0
Never heard this one.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:50 (eleven years ago)
xp i'm sure that happens for all sorts of music
― nxd, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:50 (eleven years ago)
yes u-huh!brilliant song :) very excited for tkay 2k15
― nxd, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:51 (eleven years ago)
Grady throw us something awesome or polarizing at least so we can stop the qt talk.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:52 (eleven years ago)
ah man this gets me smiling every time i hear it
― nxd, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:52 (eleven years ago)
I too want to clear that I said SOME of the people liking it don't seem consistent. Like, you have all these hipster fans of QT and PC music with so many guilty pleasures but then comes PC music and they feel like they can enjoy this and when their other hipster friends confront them about it they can say 'no man this is different, this is a satire about a soda can as a pop artist'.Obviously noone in this forum give a fuck what other people think about their music taste. The QT conundrum doesn't apply in here.
Oh right, so you're not angry at this song, you're angry with some people you know who aren't here. Would it be too forward to suggest that you raise this issue of consistency with *them* if it's so important.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:53 (eleven years ago)
Tkay will do. I love this.
― Moka, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:53 (eleven years ago)
QT is to Aqua what James Ferraro's 'Far Side Virtual' was to an old Encarta CD-Rom. I think where ILM is failing ITT is in separating bona fide pop with conceptual 'art' music.
― quinoa: how's it spelt? (dog latin), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:53 (eleven years ago)
Which artist currently holds the record for most tracks appearances in a single year (not including "feat" credits)?
― Vulvacura (Eric H.), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:54 (eleven years ago)
Tkai Maidza I only heard last week or else would've voted for it.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:54 (eleven years ago)
encarta or n.carter
― nxd, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:54 (eleven years ago)
another track i jammed all summer and totally forgot about when voting
― gr8080, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:55 (eleven years ago)
heard and enjoyed "u-huh" when the singles jukebox covered her last year but forgot about it (because it didn't seem to be available to buy anywhere) until last week, when it came up on one of the nominations threads. really great, love the verses a bit more than the hook but it's a failure of so much of the music press that i didn't see a single other outlet talk about her
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 13:56 (eleven years ago)