i know what you mean, but i also think the floyd might've been a worse band if they had a really virtuosic drummer
― tylerw, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link
I agree that the Floyd didn't need a flashy drummer, I just think that Mason's drumming on The Dark Side Of The Moon pales in comparison to his drumming on other albums.
The real ear-candy, of course, comes from Wright and Gilmour on those '70s records.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
turrican seems to be -- no it can't be -- suggesting that....perhaps...pink floyd doesn't RULE?
i must go now....i've said too much
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:09 (nine years ago) link
Mason's nowhere near as bad a drummer as Waters is a bass player but I'm not sure why the underachievement of the rhythm section doesn't matter to me so much, songs I guess.
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:41 (nine years ago) link
Roger Waters' preoccupation with the war is completely understandable, but I'd be being completely dishonest if I said it didn't get on my tits.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:52 (nine years ago) link
and his voice, my god is voice... tolerable on some tracks, downright unbearable on others... why couldn't they have just let Gilmour sing everything?
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link
And it's too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw around
― calstars, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link
It's such a shame that Roger was a bit of a lousy singer and lousy bassist (most of the tastier bass work, such as on 'Hey You' and 'Pigs' was done by Gilmour) because without his lyrics and concepts helping to tie those classic '70s records together who knows what would have happened?
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 22:02 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUoUim7WGwo
Be careful what you wish for, Turrican.
― doug watson, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 00:07 (nine years ago) link
You are just the worst genie.
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 01:10 (nine years ago) link
turrican i dont think u understand this thread
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link
read an okcupid profile where someone mentioned that they thought pink floyd was overrated, not in the "music, movies, books" section but in the "about me" section.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 03:24 (nine years ago) link
did u neg them
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 03:27 (nine years ago) link
no, i like to keep it positive. i just didn't message them.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 03:55 (nine years ago) link
I think Mason brings his wet teabag funk to 'Have a Cigar'
Is there a book that details studio ephemera like who played bass on what track and who sang 'Cigar' etc?
― calstars, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link
Cigar was sung by Roy Harper
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 14:29 (nine years ago) link
"Cigar Was Sung by Roy Harper and Other Fun Pink Floyd Facts!" published by Random House, 2002.
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link
I didn't know the bass for "Hey You" was played by Gilmour. I assumed Waters locked himself in a studio with Bob Ezrin and Toni Tennille and made the whole album by himself.
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:19 (nine years ago) link
Waters' bass playing was much better early on too - when he 'couldn't play' - thereafter, plod plod plod plod plod.
― A trumpet growing in a garden (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 January 2015 15:25 (nine years ago) link
Pink Floyd started using the name "The Pink Floyd" in February 1965. Happy 50th anniversary!
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 February 2015 17:01 (nine years ago) link
Pink Floyd rules, obviously, but part of me wishes they'd have stuck it out as the Architectural Abdabs.
― ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 23 February 2015 18:11 (nine years ago) link
Gilmour touring. New album in September...http://www.neptunepinkfloyd.co.uk/david-gilmour-tour-announced-europe-2015
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2015 06:50 (nine years ago) link
He was pretty great last time at the Royal Albert Hall, Fat Old Sun, Echoes and Arnold Layne with Bowie guesting.
― MaresNest, Monday, 9 March 2015 08:24 (nine years ago) link
@RandPaulFor the crazy diamonds to shine government must get out of the way. "Shine on you crazy diamond."
gtfo
― mookieproof, Friday, 10 April 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
set the controls for the FUCK YOU RAND PAUL
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 April 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link
someone please make sure Roger sees this
― totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 10 April 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link
what an asshole
― calstars, Friday, 10 April 2015 21:05 (nine years ago) link
All in all we must throw bricks at Rand Paul
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 April 2015 21:08 (nine years ago) link
Several species of small minded reactionaries and grooving with a prick
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Friday, 10 April 2015 22:04 (nine years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=aWTzNpWN7rM
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 10 April 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
^^^^(Minimoog settings on "Welcome To The Machine")
http://i60.tinypic.com/27xkuv9.jpg
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 09:15 (nine years ago) link
Can anyone advise, what is the best recording/boot from that funny period in early 1970 when they were playing Main Theme From More, Violent Sequence, Heart Beat, Pig Meat, Sisyphus and so on. Thanks!
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 09:22 (nine years ago) link
there are no good boots from that period. the recordings that exist are lo-fi and difficult to listen to. the go-to one is birmingham feb 11 1970, which contains all of the tracks you mention, runs at a wonky speed, and lacks anything remotely resembling treble. if you want something of even worse quality you can check out croydon jan 18 1970, which has a better version of "main theme" and an extremely strange version of "the embryo", but it is a tough listen.
― rushomancy, Monday, 20 April 2015 10:45 (nine years ago) link
Thanks! I had feared that might be the case, I think I read somewhere that the Harvested guys did a remastering job on the Birmingham recording, I will track it down.
― MaresNest, Monday, 20 April 2015 11:07 (nine years ago) link
1970-01-18 Fairfield Halls, Croydon is a decent one too. Long description here:http://yeeshkul.com/forum/showthread.php?27749-Pink-Floyd-1970-01-18-Fairfield-Halls-Croydon-gen5-24-96-revA
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 01:58 (nine years ago) link
Doh! Adding to what rushomancy said, apparently Croydon was the first time "The Embryo" was played.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 02:01 (nine years ago) link
Concertgebouw '69 is amazing.
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 02:15 (nine years ago) link
technically floyd did embryo for a bbc session in '68, but that was the "works" version... croydon was its revival as part of the regular set for the next two years (and you can tell it's the first time because they hadn't really worked out a standard structure for it yet- the opening riff shows up somewhere in the middle- which they had by feb 11).
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 11:54 (nine years ago) link
those who are into strange versions of "the embryo", incidentally, should check out the bizarre ernst-merck halle 1970 version with the lengthy "corrosion"/pict rant intro, as well as some of the last versions- the final recorded performance from nov 20 1971 reaches up to a good half hour, but i prefer the hunter college take from earlier in the month, which touches on some of the same themes but is slightly less padded (only 20 mins).
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 11:56 (nine years ago) link
So great! My first PF boot too, the version of Biding My Time is hilarious, for the last two years I've been trying to persuade EMI/Warner to put it on the fabled Early Years Box Set
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 12:23 (nine years ago) link
What's the Early Years box set?!
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
fabled.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link
It is fabled because it's been talked about since before EMI got fucked. I know somebody who is part of the team, but I can't say much unfortunately :(
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 14:08 (nine years ago) link
I've concluded it doesn't matter much if it ever comes out or not. The Immersion Editions that did show up pretty conclusively show that they don't really have crap sitting around in their archives that you can't hear in pristine quality on bootleg.
― rushomancy, Tuesday, 21 April 2015 23:06 (nine years ago) link
If there is such stuff lying around I would buy it on an official release but not a bootleg, so it does matter if it comes out.
― anthony braxton diamond geezer (anagram), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 07:37 (nine years ago) link
We need a official Pink Floyd Bootleg Series of Ruling more than any more Immersion sets. Probably make more money too.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 08:25 (nine years ago) link
Immersion set of just like Relics with three cds of singles live cuts alt version would rule so hard
― droit au butt (Euler), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 09:11 (nine years ago) link
expanded deluxe Relics is a great idea
― demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 22 April 2015 14:33 (nine years ago) link
YESalso YES to a bootleg series.#pinkfloydrules
― tylerw, Wednesday, 22 April 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link