ILM's Top 77 Tracks of 2014

i guess her appeal is that she's sexy but also an all american girl next door like some 50s pin-up which makes her safe for parents and kids to like? idk surely her expiration date is approaching.

― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:34 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is sort of her appeal -- it's an edginess that's not *too* edgy, but it's also weaponized sex appeal in the same vein of rihanna and nicki minaj

at EMP last year somebody delivered a fervent defense of Katy Perry as singer-songwriter and Christian escapee. It wasn't persuasive.

whats the relationship between pc music and vaporwave

― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:06 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

Vaporwave >>>>>>>

otoh I hate the terms used to dismiss her

katy perry and nicki minaj to have the same sort of appeal

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:34 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

neon wigs and funny faces?

it's not just cultural talking points, it's character as well - with most megastars you get a sense of who they are as a person (doesn't matter how much of this is artifice). katy perry is just...chameleonic but not in an interesting way, if she wasn't so famous she'd be forgettable

Start w/ Lookin Ass and not Anaconda
― 龜, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:33 PM (54 minutes ago)

i did!

Cultural appropriation, puh-lease. Nobody is not a cultural appropriation. You are born neck deep in culture and it all came from everywhere and everybody took it from everybody.

I do recall Ann Powers on NPR saying a few years back that Katy Perry meant "kooky" or "wacky" or some other situation comedy type adjective. So, there's your deep meaning.

still hoping that Meaghan Trainor track appears, i gave it a high vote!

i sincerely regret not putting meghan trainor at #1

― example (crüt),

Hooray for all pop stars who don't "mean" totally boring culture studies talking points.

― Vic Perry, Tuesday,

Not what it's about though - she doesn't have to 'mean' anything but the issue is she 'isn't' anything either. Voice? Presence? Performance? Visuals? Can't really describe her at all without pointing to specific singles. It's not a problem per se but it's surprising to me how huge she is in the history of selling records.

prism & teenage dream are pretty decent albums

Katy Perry's being ex-CCM is definitely a part of her "thing"

if she wasn't so famous she'd be forgettable

― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

Almost zenlike

neon wigs and funny faces?

shooting shit from their tits, for instance

music nerds can split the differences between nicki & KP but when you start to talk about global stardom the similarities begin to blend

theoretically pro-"dark horse" bc it's a false "moments in love"

When my son was very young, he found a copy of RS with Perry on it and fell in love with it, kissed it, kept it in his toybox for a while, was embarrassed when I brought it up

That's kinda the extent of my opinion of Katy Perry I guess

if meghan trainor has a song that sounds like art of noise i'll prob like that too

i just remembered katy perry is doing this year's superbowl. enjoy that americans.

― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with special guest star lenny kravitz lmao

i'll also say that prism & teenage dream get bad raps around here -- neither is a great album and she doesn't have the point of view of carly rae jepsen or charli xcx, but there are some pretty good non-singles across both albums

When my son was very young, he found a copy of RS with Perry on it and fell in love with it, kissed it, kept it in his toybox for a while, was embarrassed when I brought it up

Hope he doesn't know how to use google, because your name is right beneath that post.

http://i.imgur.com/oHEK7Tr.jpg

48 JESSIE WARE "Champagne Kisses" [286 points, 10 votes]
http://youtu.be/8qAp5g5keUA

she doesn't have the point of view of carly rae jepsen or charli xcx

― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:39 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

pretty good shade

YAY xp

ayo look at this gorgeous heartbreaking song i did not vote for

voted for this but totally didn't expect this to place. nice :)

i couldn't decide b/w "champagne kisses" "kinda sometimes maybe" & "tough love" for this poll, all are perfect songs

What a beautiful beautiful song Champagne Kisses is.

When my son was very young, he found a copy of RS with Perry on it and fell in love with it, kissed it, kept it in his toybox for a while, was embarrassed when I brought it up

Hope he doesn't know how to use google, because your name is right beneath that post.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:39 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not worried - he'd have to be really bored to do that kind of searching, I didn't use his actual name (which is unique), and even if he found it we'd laugh it off. He was like 3 or 4 and probably doesn't remember now.

i just remembered katy perry is doing this year's superbowl. enjoy that americans.

― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

with special guest star lenny kravitz lmao

― lag∞n

jesus

her complete cultural appropriation/naivety act is the thing that really grates, and I really think she doesn't understand why it's bad

what's this referring to? her culturally appropriating ancient egypt???

the pervasiveness of cultural appropriation should not exempt it from being identified or critiqued especially in its most flagrant or harmful iterations xp

that whole Jessie Ware album is a huge grower. i voted for, i think, both 'want your feeling' and 'cruel' but i doubt either will place.

if u want to see the worst of katy perry's cultural appropriation see her "this is how we do" video or her horrendous tweets around that time

jessie ware made a disappointingly patchy album but its relatively few highlights were so so good and i'm happy to see one of them here. "champagne kisses" feels like an instant ~classic, in a "this is exactly what you imagined peak jessie ware would be", and it hits all its spots, but my vote went to "tough love"

what's this referring to? her culturally appropriating ancient egypt???

― Mordy, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:42 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/katy-perrys-geisha-style-performance-needs-to-be-called-out/281805/

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/26/katy-perry-geisha-performance-american-music-awards-fuss

oh okay - a different song. i thought this was about dark horse.

I would have given this a pretty high ranking on my list if not for my "no album/track artist crossover" rule

the thing that really makes katy stand out re cultural appropriation (a pretty underthought concept that deserves to be interrogated btw) is that she does it constantly

Jessie Ware's album is def patchy but I can't stop listening to it. Love "Champagne Kisses" – those one-note bits are a helluva hook.

it really shocks me that "champagne kisses" has not been made a single yet. like what are they THINKING

http://i.imgur.com/ZzvnEMl.png?1

(another moment of katy perry appropriation)

when Ware hits the high notes *swoon*

braids?

the appropriation of cyberpunk culture?

Thought we would have waited until Iggy Azalea places for this convo but hey let's go

Yay! Don't understand the people who say Tough Love is patchy. I voted for the album, which I think is consistently very good and often excellent.

braids?

― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:45 PM (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the appropriation of cyberpunk culture?

― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:46 PM (1 second ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

r u guys english or something

braids?

― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:45 PM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark

In case yr not taking the piss, baby hairs and cornrows

Is it me or this list so far is very pop, even by ILM standards?