Meghan Trainor isn't going to place now is she?
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:32 (eleven years ago)
Hooray for all pop stars who don't "mean" totally boring culture studies talking points.
― Vic Perry, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
ha my friend was aghast that her grade school students were singing abt dahmer too
― gr8080, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
in the bubble of criticism rihanna (for instance) represents a lot more than katy perry, but out in the irl world that's not really the case
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
If nothing else, Katy Perry has introduced legions of teenage girls to Kacey Musgraves and Robyn.
― Indexed, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
i sincerely regret not putting meghan trainor at #1
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
I liked Katy Perry a lot more after I watched her movie, which I guess was the point of it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:33 (eleven years ago)
i've felt for sometime that katy perry is this generation's paula abdul (like i guess gaga is cyndi lauper). but that does a disservice to paula who was an all time great dancer. katy perry fails at every level of being a good pop star. i guess her appeal is that she's sexy but also an all american girl next door like some 50s pin-up which makes her safe for parents and kids to like? idk surely her expiration date is approaching.
― prolego, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)
you'd probably be surprised by how many people find katy perry and nicki minaj to have the same sort of appeal
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)
katy perry is a garbage person but I like this song and it makes me feel bad
her complete cultural appropriation/naivety act is the thing that really grates, and I really think she doesn't understand why it's bad
ironically, the friend I spend the most time explaining certain types of cultural baggage to went to the same high school as katy perry. something in the water out there.
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:34 (eleven years ago)
if katy perry had a video with mc skat kat all would be forgiven
― mh, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)
i guess her appeal is that she's sexy but also an all american girl next door like some 50s pin-up which makes her safe for parents and kids to like? idk surely her expiration date is approaching.
― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:34 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark
this is sort of her appeal -- it's an edginess that's not *too* edgy, but it's also weaponized sex appeal in the same vein of rihanna and nicki minaj
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)
at EMP last year somebody delivered a fervent defense of Katy Perry as singer-songwriter and Christian escapee. It wasn't persuasive.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:35 (eleven years ago)
whats the relationship between pc music and vaporwave
― lag∞n, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:06 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark
Vaporwave >>>>>>>
― 龜, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:36 (eleven years ago)
otoh I hate the terms used to dismiss her
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:36 (eleven years ago)
katy perry and nicki minaj to have the same sort of appeal
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:34 PM (26 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
neon wigs and funny faces?
it's not just cultural talking points, it's character as well - with most megastars you get a sense of who they are as a person (doesn't matter how much of this is artifice). katy perry is just...chameleonic but not in an interesting way, if she wasn't so famous she'd be forgettable
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:36 (eleven years ago)
Start w/ Lookin Ass and not Anaconda― 龜, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:33 PM (54 minutes ago)
i did!
― AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:36 (eleven years ago)
Cultural appropriation, puh-lease. Nobody is not a cultural appropriation. You are born neck deep in culture and it all came from everywhere and everybody took it from everybody.
I do recall Ann Powers on NPR saying a few years back that Katy Perry meant "kooky" or "wacky" or some other situation comedy type adjective. So, there's your deep meaning.
― Vic Perry, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:36 (eleven years ago)
still hoping that Meaghan Trainor track appears, i gave it a high vote!
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
i sincerely regret not putting meghan trainor at #1― example (crüt),
― example (crüt),
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
― Vic Perry, Tuesday,
Not what it's about though - she doesn't have to 'mean' anything but the issue is she 'isn't' anything either. Voice? Presence? Performance? Visuals? Can't really describe her at all without pointing to specific singles. It's not a problem per se but it's surprising to me how huge she is in the history of selling records.
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
prism & teenage dream are pretty decent albums
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
Katy Perry's being ex-CCM is definitely a part of her "thing"
― example (crüt), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
if she wasn't so famous she'd be forgettable
― lex pretend, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:36 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
Almost zenlike
― 龜, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:37 (eleven years ago)
shooting shit from their tits, for instance
music nerds can split the differences between nicki & KP but when you start to talk about global stardom the similarities begin to blend
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:38 (eleven years ago)
theoretically pro-"dark horse" bc it's a false "moments in love"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:38 (eleven years ago)
When my son was very young, he found a copy of RS with Perry on it and fell in love with it, kissed it, kept it in his toybox for a while, was embarrassed when I brought it up
That's kinda the extent of my opinion of Katy Perry I guess
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:38 (eleven years ago)
if meghan trainor has a song that sounds like art of noise i'll prob like that too
i just remembered katy perry is doing this year's superbowl. enjoy that americans.
― prolego, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:29 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
with special guest star lenny kravitz lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:39 (eleven years ago)
i'll also say that prism & teenage dream get bad raps around here -- neither is a great album and she doesn't have the point of view of carly rae jepsen or charli xcx, but there are some pretty good non-singles across both albums
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:39 (eleven years ago)
Hope he doesn't know how to use google, because your name is right beneath that post.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:39 (eleven years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/oHEK7Tr.jpg
48 JESSIE WARE "Champagne Kisses" [286 points, 10 votes]http://youtu.be/8qAp5g5keUA
― gr8080, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:40 (eleven years ago)
she doesn't have the point of view of carly rae jepsen or charli xcx
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, January 20, 2015 6:39 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
pretty good shade
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:40 (eleven years ago)
YAY xp
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:40 (eleven years ago)
ayo look at this gorgeous heartbreaking song i did not vote for
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:41 (eleven years ago)
voted for this but totally didn't expect this to place. nice :)
― prolego, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:41 (eleven years ago)
i couldn't decide b/w "champagne kisses" "kinda sometimes maybe" & "tough love" for this poll, all are perfect songs
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:41 (eleven years ago)
What a beautiful beautiful song Champagne Kisses is.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:41 (eleven years ago)
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 12:39 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm not worried - he'd have to be really bored to do that kind of searching, I didn't use his actual name (which is unique), and even if he found it we'd laugh it off. He was like 3 or 4 and probably doesn't remember now.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
― lag∞n
jesus
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
what's this referring to? her culturally appropriating ancient egypt???
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
the pervasiveness of cultural appropriation should not exempt it from being identified or critiqued especially in its most flagrant or harmful iterations xp
― dyl, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:42 (eleven years ago)
that whole Jessie Ware album is a huge grower. i voted for, i think, both 'want your feeling' and 'cruel' but i doubt either will place.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:43 (eleven years ago)
if u want to see the worst of katy perry's cultural appropriation see her "this is how we do" video or her horrendous tweets around that time
― dyl, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:43 (eleven years ago)
jessie ware made a disappointingly patchy album but its relatively few highlights were so so good and i'm happy to see one of them here. "champagne kisses" feels like an instant ~classic, in a "this is exactly what you imagined peak jessie ware would be", and it hits all its spots, but my vote went to "tough love"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:43 (eleven years ago)
― Mordy, Tuesday, January 20, 2015 1:42 PM (3 seconds ago) Bookmark
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/11/katy-perrys-geisha-style-performance-needs-to-be-called-out/281805/
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/26/katy-perry-geisha-performance-american-music-awards-fuss
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:43 (eleven years ago)
oh okay - a different song. i thought this was about dark horse.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:44 (eleven years ago)
I would have given this a pretty high ranking on my list if not for my "no album/track artist crossover" rule
― Tay-Tay Brooklynpants (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:44 (eleven years ago)
the thing that really makes katy stand out re cultural appropriation (a pretty underthought concept that deserves to be interrogated btw) is that she does it constantly
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:44 (eleven years ago)
Jessie Ware's album is def patchy but I can't stop listening to it. Love "Champagne Kisses" – those one-note bits are a helluva hook.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:44 (eleven years ago)