New Joanna Newsom Album "Ys" Due Nov 14

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Are there really still no bootlegs from the orchestral shows, btw?

toby, Saturday, 24 February 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

There's at least one good-quality bootleg, Toby, but I don't have any good identifying information to help you out with. The arrangements sound way better (or at least less arch) with that reduced 4/5-person backing -- you should definitely keep looking.

(Or wait, by "orchestral" do you mean she's done shows with the full arrangements?)

nabisco, Saturday, 24 February 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

"way better" is a understatement. it's what the album should have sounded like, instead of y'know, fucking unlistenable.

fandango, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

(Or wait, by "orchestral" do you mean she's done shows with the full arrangements?)
Yep, she has. In the UK, I think.

I still haven't heard the band versions of the songs, but I keep hearing good things about those, esp. from people who didn't like the album. Something about them sounding Eastern-y, with bouzouki and all.

Turangalila, Sunday, 25 February 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, that's what I mean - I have a couple of the "reduced" ones, and they're great, but having been to one of the orchestral shows I'd kinda like to hear that again, too.

toby, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I dig it. I just wanted to answer because the thread always seems to be in the most recent. I think that's fun.

Saxby D. Elder, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

the songs are too long and they just go on and on and on and on and it feels like you're listening to an over-excited five year-old telling you about the caterpillar they found, for hours

I think this is perhaps the most OTM criticism of "Ys" that I've yet seen.

o. nate, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

this chick is not as good as tone loc.

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

tone loc? young mc pwns her totes.

Edward III, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Listened to the bootleg. I quite like Ys arranged for the band, but I much prefer the album version of the songs. I still hate "Sawdust & Diamonds." Telling, eh?

Turangalila, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

so it took me almost a year apparently to fall for this album but...yeah.

strongohulkington, Monday, 4 June 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

NO STRONGO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

J0hn D., Monday, 4 June 2007 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

yesssss give in.

jonathan - stl, Monday, 4 June 2007 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

ha.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 4 June 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

For a guy who self-identifies as a feminist, I willfully ignore this stuff to a crazy degree.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 9 July 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Don't be such a girl.

M.V., Monday, 9 July 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

i only just got this. for ages i held off, because long songs (particularly for this genre) can scare the hell out of me. but there really is something peculiarly intriguing about this record. there's enough variety and shifts throughout the songs for me not to exercise any desire to turn the thing off. and the softer moments, the really quiet sections, are really quite enchanting.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

haha, just realised how heavily accented some of the vocals are

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

i could kick myself til i was lame for missing the tour.

pisces, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

'cosmia', the closer, is the true highlight. a beautiful song. i can almost appreciate the way she sings the word 'can'.

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

...but can't for the life of me imitate the way she sings the word 'can'

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

I love, nay, cherish the album now but I had the same trepidation, I saw her play the suite in its entirety with just a harp before she cut the album and it was intriguing but extreeeemely exhausting so that along with the hype/backlash gave me every reason to beg off the album(which I did until a few months ago).

tremendoid, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I have not listened to this since last November.

I might have to give it a try tonight.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

it was not that good, was it?

alex, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. I tried again too. Piece of shit.

paulhw, Thursday, 27 September 2007 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

album not that good (ruined by Van Dyke Parks as some suggest upthread), tour supporting it was one of the best things I have ever seen.

sleeve, Thursday, 27 September 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

anything but a 'piece of shit'. over the top? perhaps. overly ambitious? sure. but competent, intriguing and enchanting nonetheless

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

I would go see her if she played Flying a Kite. What's with the lack of love for that one?

MRZBW, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

I bought this weeks ago. Honestly I had never heard a song of hers until a few weeks ago.

I haven't paid close attention to lyrics since I was a Rap fan in high school. When in college I discovered Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine, I stopped caring about lyrics. I'm 24.

Ys is lyric heavy and not as diverse musically as I'd like. However when I take the time to read some of the lyrics I'm kind of moved by some of the lines. Specifically, "Sawdust and Diamonds". I'm gonna have to make some time to really pay attention to what she's saying. Ys would definitely be the first "story" I've finished in a while.

As for her voice, I don't find it too unusual. Sometimes I think I'm listening to Bjork though [& I don't really have a problem with that].

dreamsonvhs, Saturday, 15 March 2008 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

!

carne asada, Saturday, 15 March 2008 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

i think she has a great voice, but sings a little too over-enthusiastically at times

Charlie Howard, Sunday, 16 March 2008 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

dear god.
she's shown admirable restraint in keeping this under 3 discs of material I guess.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, September 5, 2006

lol

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Sunday, 21 February 2010 09:25 (sixteen years ago)

Edward III unpacking the meteoroid bit upthread is one of my all-time ILX favorite posts.

dad a, Sunday, 21 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

does anyone still think the new album is better than this?

piscesx, Monday, 20 September 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

hell yes

but first one is still my favourite.

sean gramophone, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:16 (fifteen years ago)

I don't.

jaymc, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:27 (fifteen years ago)

dear god.
she's shown admirable restraint in keeping this under 3 discs of material I guess.

― bad hair day house (fandango), Tuesday, September 5, 2006

lol

― i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Sunday, February 21, 2010 4:25 AM

I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:30 (fifteen years ago)

I think the new one is better, but I wish it contained more of the harp shredding on display in "Sawdust & Diamonds".

Moodles, Monday, 20 September 2010 21:44 (fifteen years ago)

I went to this thing the other night where spontaneous songs kept breaking out and this one girl sang this 10 minute epic poem about a boy and she totally had Joanna-voice, I was so sure it was imitation-as-flattery, but afterward she was like "No, I've never heard of her." So I sent her this. It blew her mind.

p.m.s.b. (pre-mall smoke bomb) (zorn_bond.mp3), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:50 (fifteen years ago)

oh maaan

I'm just Grinderman, y'all never mind me (markers), Monday, 20 September 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

ys is just totally fearless. i have a lot of admiration for JN because she just sounds so uninhibited and when i listen to this record i'm always reminded of other great songwriters and the work they did at their narrative peak, for instance bob dylan circa blood on the tracks.

the latest album is just too much for me to absorb, and it's frustrating that i'll probably never get round to appreciating more than just bits and pieces, because there's just too much of it.

charlie h, Tuesday, 21 September 2010 04:05 (fifteen years ago)

I had a bit of an AW MAN moment last night when I realised that I'm older than Joanna Newsom was when Ys was released.

(I also saw her play last night and she was great and so was Roy Harper supporting, but I'll save my embarrassing effusiveness for elsewhere.)

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 21 September 2010 13:57 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

(((d-_-b)))

markers, Thursday, 29 September 2011 04:51 (fourteen years ago)

the hills are groaning with excess, like a table ceaselessly being set

markers, Thursday, 29 September 2011 04:57 (fourteen years ago)

Yep. This album is still a masterpiece in its own little way, despite what came before and after it. Bring back Van Dyke Parks!

Turangalila, Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

I haven't listened to Joanna for ages. The triple album lost me a bit...

dog latin, Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

That's because it was hopelessly dull. Go back to Ys, the 'meteorite' refrain on 'Emily' is heartbreaking.

Turangalila, Thursday, 29 September 2011 14:51 (fourteen years ago)

can't really get with her other stuff, but Ys has gradually and steadily grown to become an all-timer for me.

bendy, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:15 (fourteen years ago)

She'd have been a shoe-in for the ILX pre-covers LULU -- the Lou Reed/Metallica album if she could limit herself to twelve minutes...

Mark G, Thursday, 29 September 2011 15:24 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

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