sam smith: another adele/emeli sandé or something more interesting?

lol I was talking to my coworker and he called Sam Smith "the male Adele" and I was like "...yes", except he meant it as a compliment

he's Bobby Darin.

He's the male Bobby Darin.

bobby darin never resembled a Goth frog so hurdle #1 says no

Kevin Spacey....as Sam Smith

Adele is not all that great but she's still so so so much better than Sam Smith

look, i said FUIUD

Wrote a big check to Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne.

http://www.factmag.com/2015/01/26/tom-petty-now-gets-songwriting-royalties-for-sam-smith-stay-with-me/

For all the zillion times I've heard "Stay," that never leapt out at me. But totally obvious now that they mention it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiWYmjBzx7s

as the people's wizard i will now let you kids in on the smart play

"latch" is a great song but fuck his solo stuff

restart is the jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGzHgo7n4jM

It's not like "Stay" is such a remarkably original melody, I'll bet the similarity was completely accidental. Still, serves you right for coming up with such a lazy tune.

Yeah, so many songs sound like bits of other songs that it's kind of mysterious to me which ones get singled out as violators.

the ones that make a shitload of money

yeah I was gonna say

There is that. I have a lawyer friend who does copyright work, a certain amount of her time is taken up with aggrieved lawsuits from people who are positive that somebody heard their song on Soundcloud and ripped off their I-IV-V progression. (Think she defended Marilyn Manson at one point.)

haha

get this little shit out of here. career needs to be ended right now

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/music/201502/sam-smith-new-rat-pack

But I feel like class and romance have gotten lost. We've become a bit lazy, not just in terms of music. I miss the days when girls would wear full long dresses and just stand onstage and sing. That's what I'm trying to bring back: that timeless element. I want to create music that people will be listening to in fifty years, you know?

lol what a creepy fuck

"I long for the days when gays didn't have to have sex with men."

lol at the first line of that article making it sound like he's some impoverished piaf story when his privilege is well-documented

samsmith, a humble working-class maker of sams

Even if you overlook the basic misogyny there it's a particularly galling example of unjustified rockism.

Maybe it would be if it had anything to do with rock music

wat?

i think i must have heard approx thirty seconds of this guy's music but he's p much the worst isn't he?

I saw an old TV show with Bobby Darin, he's definitely trying that style/class of singer.

(i.e. I think that's what he meant by class)

I don't mind his stuff like "I need to know now", that's fine.

But, strikes against: "Stay" is such bullshit he's lying. and "Money on my mind" is the title yelled out loud and the "I don't have.." and "I do it for love" is whispered, so as not to put off people who want to join in that like money. "Price Tag" Jessie J is the same for that.

But, strikes against: "Stay" is such bullshit he's lying. and "Money on my mind" is the title yelled out loud and the "I don't have.." and "I do it for love" is whispered, so as not to put off people who want to join in that like money. "Price Tag" Jessie J is the same for that.

― Mark G, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:42 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, this is part of my beef with "royals" as well

this kid is very dumb but his music is good!

Tom Petty:

"About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam. All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen. Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by. Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement. The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention. And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself. Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this. A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all."

Id like to see Sam Smith write something that sounds familiar to a Don Henley solo joint

"to coin a phrase, sam is just a 'rebel without a clue'"

florida man is gracious

this kid is very dumb but his music is good!

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:44 AM (Yesterday)

his music is dumb too, it's very obvious in a lot of ways, but it sort of works. i ain't mad

Even if you overlook the basic misogyny there it's a particularly galling example of unjustified rockism.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:09 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. I mean, he is all of 20. He is exactly the right age for that sort of rockist attitude.

(What would be justified rockism?)

I only just heard/saw this for the first time, but I feel like white pop singers using gospel choirs in their songs should have ended a long time ago, a terrible cliche.

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12188945_10153207783877844_6062410356947556230_n.png?oh=9785fcf98e798e53395c9630312e3138&oe=56C9071E

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booooo.

(booing "We will no longer play the Spectres song", for clarity yeah?)

IDGI. What is it about the other song that gives Smith's label/management team/whoever a legal claim against the station (however tenuous)?

Elvin Smith is Sam Smith's manager (one of three, anyway). I am faintly baffled that they'd be able to make 6 Music stop playing something that seems to fall within the demographic interests of the station. But if these emails are true, it's kind of a fascinating (and scary) look into how massive franchise tie-in bullshit marketing career-engineering works.

why has someone gone through the pretence of obscuring Bob Shennan's name in those emails

I'm with Tim F. Bob should let Elvin's lawyer come at him with all they've got, as I can't see that it'd'be much.

I privately brainstormed and the only thing I could come up with is if Radio 6 had been (jokingly) presenting the Spectres song as the "official new James Bond song" and - assuming consumer protection laws are roughly the same in the UK as in Australia - Sam Smith's management are saying that's misleading conduct. But it would be the presentation of the song rather than playing it that would potentially be actionable.

And if that was the case and it's not even properly identified in Smith's emails then IDK give up now dude.

(soz for being boring)

STAND DOWN!

UPDATE: The BBC has claimed that the emails are a hoax and the band has removed the FB post.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/sam-smiths-manager-allegedly-bullies-bbc-into-stopping-playing-unofficial-spectre-theme-in-sickening-a6709091.html

Clearly Elvin has told Bob to say it's a hoax.

Baffled this fooled anybody for even a second.

Basically, this sort of thing goes on, but nobody's dumb enough to put it onto emails.

There's no way the 6Music guy would have said "Radio 6" in an email. And that's just for starters.

The Independent story above has been deleted (suspiciously!), here's a similar article.