uhhh, can't get with this at all. do you just mean Meth & Red? because it's one of my favorite grooves on the record.
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:44 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, delete the bobbsey twins and it's totally redeemed imo. But as it is, it's the only track I skip.
btw I am a fan of both MCs but both were well past their prime by this point
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
I have a soft spot for left and right for some reason
Always thought this was a great use of d'angelos voice
http://youtu.be/Z7ErWMKlM3I
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
That was the only full versh of that track I could find plz ignore the hprrible student film
Omg I just watched the whole thing
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:32 (nine years ago) link
meth & red are great on "left and right" any other opinion is objectively wrong
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 December 2014 00:01 (nine years ago) link
I look back at this thread and can't believe I still missed this record in 2011. Granted, I didn't actually pick it up until a coupla years before that after having it on my list for maybe half a decade, but it sure feels like Voodoo clicked with me more than three years ago. One of the pleasures of listening is that some of the best records can sneak up on you like that, and then, holy shit, so that's what everybody was talking about. I think digging into Dilla's oeuvre helped, too - at some point you come to the realization of just how epochal it was for these guys to actually devise a new way to swing, 2 decades after "Rapper's Delight" no less. But that realization isn't just academic - it actually changes the way you hear rhythm, until you wonder how you ever heard the asymmetrical lope of, say, "The Root," as anything but funkier than shit. Once you learn to listen to D's music on its own terms, I don't think you leave that headspace - the new one took about two listens to click.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Monday, 22 December 2014 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, it clicked for me a few years earlier but I had a similar experience with Voodoo. It took me years to wrap my head around it. I'm pretty sure there's some thread here with me going into detail about why it's so overrated but now it's probably one of my top 5 albums ever.
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Monday, 22 December 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, December 20, 2014 5:11 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"Left & Right" single dropped weeks after Blackout!, which is basically a classic (albeit the last classic either of them would make). the song has a bit of a sore thumb quality in the context of the album, though, i go back and forth about how much i like it.
― some dude, Monday, 22 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
xp Great post, Futuristic.
some dude, I'm one of those guys who believes Red never lived up to his potential. You'd have thought after the Hit Squad posse cuts and the singles from Whut...Thee Album that dude was on his way to legendary status (see also: Jeru). Maybe he was never gonna be a Rakim or a Nas or a Biggie, but he was definitely primed to be part of that conversation. At least that's how it seemed back then.
Meth lost me at Tical. That's ground zero for the clownish personality he's cultivated ever since. I don't know, some people watch Seinfeld for Kramer though, what do I know.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
yeah they both had kind of already changed the tone from their earlier careers at that point. i just think Blackout! is great for what it is.
― some dude, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
Redman's career is so many lightyears beyond jeru's! I realize that wasn't the point but it needed saying.
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:34 (nine years ago) link
Blackout is really fun. Def a personal classic
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:35 (nine years ago) link
redman was basically dope from 1990-2000, not too many dudes can spin off a decade of consistent work, if anything i think his rep is underrated now
but he was also huge when i was in high school, like if you were a head or if you were a pop fan he was a big deal
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:42 (nine years ago) link
Yeah otm
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 06:56 (nine years ago) link
fuckin' love red, left and right is great, it's a bummer that he's so unconsidered these daysmeth/red have quietly been dropping four tracks a year for half a decade feels like; this was the last thing that i got heavy intohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaGX6-tnKU4
― MAYBE HE'S NOT THE BEST THIGH SLAPPER IN THE WORLD (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link
Blackout! is easily my favorite Meth album and narrowly my favorite Redman album.
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:45 (nine years ago) link
If it is better than Whut or Dare Iz A Darkside it must be good! Never heard it tbh.
― xelab, Tuesday, 23 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link
man the hi-hats on that track
― virtuoso thigh slapper (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
any thigh slaps on this one?
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
serviceable thigh slapping, nothing virtuosic tho
― no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
ok not interested in this album
― Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link
blackout is a classic, not the best redman imo but still amazing
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 04:21 (nine years ago) link
Futuristic OTM up there- after a solid week of Black Messiah, put on Voodoo and it sounds like Kind of Blue after Bitches' Brew.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 10:28 (nine years ago) link
Good analogy. I did that exact thing yesterday, and yes it does. In both cases I think I might prefer the gnarlier, abstracted later work. But there's no denying the classicness of the earlier one.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 24 December 2014 15:32 (nine years ago) link
Just realised the gap between Voodoo and BM is 2 years longer than between KoB and Bitches Brew - damn.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Friday, 26 December 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
what is that even supposed to mean
― j., Friday, 26 December 2014 14:52 (nine years ago) link
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZd_YyFzPD0
― some dude, Friday, 26 December 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link
It doesn't mean anything except that it took D'Angelo a really long time to release another album. (Not that we're really comparing the two, but Miles released 11 albums, almost all classics, between KoB and BB.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 26 December 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
Sorry, meant that it's sort of strange that, in this age of supposed hyper -compressed attention spans, it's possible for an artist to remain in some way 'current' even with such a protracted absence, whereas, in the time between KoB and BB, as noted, Miles released 11 records, the Beatles had their entire career etc. It's nearly impossible to imagine any artist in popular music disappearing in 1959 and returning with a record in 1973 without it being a big 'comeback/ rediscovery' story (Art Pepper?) whereas with D'Angelo, it's acknowledged in every story that he's been away for a while, but there's no sense of him being an anachronism, a being landed from another era.
― Fine Toothcomb (sonofstan), Friday, 26 December 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
It has been 12 years since the last Peter Gabriel album of original material. If anything, I bet the work habits of D'Angelo and PG are surprisingly similar.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 December 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
well, Peter Gabriel was 40 and had almost a dozen studio albums under his belt before he started releasing music more sporadically (like a lot of rich, middle-aged rock stars do). D'Angelo just turned 40 before releasing his 3rd album.
― some dude, Saturday, 27 December 2014 00:32 (nine years ago) link
Well, tbf, there was also the matter of the drugs and whatnot. Been a few distractions at work. Kind of a shame he wasted so much time.
Just realized D'Angelo and I share a birthday. Same day, at least; he's a year older.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 December 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
the flipside of hyper-compressed attention spans is that there is no narrative of general progress or development
anyway though i just wanted to cosign this
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 December 2014 00:01 (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Saturday, 27 December 2014 10:35 (nine years ago) link
feel like makin love is just so absolutely perfect
― marcos, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:04 (eight years ago) link
Has a single song ever sunk an otherwise 'perfect 10' album like "Left & Right?" Lordy, what a vibe-annihilator.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, December 20, 2014 11:25 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and yea otm, such a bummer, it is just meth & red otherwise it is a great tune, "liar liar set your pussy on fire" smh
― marcos, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link
fuckin dweebs
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:26 (eight years ago) link
iirc D himself wasn't too enthused about their input (and tried to replace them with Q-Tip but was even less satisfied with his efforts),
― Dej & the Fommly Loaf (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 December 2014 18:40 Bookmark
with all due respect to d this only makes me love it more
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
every song on this perfect album is perfect
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link
Watch D’Angelo & The Roots Rehearse A Very Funky Take Of “The Line” For Roots Picnic NYC
― PappaWheelie V, Monday, 3 October 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
D'artist list.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 03:02 (seven years ago) link
Is this the best album of the 21st century so far? Maybe.
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:01 (five years ago) link
It’s a contender for sure
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:03 (five years ago) link
this is my favourite album of all time and i can't fathom being someone who thinks of it as a dud
― monotony, Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:19 (five years ago) link
this album only really opened up for me earlier this year but it's truly incredible
― ufo, Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:31 (five years ago) link
It can take some time to open up to you, yeah - take a look at my first comment in this thread and laugh
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Saturday, 1 December 2018 08:54 (five years ago) link
every song on this perfect album is perfect― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 22 December 2015 19:28 (two years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
correct
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
(Tracer is never going to want to make out with us!)― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 15:06 (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
..rong?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 1 December 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link
uhmm. . . .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2ihpqq4wKE
https://www.discogs.com/Amerigo-Gazaway-DAngelo-Variation-Of-Voodoo-A-Tribute-To-DAngelo/release/15096894
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 30 August 2020 16:30 (four years ago) link
anyone watching the verzuz? anyone else watching experiencing some connectivity issues?
― little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Sunday, 28 February 2021 03:06 (three years ago) link
This album sounds incredible. The production is superb. I think he was still growing as a writer though. Still learning about songwriting dynamics as opposed to great grooves and mood, ambience, musicianship, etc. Weird fact I learned in an Eddie Kramer interview was that electric lady went very quiet after the period that all the soulauarian guys recorded all their albums there.
― candyman, Sunday, 28 February 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link