Nicki Minaj - The Pink Print (2014)

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"the night is still young" is pretty go as far as dr. luke/nicki collabos go... the songwriting unfortunately isn't that great but the production is a nifty kinda john hughes soundtrack thing

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

pretty good

J0rdan S., Friday, 12 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link

I can't believe anyone let OJ Da Juiceman happen

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link

my favorite part of that is how he only raps 12 bars but 3 of them start with "young jewman"

some dude, Friday, 12 December 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link

he also drops "10 rings on like i'm playin' b-ball"!!! was this the rough draft for his legendary xxl freshman verse???

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

This video reminded me Lil B's flow is OJ's

ANU (sisilafami), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

nicki cracking up at the into to OJ's verse is amusing

a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 December 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

OJ Da Juiceman is my hero.

longneck, Saturday, 13 December 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link

truffle butter is def a jam, wayne sounds better than he has in like min 4 yrs, also on 'after that' from the future tape

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link

so ppl are picking up the bonus edition version of this album in europe only to find that "anaconda" has been swapped out for... its instrumental.

just about sums up this whole album campaign

― prolego, Friday, December 12, 2014 12:26 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol @ this

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

deeply regret i couldnt have experienced that mysteriously genius anticlimax first hand, mightve drawn me into some ineffable genius of the pinkprint fugue

r|t|c, Saturday, 13 December 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link

so ppl are picking up the bonus edition version of this album in europe only to find that "anaconda" has been swapped out for... its instrumental.

incredible messiness

lex pretend, Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:47 (nine years ago) link

Hahahaha the instrumental for Anaconda is just 4 bars of Baby Got Back right?

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

like a vine

deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 14 December 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link

looped for the very first time

deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 14 December 2014 23:11 (nine years ago) link

truffle butter is def a jam, wayne sounds better than he has in like min 4 yrs, also on 'after that' from the future tape

― johnny crunch, Friday, December 12, 2014 8:07 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the original kid heat record >>>

deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 14 December 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

This video reminded me Lil B's flow is OJ's

― ANU (sisilafami), Friday, December 12, 2014 2:01 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true

deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 14 December 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

obviously "wamables" is decent

the further away any given nicki minaj track is from the main album in 2014 the better it is

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

The best stuff save Truffle Butter and Shanghai is on the "proper" album.* The run from Get On Your Knees to Anaconda is great and easily the best on any of her albums.

*does this idea of the standard edition being the proper album and the deluxe being regarded as optional bonuses even have any value in 2014 when major label artists push deluxe editions over the standard, the standards routinely sell less than the deluxe edition and deluxes routinely contain great tracks anyway?

Greer, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

you'd seriously take

get on your knees/feeling myself/only/want some more/four door aventador/favorite/buy a heart/trini dem girls/anaconda

over

roman holiday/come on a cone/i am your leader/beez in the trap/hov lane/roman reloaded

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:42 (nine years ago) link

"yes i'm going to celebrate the run of songs on the record with 'only' in the middle of it"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 18:50 (nine years ago) link

"Only" is the only dark mark in that run and I like it better than I do Roman Holiday, so yeah, Pinkprint wins that one.

Greer, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

lol

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

this album sort of typifies the risks in judging music according to its political importance. the p4k review was entirely accurate in analysing what nicki was trying to do on it and why presenting herself as a human being with emotions is in theory important, but you could tell the reviewer still didn't like it much (most of the songs she praised were the pre-pinkprint material and the bonus tracks). the idea of a nicki minaj powerful enough to be vulnerable is a tremendous one but that doesn't mean she's actually done it well.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link

i think the review presented a consistent POV that is pretty near mine, although the grade probably coulda been lower and better matched the content but w/e numbers

some dude, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

lol

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:13 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cute!

Greer, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link

Yeah agreed. She likes it more than I do but it was well written and well thought and right now I'm more worried about underrating it than overrating it. The jezebel one was over the top though.

longneck, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

the p4k review is great, agreed

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link

just throwing this out there but i've been wondering for some time if the marginalization of black women in pop music has led to an increasing pressure on the three that are hugely successful and visible (beyoncé, nicki and rihanna) to be politically important and represent and evaluate what it means to be a (black) woman in the industry and society today in their music. beyoncé and nicki have evidently grappled with these things for years but there feels like more scrutiny than ever for them to live up to certain expectations placed upon them.

of course in general it's great there's more female reviewers writing and discussing these things notwithstanding.

prolego, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

yeah concur with all praise for the pitchfork review, meaghan garvey is awesome

uxorious gazumping (monotony), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link

another p good review, by lindsay zoladz at vulture http://www.vulture.com/2014/12/pinkprint-is-a-badass-breakup-album.html

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link

molly lambert calling it nicki's erotica: http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/nicki-minaj-pinkprint/

prolego, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:11 (nine years ago) link

yeeeeaaaahhh that one is a bit of a reach i think

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link

i guess both albums' lead singles shamelessly jack a rap song's beat and sing/rhyme over it

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link

garvey and zoladz both seem to be praising the idea of what the pinkprint is - and i agree w/zoladz that nicki's contradictions are her strengths and entirely agree w/her analysis of PF:RR - and the idea of her emotional honesty but neither of them quite get to defending it as pop music

lex pretend, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 21:44 (nine years ago) link

i've kinda turned around on this and like a lot more of it than i did on first listen, altho you'd def have to cut the blatant sop-to-radio songs (pills/night is still young/bed of lies/only) & swap for the bonus tracks (or loosies like chi-raq, etc.) to have a truly dope fuckin album

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link

(anaconda can stay, i'm over the h8 on anaconda. whatever.)

franch montana (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 22:08 (nine years ago) link

So... uh.... What's all this about?
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/525230/nicki-minaj-producer-goes-in-on-theshitprints-flop

longneck, Friday, 19 December 2014 07:27 (nine years ago) link

they spent a year promoting the album and the first week sales are pretty bad, compared to her other albums, compared to other rap albums released this year by supposedly smaller artists (J. Cole, Rick Ross).

christmas with the canks (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2014 07:40 (nine years ago) link

She was on inside the nba tonight. Her standing next to shaq was O__o

no but seriously im not a dick like that (Spottie), Friday, 19 December 2014 07:44 (nine years ago) link

jaywan inc is a troll btw. 100% fraud

deej loaf (D-40), Friday, 19 December 2014 08:34 (nine years ago) link

i know nothing about the veracity of those tweets, i'm just saying they didn't set out at the beginning of this long-ass album campaign to do 150k the first week.

christmas with the canks (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2014 09:40 (nine years ago) link

if she had dropped the album 6 months ago out of nowhere it would've done 500k week 1 probably

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 12:50 (nine years ago) link

I imagine it will get a bump next week when America gets christmas cash and iTunes cards

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

at no point could this album have gotten close to 500k, but it definitely would've sold more with a fast release when "Anaconda" was peaking

christmas with the canks (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link

it's even weirder because even though the release time was pretty protracted, she ended up with one of the biggest hits of the year + "bang bang", and it's not exactly like "pills n potions" was a flop. & "only" is gonna go top 10 too, probably.

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 13:16 (nine years ago) link

the pace of the campaign was weird. "Anaconda" dropping kind of abruptly killed "Pills"'s radio momentum but then "Anaconda" ended up not really doing much after the video blew up -- missed the top 20 on pop AND urban radio.

christmas with the canks (some dude), Friday, 19 December 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

yeah -- i guess it will be interesting to see over the next few years if songs that have chart positions primarily inflated by viral videos (without being specifically viral in nature) correlate to disappointing sales for an album

J0rdan S., Friday, 19 December 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link

I'm kinda sorta getting the feeling that this whole crying-on-the-radio relatable/confessional Nicki thing is a huge & desperate marketing ploy trying to counter all of this stuff.

longneck, Friday, 19 December 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

wayne's verse on "only" is so incredibly terrible

you say tomato/i say imago (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 December 2014 15:57 (nine years ago) link


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