They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread

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Was all the programming by Glenn?

sounds like it, right? It has that demo quality.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 December 2014 13:05 (nine years ago) link

"Living In Darkness": Woah, where'd this come from? Why didn't we get a whole album of synth jams?* The bridge does feel out of place, but I can hang with the coda. Glenn's falsetto is becoming never not funny. Another track that would sound good in Hot Tub Time Machine II: The Next Day.

*Just noticed that The Allnighter was in stores a good five months before Building The Perfect Beast--Frey actually was the vanguard for a moment.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link

Man, is there nothing good in store until Don's next album?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link

Well, yeah. (Although I think we've already had Peak Henley--from what I recall albums 3 & 4 are heavy on the cranky and turgid.)

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link

Eh, End of Innocence is not lacking in quality. Turgid, cranky quality, perhaps, but look who we're dealing with here.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link

the Magnum PI years. are we going straight into the next Glenn, or are you going to switch back to End of the Innocence (I think Glenn's next one is first, chronologically)

col, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 14:30 (nine years ago) link

End of the Innocence will sound like "Hey Ya."

Anyone surprised by often The Allnighter is merely serviceable instead of dire?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

yeah, apart from the 2 body blows of "Better in the USA" and "Sexy Girl," it's a decent, mediocre mid-Eighties album.

col, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

"New Love": I like the keyboards. If the Eagles had managed to limp into the mid-80s, this song is exactly how I'd imagine they would sound. Is "Divorced Dad Rock" a thing? This would be a good example of the form: It doesn"t really 'Rock'; lyrics about "starting again"; probably sounds good on the Bose in an '86 Corvette.

As for the album, Alfred OTM "serviceable > dire" pretty much sums it up. Frey is finally getting out of the shadow of the Eagles, and while, true, he does fall flat often, we are hearing a fair amount of risks being taken that wouldn't have been otherwise. I do think it's telling that the standout track here is the one that breaks most with the romantic subjects he was mostly occupying his (and our) time with.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 03:06 (nine years ago) link

next time he'll be soul searchin'

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 03:39 (nine years ago) link

and getting Harry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eysYg_2ybxk

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 December 2014 05:44 (nine years ago) link

awwwwwriiiiight back to Don and his second famous solo hit:

"The End of the Innocence"

http://www.overduereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Henley.jpg

http://vimeo.com/34856033

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:16 (nine years ago) link

ah, Don's "Sarah Lawrence English professor" era, looks-wise.

give him credit: Don had a Bowie-like ability in the '80s to lock in on whatever was hitting and pull his own version off. So here, the genteel late '80s AOR of Bruce Hornsby, recruited to produce & all but play the piano line of "The Way It Is," and its self-pitying, "whatever happened to the Sixties" mood cued perfectly for Reagan's departure, as if commissioned by CNN for a decade retrospective.

col, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:49 (nine years ago) link

and another sexy video but with falling leaves and shit

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:51 (nine years ago) link

David Fincher!

col, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

also, Wayne Shorter guest star spot ("top this, Sting")

col, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link

the peak of his flirtation with pop, right? He played on a lot of eighties-era Joni tracks

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link

cast list for this album is insane: Don seemed to have hired anyone on the charts in '87-'88

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_Innocence_%28album%29#Personnel

col, Thursday, 11 December 2014 17:59 (nine years ago) link

It baffles me that this outsold Building a Perfect Beast.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 December 2014 18:00 (nine years ago) link

Well, it was his first release in the CD era, and was a bit more of a singles monster. It also landed in the last big wave of old fogies being successful before the soundscan/grunge/hip hop takeover.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 11 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

I think it makes sense - Winwood, Clapton's Journeyman, the Wilburys - a great time for Henley to get some of that for himself

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 11 December 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link

Wait.
No "You Belong to the City"? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the order?

mr.raffles, Friday, 12 December 2014 04:26 (nine years ago) link

I had the same question 'til I checked and it's way up there in the thread.

With "The End of the Innocence" it's fun to imagine Fincher making Henley do 90 takes.

bit of a singles monster (Eazy), Friday, 12 December 2014 05:50 (nine years ago) link

I owned this on 45. I gotta say, I'm not crazy about it but the autumnal mood fits Henley's lyrics, which are fairly precise for once.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2014 12:06 (nine years ago) link

I can imagine Don telling co-writers Kootch and Stan Lynch, "Alright, guys, I need a manifesto."

Sounds like Phil Collins-produced Eric Clapton.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2014 12:13 (nine years ago) link

wow, look at that leonine mane. corporate hippie in excelsis

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 12 December 2014 13:20 (nine years ago) link

link goes to "I Will Not Go Quietly!" But "How Bad Do You Want It" is also Clapton-style yuppie beer commercial stuff.

from the YT comments:

"MrGenXer
1 year ago

They're coming out with a movie about Don Henley's life and Mark Wahlberg is going to play Henley!"

this cannot be true

col, Friday, 12 December 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link

oh damn I screwed up. I'll change it in a new york minute.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link

HENLEY: THE PONYTAIL PERIOD

"The End of The Innocence": Some nice atmospherics, very much his Borg-like assimilation of 'thoughtful' Adult Contemporary/AOR (Hornsby, Phil Collins' "Another Day In Paradise", that ilk). Melody's kinda same-y, of course we're supposed to listen to words--everything in service of the words--which feel a little generic to me. It's sort of a fusion of ideas from "TBOS" and "Sunset Grill", but lacking.

The Video: A less artful and discreetly symbolic take on the clip for "TBOS" The Fincher involvement makes me think of a Henley taking over for Affleck in Gone Girl for some reason. Best Part: Hitchhiker Henley getting snubbed by the hottie in the vintage Corvette.

"I Will Not Go Quietly": AXL! Wonder how that meeting of the minds went? Must admit, I got swept up in this, what with all the shifts and callbacks it goes. May be a hair too long, but for the most part he keeps it interesting, mainly by not exactly 'rocking' or being 'metal', but by making wayward cuts and pastings from both.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 December 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

OK here's "How Bad Do You Want It"

http://www.overduereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Henley-and-Axl.png

http://youtu.be/AqUmCCM0uws

(the image goes with yesterday's but I couldn't resist)

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 December 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link

Ugh: Henley's going with Frey's David Letterman's band sax .

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 December 2014 13:28 (nine years ago) link

Don looks like a "hip" divorced dad playing drums in his ne'er-do-well teenage son's first band

col, Saturday, 13 December 2014 15:37 (nine years ago) link

Forgive this link, which is gross on multiple levels, not least for the Don the Mon reference around the 6:30 mark, where the notorious douche in charge pushes his point too far and Patty Griffin just gives him this perplexed wtf look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2urQgb-wkE

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 December 2014 21:22 (nine years ago) link

"How Bad Do You Want It?": This song is very nearly 1989 in song form. The sax hook is somewhat grating, but maybe that's the encode. <checks grooveshark> No wait, it's in the production. Some pitch shiting thing. As Glenn rips from our Donster go, I'll stick with "Man With A Mission".

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link

After "She's On the Zoom" and "The Boys of Summer," my favorite Henley single. He navigates through the self-disgust and disgust -- signaled by the octave jumps in his vocals -- like a pro.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 14 December 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

"New York Minute"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/New_York_Minute.jpg

vimeo.com/76748289

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link

boy do I loathe this song. Is a New York minute approximate to an eon in real time?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link

I've missed two heavy Henleys: apologies. Will try to listen to 'em later. But I already know I hate the ironically named "New York Minute"

col, Monday, 15 December 2014 23:33 (nine years ago) link

"The Last Worthless Evening": This is a good example of Adult Contemporary--clearly a song for older people, but not too long in the tooth. I like some of the lyrical detail ("it's been two years for me"), and the chorus is some kinda wish fulfillment.. It doesn't need to be 6 minutes long.

The Video: Video Diva Don with the wind machine blowing those long locks. Getting a serious Rick Von Sloneker vibe from this visual era of the Donster. I can even see him reviewing the video later, going over the actresses: "Hit it...Hit it...Dyke...Passed, Frey Hit it already...Pulled A Train".

"New York Minute": Now That"s What I Call A Portentous Opening! This is like some humorless Billy Joel pastiche. I do like the 'cinematic' sax break.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

The song is rumored to be about actress Michelle Pfeiffer. Henley himself tells the story to concertgoers that he was at a Hollywood party in the late 1980s when, from across the room, he spied the beautiful blond "It girl" of Hollywood. She had just broken up with her husband and was sitting on a couch smoking a cigarette next to her recent co-star, Jack Nicholson. Henley says that he, like every man in the room, wanted to meet her. As he tells it, he walked up to the woman and asked if he could bum a cigarette. Without ever looking up at him she thrust a cigarette in his direction. As he slinked away, he says Nicholson chortled, "Well played, Henley."

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

http://www.coverjunkie.com/uploads/1289039937.jpg
"Well played, Henley. Well played."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link

MADRAS RETURNS!

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 16 December 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

all right, need to catch up:

"Last Worthless Evening": yeah, this is the gem of this album, if it comes off a bit like Richard Marx made good. Goes on a verse too long, not helped by the "time keeps tick-ing" filler bit. Don's hair flip in the video is charming.

"New York Minute": Christ, why are all these things like 7 minutes long? Curse of the CD age. Yeah, the intro is pure Billy Joel-esque fantasia and also (calling back to an old thread), The Fox-era Elton John. Verse melody reminds me of Dana Carvey's "Choppin' Broccoli" bit. Chorus takes 2 minutes to show up and just sits there. Well played, Henley.

"Shangri-La": starts out mildly weird, as if Don's heard Janet Jackson and stole a couple ideas; refrain is grim but catchy---fear I'm going to be humming it in the grocery store later

col, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link

"Shangri-La": Nice groove on the verses, let down by a dopey placeholder-feeling chorus. The title comes off better on the coda. Overall this feels like filler.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link

in the wild: a battered copy of No Fun Aloud in a 99 cent bin outside the local record store in Northampton

col, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link

Did you go for it

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link


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