people would have guessed 'money' and her reason was 'money'
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
but what would the raccoons have guessed?
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday
and thats as valid a reason as any other, no?
― saer, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link
raccoons aside, people aren't really attacking TS for her decision here.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:01 (nine years ago) link
people who make art for a living should do whatever they want to maximize their earnings
it's slightly disingenuous for her to pretend like her situation is comparable to anybody else's though
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
she is like a painter. a painter named Thomas Kinkade.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:12 (nine years ago) link
Seems like there are separate problems of whether Spotify hurts your sales vs whether you can fight the tide.
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
you can break that down even more when you consider the option of not putting everything on spotify. there's not "fighting the tide" and there's putting your kids in the backseat and driving into the ocean.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
you still don't actually have much leverage when you do that unless you are taylor swift and can hold back the single most in demand album of the year. when consumers have a sea of hundreds of thousands of things to choose from, everything is devalued. how many individual books could disappear from the NYPL without anyone noticing?
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
I kind of dont agree with that, the strength of the library is the library itself not any one book, and priviledging any one book or song or artist is ossifying for me, taking the tree out of the forest and saying look at this one tree. It doesnt devalue a tree that there are other trees.
Anyway for me its not so much about what taylor swift does or doesnt do, thats her own business, its the entitlement of those that feel they are somehow owed the music they want in the format they want
― saer, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link
This thing is up now: https://www.spotify-yearinmusic.com/index.html
― glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
Top artists: 1) Steely Dan 2) Future Islands 3) Paramore 4) Owen Pallett 5) Beck. Lots of ILX thread influence there...
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
more like whitify amiwite?
― 18th Century Celebrity WS of Shame (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
curious what the metric was for the personal top 5 albums - was it number of tracks from an album? times you played the whole thing? the five albums i got suggested there might not have been five albums i played all the way through this year
― da croupier, Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
hey glenn can you tell me how off my numbers are? i.e. 40K albums = 90% of streams?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 December 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
I think you're overestimating the dominance of the hits. Paul Lamere looked at then-current numbers in some detail last year:
http://musicmachinery.com/2013/11/23/revisiting-the-long-tail/
The top ~200k-ish songs at the time accounted for only 80% of plays, and longitudinal data suggested that listening was getting less concentrated over time, not more.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 December 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
33K minutes of listening time this year for me. Thought it would be more but I'll trust their numbers.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 4 December 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
53.784k for me. I apparently average 5 hrs every Wednesday.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 December 2014 03:48 (nine years ago) link
ha, glenn did you create all of the genre playlists?
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 December 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link
Yes, in the sense that I wrote the code that produces them.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 December 2014 03:53 (nine years ago) link
awesome. does your code generate the "play it forward" list as well? is this the first year for "your year in music"? maybe I just missed it previously. anyway, it's great and better than last.fm in many ways. It'd be cool if even more stats became available in the future.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 December 2014 03:58 (nine years ago) link
No, I didn't do the Play It Forward thing, and I don't know how it works. Mine was odd.
They did a less-elaborate thing last year, before we got acquired. And yes, more stats would be cool. Stay tuned.
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 December 2014 04:02 (nine years ago) link
Haha - according to Spotify my favorite genres are Warm Drone, Drone, Ambient, Glitch... and Freak Folk.
My top two songs of the year are Angel Olsen's "Unfucktheworld"... and "Monster Mash". Thanks to my son on that last one.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 December 2014 06:19 (nine years ago) link
where does this info live?
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:00 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't get the page to work, assumed it was premium only or some side effect of running Noscript on Firefox
― sleeve, Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:01 (nine years ago) link
I think that only some of the stats are limited to premium, so it is likely the latter.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:03 (nine years ago) link
googled my way there. 60k minutes listening. my most listened songs weirdly swayed by doing singles jukebox and with the music i listen to when i jog; way more pop and rap represented than what i remember listening to this year.
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:17 (nine years ago) link
snootie wild "made me" as #1 song of the year all too accurate tho
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 December 2014 07:18 (nine years ago) link
I had to turn Ghostery off to load the year in music page, fair to assume it doesn't play well with blockers in general
My top genres are art rock, r-neg-b, experimental, balearic, new wave. Couldn't crack the 40k-minutes barrier, maybe next year!
― death in Skegness (seandalai), Thursday, 4 December 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link
31% grave wave - don't know what that is exactly, but sounds about right to me
― sosmix klopp (NickB), Thursday, 4 December 2014 10:25 (nine years ago) link
It worked better for me in Safari than in Chrome
my total was just under 25k minutes
Top 5 artists and albums are amusingly inaccurate, unless maybe I've forgotten leaving that Charlie Christian Genius of the Electric Guitar album on repeat for a few days ... almost none of the albums I listened to multiple times show up, while others I played once make the list
The top songs list seems slightly more representative but omits most of the tracks I had in heavy rotation in the last two months, a period during which I increased my use of Spotify quite a bit
not really complaining -- this is a neat feature and I look forward to geeking out on more stats in the future
― Brad C., Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:26 (nine years ago) link
i want to lodge a protest about corny indie fuxxor not being a genre in this
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:43 (nine years ago) link
― death in Skegness (seandalai), donderdag 4 december 2014 10:44 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Same here. Could not get it to work. Had to turn off AdBlocker, Ghostery, Disconnect and Privacy Badger for it to work lol
6k listening, mostly pop and hiphop, which indeed is what I use Spotify for most. My listening is scattered over Spotify, iTunes and vinyl.
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Thursday, 4 December 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
minehttp://i.imgur.com/Y9mMQc1.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/9u81R8Q.png
I listen mostly to my vinyl and cd's now but I still get good value from Spotify Premium but sadly Soundrop and all the other apps are getting killed off on dec 31st.
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:08 (nine years ago) link
Most of the time I listened to my starred playlist, 2,390 songs on random. I skip a lot, but I never skip a NOFX or Blink 182 song. Judge me if you wish. Also lol @ Sixteen Tons showing up in my most played song.
Artists1. NOFX2. Blink 1823. Chiddy Bang4. Caribou5. Kris Menace
Albums1. Infinity + 1 - A-Trak2. Idiosyncrasies - Kris Menace3. War on Errorism - NOFX4. Boston - Boston5. Pump Up The Valuum - NOFX
Songs1. Idiots Are Taking Over - NOFX2. Do This Thing - Blänk3. Take Two Placebos And Call Me Lame - NOFX4. Kaili - Caribou5. M+M's - Blink 1826. Backwards Walk - Frightened Rabbit7. Mattersville - NOFX8. Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford9. Dammit - Blink 18210. Little Girl - MSTRKRFT Edition - Death From Above 1979
SeasonsWinter - Frightened RabbitSpring - Kris MenaceSummer - The WhoAutumn - Caribou
89% on mobile16,520 minutes of listeningMost active day - Friday 2 hours average
― Jeff, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:23 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0
― Jeff, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:24 (nine years ago) link
huh what now about the apps being killed off? which apps?
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link
all apps afaik
― Cosmic Slop, Thursday, 4 December 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
Glenn?
Right, we're turning off the old Apps API for building things inside of the desktop client, mostly because that approach never worked for mobile, which now accounts for a huge percentage of both listeners and listening time. There's a post about it here:
https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/apps/
The new APIs let you build both web and mobile apps.
[I had nothing to do with this decision, I'm just answering the question.]
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 4 December 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link
but...but...but the BLUE NOTE APPP!!!!!!
― Raccoon Tanuki, Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:00 (nine years ago) link
Jeff I wouldn't have been surprised if that song showed up at my house too. It's a great song! It's on my country playlist that I listen to all the time (though I guess that's on iTunes and not on Spotify.)
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 December 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
75K minutes for me. For some reason it says I listened to Mike Adams at His Honest Weight and Mutual Benefit more than anything else. Sort-of surprised. I did listen to those albums quite a bit, but I'm surprised that those were my top albums.
If anyone cares, here's my Top 100
― schwantz, Thursday, 4 December 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
actually, there were these things called magazines and "industry trades"... --da croupier
Right, I worked in a library with music magazines and industry trades for seven years. But that information isn't free to anyone.
What I meant is that I can get all sorts of statistical information about who listens to a particular artist or genre - and what they listen to alongside it - just by browsing a site. It's not the sort of information a magazine would publish because it doesn't conform to market stereotypes.
It's important to me because I hope the younger generations will not experience to mean-spiritedness and prejudice and melodrama over music taste that I experienced as a kid.
― Threat Assessment Division (I M Losted), Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
And if you are trying to gauge effectiveness of some type of marketing campaign, you can do it, even as a small band, which is cool. Ok, definitely not "cool," but useful.
― schwantz, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:52 (nine years ago) link
I'm really enjoying my "play it forward" playlist for what it's worth...
― skip, Thursday, 4 December 2014 18:56 (nine years ago) link
I lol'ed when I started mine blindly and pulse demon-era merzbow started blastin my brains
― original bgm, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
according to spotify i listened to 29% freak folk, 20% pop, 19% reggae, 19% roots reggae, and 16% world - i didn't realize i listened to so much reggae??
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
my genre breakdown was 100% prefix-rock, which was funny considering more than 50% of my top ten tracks would be qualified as NOT rock (i.e., bruno mars, robin thicke, pitbull, etc)
― da croupier, Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
as cute as the review is i think i still prefer last.fm
― Mordy, Thursday, 4 December 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link