Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

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okay, now i'm gonna sound like a total country rock nerd, but benny gallagher and graham lyle were in mcguinness flint with, um, mcguiness and flint, and i actually like their albums better. which they recorded under the name...wait for it...gallagher and lyle!

scott seward, Friday, 29 August 2008 18:53 (seventeen years ago)

I always get them mixed up with McKendree Spring. I don't know why. I 've never heard either of them.

Stormy Davis, Friday, 29 August 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

I've heard both bands! see, my brother is wrong about me not hearing things.

scott seward, Friday, 29 August 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

mckendree spring were more jazzyprog. plus: ELECTRIC VIOLA. but good too. the first album is really good.

scott seward, Friday, 29 August 2008 21:00 (seventeen years ago)

I second the Michael Nesmith rec. from way above (from four years ago). I recently stumbled upon Nevada Fighter (from 1971). It's really shockingly great and, like everyone says, nothing at all like the Monkees. I didn't even know he went country. Per wikipedia he along with Gram Parsons "is considered one of the pioneers of country-rock." Is he actually considered this? I knows I don't believes everything I read on Wikipedia and I've never heard that before.

Jacobo Rock, Friday, 29 August 2008 21:06 (seventeen years ago)

so have we really not talked about William Truckaway yet on this thread ?? His album has been in heavy rotation for the last year or so since I picked it up (thanks Neil.) It's fucking amazing , mebbe not so much country, but certainly some sort of 'post-psych' poppy folk, or maybe poppy 'post-folk' 70s Psych ,,, not sure .. but the album ("Breakaway") completely rules. Why is NMH the only champ at this point?? but as always he picks a winner

Mountain Bus? we never talked about 'em ? I *finally* got the Akarma 2lp .. the mofo went out of print a while back. Oh sure, I had that EVA cd for ages... but I wanted to hear the *unreleased* material for the best private Dead-fan band of the 60s. Cambridge would be the 70s, right? their album totally rules too, all thanks to Skot.

but god, this Mountain Bus album ..

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 30 August 2008 07:49 (seventeen years ago)

Mountain Bus "Rider" >>>>>> Dead "Rider" ... **EXCEPT** for those early '67/'68 Riders before the stupid China Cat medley ... back when Jerry was a completely amphetamine fueled strafe-bomber .. THEN, yes, the Dead's "Rider" was of course better ...

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 30 August 2008 08:05 (seventeen years ago)

i actually think the cambridge album is perfect. every song is great. is there a cambridge reissue?????? i was actually gonna put it up on this thread as an MP3, cuz i didn't think most people had heard it.

scott seward, Saturday, 30 August 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)

Hehe, I went bought two Shawn Phillips lps yesterday: Second Contribution and Furthermore. Haven't listened to 'em yet tho.

C. Grisso/McCain, Saturday, 30 August 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.gregsgrooves.com/imagesm-r/russellleon_carney.jpg

Not from Cali, but since Leon was mentioned up thread I thought I'd throw this out there. This is one weird-ass album. It's got swampy rn'b stomps like Out in the Woods, cracked psych ramblings like Acid Annapolis, and some very classic songs such as This Masquerade, Tightrope, Roller Derby, Magic Mirror. Not all of the thing works, I find Acid Annapolis hard to sit thorough, but enough does click that you ought to check it out.

It's one of my favorite covers too.

leavethecapital, Saturday, 30 August 2008 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

So yet anotherJohn Phillips comp hit the racks a few weeks ago. The core of this one is original mixes of tracks from Pay, Pack, and Follow, his lost Stones-assisted set. I never got around to picking up the original reissue, so I have no grounds to base it on vs. the new /old mixes. Anybody heard it?

BTW, the British branch of Rhino Encore recently dropped new editions of Bobby Charles (his Band-assisted lp from '72) and the first JD Souther album. I got the Bobby Charles album online for about 10 bucks. It's pretty good, perhaps a tad bit too mellow. I need to listen to it some more before I make a final judgement.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

Speaking of ex-Mamas & Papas, I just got turned on to this Denny Doherty LP called "Whatcha Gonna Do." It's some great country rock. Less of a wasted/decadent vibe than "Wolfking."

ian, Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:50 (seventeen years ago)

I'm loving all this Sutherland Bros stuff. Just bought Lifeboat on ebayy, I think I like Dream Kid more though.

an abduction of a guy into a weird artsy world... (wilter), Wednesday, 1 October 2008 04:53 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

be there or be square:

Jim Kweskin and Geoff Muldaur
Katharine Cornell Theater
Saturday, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:00 PM

http://webmail.earthlink.net/wam/MsgAttachment?msgid=54207&attachno=1

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

special appearance by the ghost of mel lyman!

scott seward, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

who says he's dead? ;)

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 16 October 2008 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

no maria no credibility.

ian, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

Rilo Kiley frontwoman Jenny Lewis is totally into this vibe on her fine new 2nd solo album, Acid Tongue

mottdeterre, Thursday, 16 October 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Anybody know anything about "Bill Dave & Mary" and their record Transition?

-- BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, July 27, 2007 4:39 AM

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what i got is HOOS for the capitalism (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 November 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

bought Frog City today. it is fucking awesome!

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 2 November 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

meant to post a link to this mix here and forgot to:

Skot's Sexy 70's Mix For Sailors, Searchers, and Seers

just cuz i think there is some crossover and such with this thread. for instance, the Sand song i put on this mix. totally hard to pick one song from their album cuz they all rule. great mix of poco/countryrock and ruralprogjam/westcoastjam stuff a la gypsy/wishbone ash/etc. (sand album the only album i own that is a two album set with two one-sided records.)

(um, this sand not being the krautrock one or the cool krautelectrojazz one that with that great album on souljazz. this one being the hippie one with a picture of a sandy sandwich on the cover of their album.)

scott seward, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 02:59 (seventeen years ago)

okay, "aereoplane" is growing on me serious style.

"he used to bring home from HIGH SCHOOL"

ian, Thursday, 13 November 2008 06:34 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Scott you HAVE to hear this I know you will love it

I was shocked at how great it is, honestly. Been playing it nonstop.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 16 December 2008 16:25 (seventeen years ago)

scott where are youuuuuuuuu

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:46 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

Has anybody else heard Pat Boone's Departure from '69? It's his "down w/the young people" baroque troubadour folk album (covers of Fred Neil, John Stewart, Biff Rose, Loudermilk and TIM BUCKLEY) produced by Jerry Yester (?) w/LA session cats all over the place. I found copy at a flea market recently and gave a listen yesterday. It's pretty good, albeit a little overproduced (particularly on one of the Stewarts--"Never Going Back"--but that's the track that skips on mine so hey.) The Buckley one--"Song of The Siren"--is great, aside from a little pirate talk from Pat at the beginning. AMG sez the sets never been on cd.

During the same trip I also picked up the two 70s efforts from Austin's Greezy Wheels (s/t aka "Juz loves dem ol' Greezy Wheels" & Radio Radials) which fit under this threads banner quite well in a jazzy sort of way.

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:12 (seventeen years ago)

i have a greezy wheels album, but i don't even remember what it sounds like. i'll try it again.

so, i made a tape sung to the tune of this thread, but i just gotta find it and put it on the interweb. a mix of stuff that i've ranted about on here.

scott seward, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:59 (seventeen years ago)

please do!

Also, The Flame album (that Shakey posted above) is still available for d/l and it's definitely worth a listen.

otm in new york (G00blar), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

^^^haha I was just about to ask...

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 April 2009 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

i will get to it. i've been busy!

scott seward, Friday, 3 April 2009 17:44 (seventeen years ago)

what do you have a store to run or something

This Board is a Prison on Planet Bullshit (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 April 2009 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

i think this is one of the best ever ILM threads. sentiment expressed in the OP sums it up basically wrt my interest in this stuff now. so weird how i know that i've been exposed to this stuff before but ignored/hated on/passed over it for all these years. fortunately here is this goldmine of a thread for me to search through

mark cl, Tuesday, 21 April 2009 23:54 (seventeen years ago)

word i've been fishing around in this thread lately too

i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

one of the funnest things about having a music addiction is getting bored with everything i've ever listened to before and forcing myself to open up and listen to music that i thought i'd never listen to (country, commercial hip hop & pop, disco, soft rock) or stuff that i've always known about but skimmed over.

^^kinda one of the truer things ever said on ilm

macarooni (omar little), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

yup

mark cl, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:50 (seventeen years ago)

what i like about jax and also ian is those dudes are so invaluable in their knowledge of music and so generous in their appreciation. the most positive music dudes on the board imo.

macarooni (omar little), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:52 (seventeen years ago)

n/h

macarooni (omar little), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 00:53 (seventeen years ago)

I've been getting into that Phil Sawyer album which is on teh blogs atm (i guess due to it being reissued)

May be that i'm more inclined to get into it coz it's AUSSIE, but there's some gorgeous stuff on it imo.

wilter, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

cool!

funny thing is i already have a whole lot of this stuff. couple years ago i went on a few trips w/ buddies to some library surplus stores and bought TONS of it, pretty much all of which has sat on my shelves until recently. love love love how so much of this stuff is widely available and cheap

mark cl, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 01:12 (seventeen years ago)

listening to ned doheny debut on asylum. i guess they were hoping for another jackson browne. it's nice though. VERY light and mellow el lay southern/folk/jazz/rock. very california.

― scott seward, Sunday, 6 January 2008 22:37 (1 year ago)

liking this lately.

m coleman, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 09:49 (seventeen years ago)

have i talked about that Robert Byrne album on here? Blame It On The Night? doesn't exactly fit here, but I think people here would dig it. Byrne was a big country songwriter (who died not that long ago i think of an OD or something) and this album was his one solo shot. Came out in 1979 and was almost immediately pulled by Mercury. unfortunately, the only cd issue of it is a pricy japanese version. their westcoast love knows no bounds. and the byrne album is big in their canon. it skirts/invades yacht rock territory, but it's just such a smooth El Lay blend of great songwriting/production. and it was recorded in muscle shoals, cuz that's where byrne did his work. so, El Lay by way of Alabama. and it's not country at all. despite byrne being a highly paid and highly successful country writer. you can probably find it on a blog or something. yer gonna have to be a smooooooth 70's fan to dig it though. just so you know.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://rs442.rapidshare.com/files/148571954/Robert_Byrne___1979__Blame_it_on_the_night.Cult_AOR.mp3.rar

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:23 (seventeen years ago)

sorry:

http://rs442.rapidshare.com/files/148571954/Robert_Byrne_-__1979__Blame_it_on_the_night.Cult_AOR.mp3.rar

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 13:25 (seventeen years ago)

i've been digging the Jamme album this week. merseybeat cowboy hat pop produced by john phillips (and terry melcher) mostly in 1968, but only released by dunhill in 1972! so, someone buying it in 1972 might have suffered some small flashbacks. sounds really good to me now though. they were an actual band, but the album ends up being a mishmash of band members and people like larry knechtel and jim gordon. you can read the convoluted story here:

http://www.myspace.com/jammeclassics

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

oh, and Rockin' Foo, i've been playing them this week. Rockin' Foo definitely belong here. i got there 2nd album on Uni. both Rockin' Foo albums are self-titled, i think. the one on Hobbit and the one on Uni. anyway, they were cool. and rural and all that.

and, i've been playing Marrying Maiden by It's A Beautiful Day. that one has Jerry all over it. playing pedal steel and banjo.

and, i've been playing two records on the Evolution label. one by Game and the other by Steel River. I was gonna sell the Steel River album, but i dig it.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

david crosby solo album is fantastic. jerry's on that one a little too. wish there'd been another one during that era

kamerad, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:26 (seventeen years ago)

i got a copy of the Rockin' Foo LP on Hobbit a couple years back but it didn't do much for me. In fact i found it kinda painful to listen to. Certainly no Plain Jane! but, I always did wonder why there was an album on Uni that was also self-titled. Wasn't sure if it was a second issue of the Hobbit album or what..

Plunge Protection Team, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

found a sealed copy of the Mike Corbitt & Jay Hirsch lp at the record fair on Saturday. 10 bucks, not that bad. still holding out for a reasonably priced Mr. Flood's Party sometime in my lifetime.

Plunge Protection Team, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:06 (seventeen years ago)

haven't seen any mention of sixto rodriguez here. totally worth people's time
http://www.myspace.com/rodriguezsugarman
he's from detroit via mexico, so doesn't really count, but sort of does, too

kamerad, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

here's a case of me underrating something that i now really dig: the Farquahr album on elektra. or maybe it just fits my mood right now. i like jerry ragovoy's big booming production, and the harmonies are great. "hanging on by a thread" is a killer song too. plus, how can you not enjoy a well-crafted folk/country rock album made by four guys named Barnswallow, Hummingbird, Condor, and Flamingo Farquahr?

it makes me want to hear the 60's Fabulous Farquahr album on Verve. anyone have that? same dudes, i think. less country, as far as i can tell from descriptions.

scott seward, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:44 (seventeen years ago)

imported from Rolling Country (our discussion of early frontrunners ofr Top Ten:
Chris Darrow's twofer, s/t with Under My Own Disguise. from the early 70s, post- or late-psychedelic folk/country rock I'd say: he reaps the whirlwind, under inpenterable cloud cover, but re-orientation is no prob: dense but clear, as xgau said of Meltzer's best writing, And no up-in-lights oh wow factor, cause no lights. Lots of stuff going on, but mainly what gets me is voice-keyboards-bass-drums in the pocket, like on Fotheringay 2, Jessi Colter's Out Of The Ashes, Tell Tale Signs (and some other Dylan tracks, much older than Tell Tale Signs' outtakes, like "Ballad of a Thin Man"/"Dear Landlord"/"Down Along The Cove"/"If Dogs Run Free"/"Dirge") Vocally, a bit like Michael Nesmith, but this guy can hold a note as long as he wants to, and flex it too (might be some of that Middle Eastern in his alma mater, Kaleidoscope, but he always sounds like a cowboy, incl in UK with maybe some of the same people on Fotheringay 2, come to think of it-- although some of the "UK" vibe turns out to be from the L.A. sessions, and vice versa)
-dow

dow, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 16:44 (seventeen years ago)


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