Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

thanks for the link, interested to hear this new album.
pretty killer live recording of a new solar motel jam here: https://soundcloud.com/solar-motel-band/high-castle-rock

thanks maarten!

I'll check that out when I get an opportunity.

Wondering if anyone listened to "The Mirror Speaks" track I posted- given all of the unfamiliarity expressed I'd figured there'd be some feedback by now!

It really is a stellar track.

I am so-so on Blackshaw. At times it sounds amazing to me, and I dig the cascade of notes, at other times it just washes over me and I don't really engage with it. That track is cool in parts, and he is nailing it, but at times I find it a little too busy to get into. I like the back end of the track the best, where he sits on some figures for longer periods and lets some air in.

Recent Out Door has a section focussed on solo guitar players, with a cool bit on Norberto Lobo. Also hits up Cam Deas and Matthew Mullane, all three of whom I know very little about. Feature is here:

http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/tagged/Technique

There are full transcripts available too, posted on the blog: http://the-out-door.tumblr.com/tagged/Technique

i love this so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5thmhpQVHY

Yeah, that is nice. Like the end of it a lot. Probably just need to listen to more Blackshaw.

know what you mean about him, he can sometimes get overly dense or something. one of my faves is celeste, which has a little more open space in its latter half.

Thanks for the rec, will probably still need to take him in small doses but he can obviously play like hell.

grandavis I get where you're coming from- but the whole middle section of "The Mirror Speaks" is no more busy to me than Basho or any other notable finger picking 12 string material I've heard. However the intro of the track is definitely a stormy wash of sound.

But that's just my perspective. It could certainly wash out easily but The Cloud of Unknowing at least has nice melodic progression for me. Maybe it's lack of dynamics/breaks that irk you?

To be honest I don't listen to the busier Basho stuff much either, but I am not a completist on any of this stuff so I don't want to suggest that I have thought about this super deeply. Just think that I am drawn to the simple-tunes side of this spectrum, as well as the stuff that rides a "minimalist" compositional bent when the right (or picking) hand goes "maximalist". Pretty vague, but kind of how my brain latches onto this type of playing generally these days. But yeah, lack of breaks is maybe the key. There are dynamics obviously, but maybe maxed out a bit for me.

listened to this on the bus ride to work this morning -- really lovely: http://grasstopsrecording.bandcamp.com/album/the-travelers-journey

kyle is super talented.

him and another grass top artist christoph bruhn played a show together at a library in minneapolis i had to miss because of my stupid car breaking but apparently it was recorded and will be released

The Out Door feature on guitar is nice. Have absolutely loved Norberto Lobo since coming across that festie performance in Portugal I posted about a month ago. General looseness and shortage of a stylized home base to fall back on. The choppy, abrupt passages have further warmed up on me. Slight comedy in there too, subtle jokes here and there in that Portugal performance. It's nice to see something fairly outside the spectrum getting love.

The Mirror Speaks actually surprised me though, intro is great. I've yet to do the standard discographical chow down with Blackshaw, only stuff here and there. There's a certain color there to that song, Glenn Jones' David and the Phoenix feels the same way.

Hah dove right into the 20-something minute Blackshaw tune "Sunshrine" and am actually really enjoying it. Guess I gotta dig through some more.

Lobo is really cool, definitely going to be keeping an eye on that guy.

got your tape, man-

if anyone doesn't know grandavis does cool prepared guitar stuff. it's definitely on the more 'out' side of this thread but really rad stuff. got a nice review today in TMT:
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/chocolate-grinder/listen-dais-queuemope-lounge-split-0

anyway, excited to listen. i wish i had a tape deck in my car! ha.

Thanks man! Nice to see it get a mention there. I actually wish I had a tape deck in my car these days too, which is bizarre but I listen to them in my office and gotta say for certain music tapes really deliver.

that sounds really cool, though i've been really resisting the urge to get a cassette player in recent year! i don't wanna go back, they weren't that great to begin with!

haha, yeah, I made the decision earlier this year that i would NOT get into cassettes (after dabbling a little for a few years), but on a weekly basis, i find myself thinking, hmmm maybe i should get into cassettes.

i even started this thread! omg
Cassette Only Labels S/D

Most stuff on cassette is streamable, not sure you need to invest unless there is a rash of stuff that goes Drag City and skips the digital option.

And thanks UMS!

yeah, it's great that the music is generally available digitally from those labels.

yeah i'm a vinyl guy but i'm really coming around on bandcamp being the greatest thing that might have ever happened to music distribution

i think tapes lend a nice quality sonically to some stuff. and they're nice for a small act to have some physical product to sell so people don't feel like they're buying air.

yeah i def like cassette lo-fi over fake digital lo-fi, there's a quality to it

whenever i listen to old rap on spotify it sounds weird to me because i'm so used to the cassette sound, i think things were mastered for cassette in the late 80s/early 90s too

also mentioned this the other day but this is the fosburgh/bruhn thing at the library

https://soundcloud.com/grasstopsrecording/sets/fosburgh-bruhn-live-mn-guitar

btw you have a cassette out of the album right global?

in less fun news:

i have developed a case of tendonitis in my right (picking arm) elbow....really bumming me out, i need to lay off playing for a couple weeks which sucks...anyone else ever dealt with this?

i know part of it is i need to learn to play with less force, but i tend to get more and more tense and forceful the harder or more challenging what i'm trying to play is....

any advice on dealing w/this would be very much appreciated.

Sorry to hear that! Are you experiencing a lot of temperature fluctuation where you live this time of year?

not really it's been just pretty much cold as hell (MN)

Well my fiancee has joint/hand issues and the weather change can really screw with her. My only advice would be to talk to a doctor to understand your limits.

Oh man, hope that clears up UMS. I don't go hard on the picking so can't speak to helping out, hope someone here has some good resources.

yeah, bummer! was just listening to jack rose's raag manifestos last night and thinking how much of a workout he was giving his arm on some tracks. some of these dudes have got to have techniques to help w/ this.

I think yr supposed to be more prone to this if you anchor yr playing hand with a pinky (iirc leo kottke said this was at least partly the cause of his tendonitis) so a more classical/relaxed hand position might help

when classical guitarists insist you should begin every session with twenty minutes of practice playing open strings in the most precise & economical way possible I can't decide whether I think it's absurd or fantastic

What do you mean?

guys! i spend at least 15 min warming up every time i practice because 1) it helps me get in the mood 2) it helps me improve speed and 3) it helps my muscles get ready. you gotta warm up and also stretch! i do neck, shoulder, finger stretches at least 3x a week, if not every day.

your body will thank you if you remember that it periodically needs your attention
that's what your elbow's telling you :)

hope your arm feels better soon! tbh i only mentioned it because i was just talking about warmups and also i learned some useful shoulder stretches from yoga with andre http://www.decibelmagazine.com/diary/metal-yoga-with-andre-foisy-1/

yeah i'm not good on warming up
also i know i need to work on proper technique, sitting positions, etc

(thx for the advice all and the yoga link)

you can call your first album Voice of the Elbow

Got the Elbow (Black and) Blues

I really dig this new Hush Arbors material. Keith just posted this on facebook. Streched out 30min long tune at Quiet Music Festival, Oct 2014.

http://vimeo.com/112521535

Well truth be told I don't know how new this stuff is, but his previous albums didn't this type of guitar playing if I'm remembering correctly, was mostly upbeat singing folk rock?

Yeah, the Hush Arbors album posted a little bit up in the thread is also more in this vein, and pretty nice overall. Once Keith gets going on this one it is pretty cool, a good direction for him.

Didn't know Zeppelin pilfered Fahey (maybe):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YnsCMHDRP0

Then again Sunflower River Blues is like one of those songs that seems like it wrote itself or always existed. But I'd wager Page and co knew of Fahey!

Ahah yes, I've been wanting to find something like this because I remember playing guitar a long time ago around like the friends of my friends' friends, party night whatever, someone goes 'hey nice man, led zeppelin' and I was very confused, never knew what he was talking about.

Good lord though, that guitar is right on the dot.

heh heh, yeah. is he playing 12 string there though?
was just listening to the yardbirds' "white summer" -- I guess a guy who borrows heavily from davey graham is just a few steps away from borrowing from fahey.

& borrowing from bert jansch

they were tight bros. with fairport convention too, so i can't imagine page & plant didn't know about fahey and american primitive stuff

i actually think about zep a lot in regards to all this stuff, that was really the only band that ever really surfaced any of the UK progressive folk type stuff into the mainstream and i think made me more ready for stuff like fahey etc