basically i dont just know why one doesnt just transfer this enthusiasm to like...3 other, better, less blatantly sociopathic rappers from the same scene
because yeah...you dont have to have complex rhymes to make powerful statements but his are almost always neither, just rage & there are rappers who do rage better from his scene and various others
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link
the same word (or sound) deployed in different contexts can mean ten different things.....like a basketball, player
i want to go on the record though i think deej is a great hip hop writer for real & i liked reading that review
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
agreed
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
thought of a sidebar stemming off this but will post in goon thread
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:42 (nine years ago) link
using extreme slant rhymes ("I just hit a stain, finagle/ I just hit a stain, finito")
technically "two three-syllable words that begin with f" rather than a "slant rhyme," but hey, who gives a shit about terminology
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
I'm gonna assume he pronounces it fin-ay-go
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:18 (nine years ago) link
Deej's opinions and theories about Keef are generally batshit insane, but certainly well-argued and well-written.
Ideally they would be published in a place like the Chuck Eddy-era Village Voice instead of a place so rooted in "editorial voice" but w/e
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
im not going to defend my review on ilx bc i think thats prob bad form / bad precedent but i dont think keef is either nihlistic or a sociopath, at least any more so than boosie or spice 1 or any other gangster rapper throughout history, w/ age & experience artists evolve & early boosie is all "the one who rap bout killin, shootin, marijuana distribution"—def feel like those ideas have been foisted on keef due to the discussion around chicago violence that blew up around him, people blame him in a way they wouldnt do to idk c-bo or someone...its very strange
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
actually, i will defend the ice cube thing bc wtf that totally makes sense, when you drop ice cubes in a glass a tiny piece of them pokes above the water and the rest *looms* below
― deej loaf (D-40), Saturday, 29 November 2014 20:33 (nine years ago) link
http://www.ginnytonkin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Do-not-think-it-means.jpeg
― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
Not music, but if there's ever been anything worse, it would drive the insane maaad:
http://www.examiner.com/article/robert-de-niro-book-darkest-secrets-shawn-levy-book-alleges-drugs-bad-temper
― dow, Sunday, 30 November 2014 03:31 (nine years ago) link
xp ffs its exaggerated for scale obv
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 30 November 2014 12:02 (nine years ago) link
it was an obv reference to iceberg theory but i wanted to shift to a less cliche'd image
― deej loaf (D-40), Sunday, 30 November 2014 12:07 (nine years ago) link
xxpost
"While some may only recognize him in more recent movies like “American Hustler,” [De Niro]’s talents go way back to earlier films in the 1970s and then into the 1980s."
― MaudAddam (cryptosicko), Monday, 1 December 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
That De Niro piece reads like it was written by a computer.
― rising stones cross (anagram), Monday, 1 December 2014 08:40 (nine years ago) link
people who like keef are v dedicated to defending him on what are occasionally shaky grounds, but that particular review is overall solidly written minus the overcooked sentence here and there (and who, among people who professionally or as amateurs write about music, hasn't written one of those?)― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:10 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, November 25, 2014 10:10 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I often read back my own reviews and realise I'm as guilty of this as anything. Do any more experienced writers have a particular way of avoiding these kinds of sentences, or is it just down to practice and knowing when to reel oneself in?
― Piss-Up Artist (dog latin), Monday, 1 December 2014 10:10 (nine years ago) link
low-hanging fruit I know but
http://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmessitte/2014/12/03/on-hozier-why-is-take-me-to-church-so-popular/
― katherine, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
page 1 is relatively unremarkable throat-clearing, page 2 is the same old horseshit (cherry-picked lyrics? griping about Swedes? misspelled pop artists' names? yup yup yup), but page 3 is a horseshit tour de force
― katherine, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
― rising stones cross (anagram), Monday, December 1, 2014 3:40 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's examiner, it probably was (or by an article-spinning app)
― katherine, Friday, 5 December 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
are there good three-page (web) reviews?
― mookieproof, Friday, 5 December 2014 02:09 (nine years ago) link
In terms of lyrical subject—and deftness of imagery—“Take Me To Church” has much more in common with James Joyce’s A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (or Frank McCourt’s Angela’s Ashes) than with the preposterously sexualized transformation of Nic Jonas or Ariana Grande
!!!
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Friday, 5 December 2014 11:14 (nine years ago) link
http://www.artistempathy.com/blog/the-pomplamoose-problem-artists-cant-survive-as-saints-and-martyrs
haven't actually read it but it's a think piece on pomplamoose so ... shruggy emoticon
― Mistah FAAB (sarahell), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:13 (nine years ago) link
It's actually good. It's not about Pomplamoose really, it's about the way American society treats its artists.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link
yeah p good piece
― Οὖτις, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link
the forbes piece is like.......ever time i think we've reached a cellar for wites writing sanctimoniously about the triumphs (or lack of attention paid to) "real" music, we fall even lower
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
also i had never heard of pomplamoose (i know rite total ILX party foul, i have been led to believe) and...um wut
not like "this prob sucks" necessarily, i haven't tried it, but the overall explanation of what they are....i think "um wut" will remain a fair reaction regardless of how they sound
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
wait, were people really criticizing Pomplamoose for over-paying their band? Given all of their annoying traits, this seems like one of the least objectionable things they could do. Or am I missing some crucial detail?
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
but for real though, why is that Hozier song so popular
― example (crüt), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:26 (nine years ago) link
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, December 5, 2014 4:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not a good example though. The situation with Pomplamoose just shows that nobody wants to sympathize with fucking Pomplamoose (especially when they're asking for it).
― Evan, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:27 (nine years ago) link
i feel like i pay attention to & enjoy a lot of pop music and i have no fucking clue who hozier was, and after reading this goddamned forbes piece idk if i have any desire to even try it for music-anthropology reasons
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:32 (nine years ago) link
Consumers and supporters of the “music wants to be free” ethos picked apart the numbers and decided that Pomplamoose spent too much money on lights and on pay for their back-up band.
No, it was touring musicians who questioned the lighting costs (and the relatively expensive motels every single night). And I don't recall a single word in any of the anti-Ploose pieces that implied they were paying their band too much; even the most vitriolic responses said something along the lines of, "(but at least they paid their band)."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
no mention yet of the homophobic piece about the Peter Pan musical that Gawker ran?
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 5 December 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
i try to avoid gawker if possible w/ the exception of deadspin but it does not surprise me that they ran such a thing
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
that said they also like to pay lip service to moral stances so they can assuage their consciences (the ones who have functioning consciences, so, not hammy noles) over their denton-enforced dive-bombs into content aggregation for the sake of DEM CLICKZ, so, its double annoying when they do shit like that
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Friday, 5 December 2014 22:03 (nine years ago) link
there was definitely some question of "why did they HAVE 6 salaried people on their month long tour if it meant they toured at a loss?" before the Patreon info bubbled up, but that's not the same as asking why the salary was so high
― da croupier, Friday, 5 December 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
the big irony of that "artists can't be saints or martyrs" piece is that this all started because pompladude wrote a faux-confessional about how his band ain't rich because they chose to tour at a loss
― da croupier, Friday, 5 December 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
he sold HIMSELF as a martyr
― da croupier, Friday, 5 December 2014 22:17 (nine years ago) link
https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10462836_10153511319012137_7867710557987849448_n.jpg?oh=4ed5ed594ca71b54567d50be5b2dad5d&oe=54FAE6B5
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/14428_10153511322072137_6083905235496799694_n.jpg?oh=9ba57a71aa5b30af1fa08cdd56d36e50&oe=551C2845&__gda__=1425900420_77aac503d5c0da5216d13cfb663efc88
― scott seward, Friday, 5 December 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link
That gawker piece is a abomination on like a million levels
http://morningafter.gawker.com/peter-pan-live-was-the-worst-three-hour-drag-show-weve-1667018164
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
Love the idea of some music nerd sharpening his critical knives to skewer those darn musical theater types that beat him up in high school. Make sure you cram as many references to embarrassing gayness in there as you can, you shitheel.
― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten), Saturday, 6 December 2014 03:18 (nine years ago) link
they also like to pay lip service to moral stances so they can assuage their consciences
I almost wish they wouldn't. When the two modes collide and you get sanctimonious gossip it's the worst.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Saturday, 6 December 2014 11:41 (nine years ago) link
oh god i so did not miss this style of music writing. we have to go back
http://ratter.com/your-2015-coachella-friday-headliner-is-fucking-drake-1671889461
― maura, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
that's well suited to this thread; made me kinda ill to read
― a stupid red mute juggalo (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
unless you are a medieval Venetia or Cher Horowitz don't say ducats imo
― tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:35 (nine years ago) link
yeah it's just gross on multiple levels
― maura, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
it's like a parody of what everyone thought gawker was when it launched
Bros have felt like music journalism doesn't "get" them, so this helps.
― Evan, Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link
Ms. Rac-Tan
― tl;dr, gukbar, morbis detrius (wins), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:44 (nine years ago) link
Are you bigger than Drake? Get at me, zel✧✧✧@rat✧✧✧.c✧✧.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link
― EZ Snappin, Friday, December 5, 2014 4:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
buncha straight men in this thread calling a gay man a homophobe.... welcome to 2014
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 18 December 2014 19:52 (nine years ago) link