Relistening to this TWoD album again for the first time in a while, I find it's a very timid record. They're scared to go the full Don Henley or the full Dire Straits or the full Daniel Lanois or whatever other styles they're trying to bite and in the end it just sounds like a little bit of each of those things but in a bad way.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:23 (eleven years ago)
Not a *bad way, but an *unsatisfying way.
tbh i have less and less interest each passing year in what albums might be "best"/"better" and i've always been skeptical of critics' attempts to render coherent narratives of the chaos of a year's worth of music. those narratives can be important but the first drafts are not usually very compelling (i.e. we probably need some distance before we can make sense of it all). i'm happy just to kind of dip my toe in the stream and find some things that appeal to me.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:25 (eleven years ago)
It's probably because they're mixing all that with the ambient/spacerock/droney elements which prevent them going full on AOR, but I've gone into this on their own thread.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:26 (eleven years ago)
, FACT's contrarianism can be comical but it leads me to new things in a way that a more conventional list wouldn't.
what makes it contrarian or non-conventional? its not really my thing, but it just seems like a list of the records they feature on their site as far as i can tell
― saer, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:29 (eleven years ago)
what makes it contrarian
"I Miss You" being the Beyonce pick
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:56 (eleven years ago)
that's a great song tho
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:59 (eleven years ago)
every time I see "Dire Straits" as a referent in the same sentence as War on Drugs I wonder if the writer means "the synthy parts of late eighties Cure + Billy Idol echo"
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 17:59 (eleven years ago)
no, there's a definite twangy thing going on, but obviously it's at a bit of a lower skill level
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:02 (eleven years ago)
I tended to hear it as much in the wheedling of dude's 'Why can't I be Dylan' voice.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:13 (eleven years ago)
^^^otm - dylan vocal bites, where would indie duderock be without them
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:14 (eleven years ago)
where would indie duderock be without them
where it is now: dead, like all rock music.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:16 (eleven years ago)
you're so folksy, I'd do anythingape you from the scoops to where the pitch beginsyou're so precious, you're so right as rainyou make me make me revisit the highway again
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:17 (eleven years ago)
War of Drugs > Bob Dylan
:mic drop:
― jaymc, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:25 (eleven years ago)
xxpost thought it was p clear that was not a serious statement or one meant to laud indie duderock
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:30 (eleven years ago)
where would indie duderock be without themwhere it is now: dead, like all rock music.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:16 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lmao i love the inherent patting of self on back whenever someone says "rock is dead"
so hip now with it and wow
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:35 (eleven years ago)
The reason why I like WOTD is the same reason it's hard to say anything new about them. It's such a simple idea - blue-collar space-rock, aka what if Tom Petty and Bruce Horsby dug krautrock? It appeals to the same part of me that likes dance re-edits of Springsteen or Spiders (Kidsmoke) by Wilco or Balearic. I'm not sure I've discovered any great depths beyond that simple idea so it feels slightly lacking as an album of the year but for me the pleasure's instant.
― Re-Make/Re-Model, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:38 (eleven years ago)
it has certain combinations of sounds that remind me of certain FM rock radio memories while placing them in a slightly skewed context
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:42 (eleven years ago)
there's a definite twangy thing going on, but obviously it's at a bit of a lower skill level
Yeah, TWoD owes a lot more to Knopfler's rhythm playing than his lead playing.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:43 (eleven years ago)
War On The Drugs?
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:44 (eleven years ago)
i don't think anyone's saying war on drugs dude is notting hillbillies material! big knopf is a monster
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:45 (eleven years ago)
lmao i love the inherent patting of self on back whenever someone says "rock is dead"so hip now with it and wow
i mean, it kinda is, or at least on life support...i don't really have any positive or negative opinions on that fact tho, and good bands that play rock music are still good bands obvs, i do believe war on drugs is one of them
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:53 (eleven years ago)
it really isn't.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:54 (eleven years ago)
I don't know what "rock is dead" even means but it sure sounds cool to say.
― Evan, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:54 (eleven years ago)
I saw an "ART IS DEAD" sign in someones window. I don't know what that means either, though I bet that person is pretty edgy.
― Evan, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:56 (eleven years ago)
yeah i'm not sure either. "rock" has become many things; i feel like a lot of the music i listen to wouldn't exist without "rock" but some people here might not consider it "rock."
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:56 (eleven years ago)
the whole notion of relevance seems really boring to me and less and less important when everything's just a big mess on the internet and spotify now
if there are good bands then it's not dead or if it is dead and there are still good bands then who cares if it's "dead"? i don't care about big outsized bono/woodstock notions about rock having to be big or an important cultural force
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)
this is likely the only time I will say this but for the love of all that is good and holy, won't someone post another list
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)
xxxpost all around boston someone has been spraypainting NOT ART on things lately, throughout somerville & cambridge, both v edgy places in the minds of many residents, as anyone who lives here will know. to be fair, i loled
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)
shakedown otm
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 18:59 (eleven years ago)
Top 10 Cool Rock Bands Of 2014
1 The War on Drugs2 Crazy Eyes from Orange is the New Black3 The Pizza Underground4 Pallbearer5 Blue Oyster Cult6 ESPN 30 For 30 - Rand University7 Mr. Pibb8 Sleaford Mods9 Ricky Rubio10 Old Fashioned Minnesota Grape Salad
― i did it all for the 'nuki (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:01 (eleven years ago)
Now would be the perfect moment to drop the Classic Rock list but tragically it isn't out yet.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:01 (eleven years ago)
^^^ ha ditto
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:01 (eleven years ago)
RICKY RUBIO DROPPED AN ALBUM??? WHY WASN'T I TOLD i figured he'd put his time on the t-wolves injury list to good use
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)
if you only hear one release this year, make sure it's Old Fashioned Minnesota Grape Salad
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:04 (eleven years ago)
Isn't that pop?
― Evan, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:06 (eleven years ago)
more like neo-slowsaladcore
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:06 (eleven years ago)
pop is dead.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:06 (eleven years ago)
Oh never mind I misread that as "grape soda"
And Mr. Pibb was right there.
― jmm, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)
the truck just came out of nowhere
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:08 (eleven years ago)
rip pop you had a good run but austerlitz was bound to win in the end
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:10 (eleven years ago)
it'll be back around, say, 2025.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:10 (eleven years ago)
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/27865379/Pop+Is+Dead+Pop.jpg
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:18 (eleven years ago)
looolllllllllll
― hanley ramirez ordering a pizza (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:19 (eleven years ago)
rock is dead has been said since before anyone on ilx was born. Unless anyone was born before buddy holly died
― strychnine, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:24 (eleven years ago)
where did Aimless go
― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)
to create the happy days stageshow
― strychnine, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:25 (eleven years ago)
― Evan, Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:56 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0691002991/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/191-3869359-1421625
― Treeship, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:29 (eleven years ago)
6 ESPN 30 For 30 - Rand University
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)