Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

btw which is yr favorite fahey album, gents?

Vol 2 or Fare Forward, depending on the day

i actually think the Great Santa Barbara Oil Slick might be my overall fave.

man I really need to get that

the "Magruder Park" on there is incredible. whole thing is fantastic, just a really good argument for his genius.

really tough between The Great San Bernadino Birthday Party & Other Excursions & The Yellow Princess

New Possibility...America...Transfiguration of Blind Joe Death close behind....

basically the though the first six takoma albums packaged in the Transcendental Waterfall box set are all pretty perfect really

New Possibility is really really good, I seriously considered that as an answer

it certain transcends the concept of a "christmas standards" album to me & takes everything to a very sad and beautiful and meditative place

Death Chants or Days Have Gone By for me

Oil Slick is v good too

i don't think his 90s era was as 'new' as it might seem, check this, some srsly wild/vaguely unlistenable stuff here (1967):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiVzHQUBeMY

heh, yeah, that is a good one... bio says that fahey and the red crayola recorded a whole album of this stuff, but the label rejected it? I'm assuming the tapes have never surfaced.

oh great, like I need any more lost albums to daydream about

the tapes are just sitting there, collecting dust in some warehouse...
http://cdn.cantechletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-last-scene.jpg

Mayo Thompson is still around, someone go check in with him. He may be sitting on those tapes himself.

i guess i figured since drag city put the live 67 thing (from whence that youtube clip came) that mayo didn't have the actual sessions... but who knows!

Hah yeah, who knows. Maybe the best stuff was put out there and it was left at that.

i think my favorite fahey record is days have gone by (whatever "volume" that is). it's not his most ambitious record, i guess, but i love it.

does anyone rate recent (i.e. post-1990) red krayola records at all?

probably my single favorite fahey track (i know, boring choice):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwQu3JSVNGA

does anyone rate recent (i.e. post-1990) red krayola records at all?

fuck no, I'm off the bus after Kangaroo

yeah, i've often wondered if drag city releasing his newer stuff is some kind of philanthropy or something.

Mostly pre 90s Krayola too, but I imagine Drag City isn't handing out lifetime achievement awards. Favorite of Mayo-related stuff though is "Corky's Debt To His Father", as far as what I return to these days.

you do see used copies of those recent RK CDs for sale for incredibly cheap, so I can't imagine that (a) many copies are sold or (b) people who buy them regard them very highly. i bought a few myself because i tend to trust drag city and b/c of thompson's reputation and was decidedly underwhelmed. i do like the stuff w/ art & language, the '60s stuff less so, i must admit.

anyway: fahey.

There was at least a song off of Introduction (2006) that I remember liking... kind of a fuzzy memory at this point.

oh, to change the subject back to something arguably more relevant, i have a recommendation for y'all:

norberto lobo, fornalha

new record, lovely guitar/soundscapes.

you can listen to some of it here: http://isolatarium.com/2014/09/19/norberto-lobo-fran/

and buy it here: http://threefour.bigcartel.com/product/norberto-lobo-fornalha-lp

wondrous cover btw

http://isolatarium.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/norberto-lobo-fornalha.jpg

Man, the Norberto Lobo sounds great. Cool player.

yeah that is amazing

i think you can hear more of the record here: http://www.artesonora.pt/breves/norberto-lobo-edita-fornalha/

and/or here: http://www.ruadebaixo.com/norberto-lobo-fornalha-5-11-2014.html

find it hard to believe anyone finds after the ball more dour than raag manifestos. it makes sense to me that jack rose would loom larger than fahey for a lot of these guys though. there's a certain looseness to jack's playing, even when he's at his most faheyish, a swing to his syncopation (& a sort of exuberance in his busyness mb) & he didn't have fahey's laconic calm. I think rose's sunflower river blues is closest to the version on the fahey/kottke/lang record but jack's version still feels a lot more open & improvised than fahey's more composer-ly control. that kind of 69/70sish maximum mass 'high fahey' is the only one of fahey's incarnations that I think he is v close to. if you wanted some punkish challops maybe you'd point to alcohol as a common influence.

otherwise rose's music sounds much more modern. a background on electric, the influence of years playing improv drone on his sense of structure, and with a good ear for & interest in the physical sound of the instrument. fahey is audibly of a different era, you still hear glimmers of the 19th century listening to him. I can see how rose seems like a richer well to draw from for these guys & you can definitely hear much more rose than fahey in eg. daniel bachman

jack rose heckled an old john fahey when he saw him playing some electric stuff, though he was a bit ashamed of it years later.

all the red krayola I've heard has been quite inconsistent, the recording w/ fahey is not that special iirc but I liked the art & language stuff too.

basically the though the first six takoma albums packaged in the Transcendental Waterfall box set are all pretty perfect really

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this^^^

Though I rep p hard for Railroad and even harder for Of Rivers and Religion, and I also really like God Time & Causality, (and Let Go - this whole era, really) and I sorta lightheartedly busted Swingset Steve's chops about being so tough on that stuff in his book.

Also, yall are crazy if you don't like Red Cross. That record is gorgeous. Someone once described it as Fahey taking his obviously declining ability and turning it into something beautiful, which I think crystallizes why I like this album so much.

Anyone ever hear that Three Day Band album with Ayal Senior?

Also, ogmor, good call on the strong Rose / Bachman link. Just saw him play here a few nights ago and the influence of Jack (who I was lucky enough to see play many, many times) was unmistakable.

I'm not necessarily arguing the point about rose v fahey but Ryley is kinda trolley overall on Twitter

Lots of good stuff on the recent Avant Ghetto radio show (including a lengthy delve into our own Neal's Rag Lore project). He played a track by some guy named Clay Cantrell that was pretty lovely, nice low-key acoustic playing: https://soundcloud.com/clay-cantrell/wraith-visitation-1

Ehh, other stuff I could dig up not quite as compelling, but I like a good low-key run through.

Amen to favorable comments on Red Cross. Also, its notes incl. Glenn Jones's memories of the ever-colorful JF.

i certainly like that one the best of his late stuff, but on the whole i'm not a big fan of that era.

neal the rag lore stuff on avant ghetto sounds great

Yeah, the Rag Lore releases are definitely cool. For those not looking to sift through a radio show to get there, you can check that recording out here: http://raglore.com/album/sabah-el-mitragyna-reveries

i was googling around and didn't realize Danny Paul Grody used to be in a post-rock band, but that totally makes sense, this seems pretty cool (band called The Drift)

http://thedrift.bandcamp.com/album/memory-drawings

Thanks guys, real glad you pointed that out to me Davis. Great radio, thing that I was psyched on the most was how Jeff layered the Toshi Ichiyanagi, Michael Ranta, and Takehisa Kosugi improvisation on top of the latter part of my tape, the drones. Comfortable segue there.

In relation to the reupload of the 'Azalea' recordings - all of these outtakes and unreleased material originally came from johnfahey.blogspot.com. All expired links now, most all of it has since shown up on Delta Slider and a couple other places too. But there was one post explaining how the recording session for Dance of Death took place over a couple days and resulted in lots of extra unused material. Plus overall, if you check out the detailed "sessions" text that Takoma published, there are TONS of mysterious song titles, but that's besides the point. Stephen at the blog uploaded a chunk of these Dance of Death outtakes/alt takes/random curios. Delta Slider never re-upped this, and no one came forward to do it either when it was talked about on the yahoo group. So I grabbed it on my hard drive and am putting it together now. It's nothing extremely special, mostly short fragments, a few unissued songs, but it's interesting since it comes from that very early period. I sometimes wonder what it would be like to hear certain artists in the studio, trying out takes and stopping abruptly. This is mostly what that is.

That's what a lot of the weird/misspelled Fahey albums put onto Spotify lately are like. Studio banter and whatnot. Bizarre stuff:

http://open.spotify.com/track/50Eh5vuktd1nfvZMSZsu4v ('Dvorsack' lol)

^^ that one is outtakes from "Railroad" I think. Of course since it's some shady third party trying to make a buck they call it 'Masters of the Last Century: The Best of John Fahey"

looking forward to the upload though!

Oh damn, yeah I've been wanting to go swimming through all that stuff on Spotify, so strange.

Prepared Guitar publishes a list of Essential Names in Contemporary Guitar and I was happy to see Kyle Fosburgh of Grass Top Records get a nod, well deserved

http://preparedguitar.blogspot.com.es/2013/12/kyle-fosburg-13-questions.html

lot of names, some familiar and some not....and Jill "I Kissed a Girl" Sobule! who knew?

http://preparedguitar.blogspot.com.es/2014/11/201-essential-names-in-contemporary_29.html

Out of nowhere here, but I just recently revisited James Blackshaw's The Cloud of Unknowing and it holds up as one of my favorites, still. Not sure how much discussion he's had here besides a shout out or two. Totally gorgeous.

yeah, that was the first blackshaw record I heard -- so good. his and jack rose's records in the mid 00s were really what got me going deeper into this stuff. though this thread is probably most responsible.
heard that the next blackshaw record is going to be pretty different -- singing? pop songs? something like that.

i don't know that one, but All Is Falling by Blackshaw is really special to me, though in a lot of ways it's more of a composer's record, like the guitar is a big part of it but feels more akin to guys like Philip Glass and Steve Reich in some ways

John Mulvey just posted his end-of-year picks for Uncut: http://www.uncut.co.uk/blog/uncut-editors-diary/the-154-best-albums-of-2014-a-very-personal-list

Lots of familiar names from this thread, including Rag Lore!

need to give cloud of unknowing another listen. friend of mine who loves all this kind of stuff and turned me on to a lot of it (including paul metzger) says it's his favorite solo guitar album

the only one I have is Glass Bead Game and I like that a lot, I should check those other ones out

good call on the Glass/Reich orchestra vibe

Yeah, this track in particular is a real jam! Very catchy, actually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F5at5y87ZQ