I like a lot of pink's music, have listened to his stuff for a long time, seen him live quite a bit etc etc and I don't like this album at all. To my ears, there's nothing that interesting sonically
totally agree. felt the same way about mature themes (liked that one at first but grew very tired of it almost immediately). just not very interesting.
― marcos, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah I wasn't too into mature themes either but for whatever reason, for me, Live It Up really coheres into something that's instantly compelling
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link
there's always been something, at the very least like one track in an album, that's made me go "holy shit!!!"
For whatever reason, he's been able to achieve, at times, a completely unique atmosphere that I actively want to exist in, but there's really nothing on pom pom that does that, and, to take it a step further, there's nothing on pom pom that seems like it would be rewarding if I were to stay with it in an attempt to understand what I'm not understanding
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 19:10 (nine years ago) link
just listened to this album and it kinda blew away my expectations tbh. the kid is talented.
― example (crüt), Friday, 21 November 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
he's 36
have some respect
― Number None, Friday, 21 November 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
I feel similarly. I don't really feeling like revisiting this. I'm over the wacky Ariel stuff for the most part and the "good" songs don't hold a candle to something like "Among Dreams" or "Strange Fires."
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:49 (nine years ago) link
It's interesting that Doldrums really isn't that silly at all. I'd like to see it get some recognition so many years on.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 21 November 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
It's too lo fi for that to happen
― nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:26 (nine years ago) link
the doldrums is his saddest record, there isn't anything like "hardcore pops are fun" or "jules lost his jewels" or "are you gonna look after my boys?" it's just straight up isolation sickness. the title track is one of my favorites and underrated i feel...
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Yeah as I said i miss his more personal sincere stuffBut i got used to Pom Pom and I try not to compare those 2 different periods.Both are great (though not perfect) imo, for different reasons.
― nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:31 (nine years ago) link
did anyone see him on his first apparently "disastrous" tours in 2004/2005?
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:34 (nine years ago) link
Did he play live alone back then?
― nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:48 (nine years ago) link
i think it was a mix, but there's an LA Weekly feature from 2005 that says he played with a band that was under-rehearsed because he couldn't pay them
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 22 November 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/6553-the-doldrums/
Different I said?Amazing how most things didn't change..Change the low score and remove some lo fi references and..magic!
― nostormo, Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:07 (nine years ago) link
his band was really really good when I saw them in 2010
― example (crüt), Saturday, 22 November 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link
I saw him around 2006 (I think) and it was great! I've still got the super-faded t-shirt from that tour.
― MikoMcha, Saturday, 22 November 2014 12:59 (nine years ago) link
I got into him when I saw the video for "Kate I Wait" in 2005. Saw him a year or two later on the tour where he had a different band in every venue. At the show he alternated between having the band back him up and karaoke-ing to his backing tapes, using a Tascam 4-track on stage.
My friends in LA were at a show of his last night and I saw some clips and it was sort of the same. Mix of live band and backing tapes.
I listened back to Mature Themes and think the new one is WAY better. The production is better and the songwriting is too as a result. Songs that maybe started out as tangents are fleshed out with tighter vocal arrangements and stuff. Some songs on his old albums had a few good ideas but they were perhaps front-loaded and once the initial idea is spent sort of seem superfluous. The new record feels like maybe they used that approach for writing the material but the final mixes and arrangements are nailed down.
"Four Shadows" is my favorite song on this. I love that time signature change into the chorus, as well as those "Things that go bump in the night" backing vocals.
Does someone else sing a line on "Negativ Ed"? Sounds like a guest singer for a line or two...
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 22 November 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
I really wanted to hate the new one, but it really is the best he's done in a long time. Before Today was boring, didn't even bother with Mature Themes.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 22 November 2014 18:36 (nine years ago) link
I mean, holy shit, this shit is awesome.
― what_have_you, Sunday, 23 November 2014 05:14 (nine years ago) link
undiscovered ariel pink track, guess one of the ones he made when he was 8 years old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmmWYyIlBs0
― moneyma$e, Monday, 22 December 2014 04:22 (nine years ago) link
I'm really happy about Pom Pom. There are at least 6 songs on here that are as good as anything he did in his more lo-fi days. I think A.P. is going to survive the transition to Hi-Fi, unlike other bands who have tried, and promptly fell off (The Clientele, anyone?)
― 3×5, Thursday, 1 January 2015 19:33 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOsSBMKguY
― DDD, Thursday, 22 January 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link
Anyone went to see him live?Should I go?
― nostormo, Friday, 6 March 2015 00:57 (nine years ago) link
definitely go. he is one of the worst frontmen i've ever seen, but his band is TOPS and the songs are amazing. and his singing is in tune
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Friday, 6 March 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link
Lol now I'm confused..
― nostormo, Friday, 6 March 2015 01:55 (nine years ago) link
he doesn't bound around the stage or anything, really it depends on what/if any drugs he scored before the show. i'm so fucking bummed i missed him due to weather last week because judging by the setlist he got some good shit (pom pom in its entirety plus half a dozen oldies & 3 song encore. they even did round & round)
― flappy bird (spazzmatazz), Friday, 6 March 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link
you should go! he might be dead in a year
saw him in 2010 in nyc and lucked out an a great setlist/performance. such a great show when he's on
― soyrev, Friday, 6 March 2015 05:53 (nine years ago) link
can everyone stop saying he'll be dead with a year on this thread plz
― PaulTMA, Friday, 6 March 2015 11:45 (nine years ago) link
friends who went to a show of his last month said it was great
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 March 2015 17:38 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8xjeft2ydQ
Feel like "Any Downers" by Zappa has a real strong presence on the new Ariel Pink, particularly the first half of the album.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 April 2015 18:53 (nine years ago) link
psyched
http://pitchfork.com/news/62104-ariel-pink-shares-new-track-hall-of-screams-putting-out-collaboration-with-dev-hynes/
http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/359954/26691571/1448252947580/IMG_3178a.jpg
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
Ariel Pink produced an album that came out last Friday:
https://play.spotify.com/album/0o3MmKQ304daCZGvHhLG8a?play=true&utm_source=open.spotify.com&utm_medium=open
It's decent.
More info: http://www.allmusic.com/album/phases-mw0002923916
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link
Ariel sings lead on this new song by the charlatan Michael Collins aka Drug Dealer or whatever. it's good
http://pitchfork.com/news/67374-hear-ariel-pink-on-drugdealers-new-song-easy-to-forget/
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 September 2016 18:42 (seven years ago) link
miss these days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alD4uGj6rQ
― Treeship, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
youu could play this and ppl would ask "what's that" and you could tell them and they wouldn't be filled with disgust.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
i mean, except for the interlude at 1:40
― Treeship, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
'everytime i die at miyagis' is one of my very favourite songs
― flopson, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
haha i had forgotten how stupid the interlude in this one was. immature spoken word Ariel Pink interludes would be a good poll
doubt many ppl irl know that he's verboten now, tbh
― flopson, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
he's never said anything particularly bad anyway
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 25 October 2016 23:58 (seven years ago) link
I was in the mood for some early Ariel earlier today
― calstars, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:06 (seven years ago) link
once every so often some friends and i will be chilling listening to AP and inevitably one of us will ask 'what your fav AP song?". the interlude in miyagis always forces me to dig deep and pick another song. so for that i appreciate it.
― dynamicinterface, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
i like how his impulse toward self-sabotage is evident even in his songs
― Treeship, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:11 (seven years ago) link
I'll confess, the interlude in black ballerina still cracks me up
― flopson, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link
my favorite is from "Hang on to Life" but I'm not sure it's not Jorge Elbrecht and not AP:
Hey man, what's the latest?She did what?How could she think that's cool?Can't believe these girls, man
― calstars, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:33 (seven years ago) link
Lettuce, tomatoes only, please
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 00:48 (seven years ago) link
spoken intro to "don't talk to strangers" is the best, it's like his thesis statement
― brimstead, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link
I meant "the best" as in great, not literally
messageboards
― brimstead, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 01:35 (seven years ago) link
my gf recently pointed out that the voice at the end of 'are you gonna look after my boys?' is saying 'exit stage right'
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link
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― Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 07:29 (seven years ago) link