Nicki Minaj - The Pink Print (2014)

i cant imagine being 'offended' by it, it is hilarious though

like how could they not realize what they were doing?

very bizarre video

artists are running political campaigns right now, nicki's stumbling quite a bit, i wonder what nate silver thinks about her odds of selling more than 80k

Sorry your product consumption is being interrupted by reminders of atrocities, sheeple

― da croupier, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:05 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But how is acting fake outrage any better? There have been more offensive, cultural things out there that remind people of historical atrocities. This is very small scale on that barometer. For the past few years, the glut of "offensive" pop culture news headlines has gotten to the point that dialogue isn't really made and follow through. Instead, the people offended just want to be seen as smarter than everyone in the room and offender get more attention than they probably deserved. In this case, the director who did seem like a dick on his twitter page. It's just a circle jerk that feeds people's egos.

what are more offensive cultural things out there?

and how does lil soul brother determine what is "fake" outrage

the thing is, this kind of IS like a clickhole article parodying outrage or something, i mean its a god damn godwin's law version of 'blurred lines'

ill take my first post back, ~obviously~ i can see how this would offend people, but ffs

i guess it's like idk...i sense that maybe if you're someone whose family went through shit in WW2 or w/e there'd be something offensive about artists who enjoy using such fascist imagery as a fashion statement, which is what it is first and foremost. distant second is some subversive shit i guess.

the tone deaf clumsiness of her political campaign is a secondary tragedy to the mind-numbing banality of her recent music

that alex ross article about the frankfurt school arguments coming back into fashion was spot on, feel like those dissensus dudes who were concerned about the fascistic impulse of juelz santana records were just a few years too early.

like artists who claim they're apolitical abt this fashion statement, they just like how it looks...i mean the fashion itself was a political statement when it was being used by its progenitors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67lKPD_PIpQ

in this dystopian present there will be a subcaste of people who cosplay and dance complex choreographed numbers to nicki minaj for money
one day they shall rise

what are more offensive cultural things out there?

― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:21 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Any cultural object/artifact (movie, toy, book, etc.) whose sole intent is to reinforce a minority is lesser than the majority consuming said cultural object. That was more prevalent in the past than now, but these things still exist. I think the "Only" lyric video wasn't meant to reinforce a negative opinion on a particular minority directly. It was just a failed attempt to be dark/edgy for Nicki. I guess a way to notify that "rap" Nicki was still going to be present on her album.

By two weeks, some other video/picture/whatever will replace the "Only" lyric video as the next thing to be offended by.

star movies cafe in the philippines is a thing btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBD7PDUXEmg

By two weeks, some other video/picture/whatever will replace the "Only" lyric video as the next thing to be offended by.

you would almost think there's a lot of offensive, stupid shit in the world

like yes personally my reaction to fascist imagery underscoring self-made young money slash fiction was more "lol idiots" than "how dare you" but i don't begrudge the adl taking it a little more seriously and i definitely am not ready to say the problem with the world these days is too much sensitivity

isnt it entirely possible that this was intended to outrage

did you read the apologies? i'd say "yes" re: the director (in a "what's wrong with being sexy?" sense) and "no" re: nicki

v brashly cynical

praying some reporter bridges the gap between "i wanted to teach the children through a dense tapestry of iconography" and "he got the idea from metalocalypse"

where are the the crucified monkeys?

that alex ross article about the frankfurt school arguments coming back into fashion was spot on, feel like those dissensus dudes who were concerned about the fascistic impulse of juelz santana records were just a few years too early.

― deej loaf (D-40)

good to see a stand being made itt against the dreaded spectre of Cultural Marxism!

ps, pretty sure that you don't need to have read Dialectic of Enlightenment to think that fetishizing and popularising (and making money off) fash aesthetics is Kinda Bad

that was the original nutta robin carmody

drawing an equivalence between him (the no-mediocre likes of which u will never see again) and limp thinkpiece churnalism is a book-burning purge of history more balefully fascistic than anything itt

Dip-set dip-set dip-set

adorno >> carmody >> everything else

tbf to that carmody bit, even a decade on the westwood world premiere of 'santana town' & 'get em girls' (with the original sample) back 2 back will forever remain one of the most incredible bits of (national!!) radio i can recall.... the shouting, the bombs, the reloads, the reloads, the reloads, the reloads... reader it must have been at least a full half hour of third steve reich nuremberg rally sturm & drang

the gangsta rap nazi hotel foxtrot

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lmao summoned

Actually I think "I apologise / take full responsibility" b/w "it was inspired by videogames" was an incredibly astute way of her / her team to handle it.

Because it brings up the troublesome tradition of Nazi iconography in video games (like, how many first person shooter games use "the Nazis!" as a lazy, bad signifier of "bad guys" or "evil" even while still getting to depict them in all their well designed iconography and lavish detail?) and, given the recent brouhaha about representation and ~ethics~ in videogames, I think "why do game designers get a free pass to throw nazi imagery around in any way they like, without having it problematised, but Nicki doesn't?" I think that's a valid question, whether or not Minaj or her team intended it to be.

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I think there's a whole world of grey area between the positions of "every single thing Nicki does, from breakfast cereal onwards is subversive!!!" (which no one, to be fair, has actually taken) and "nothing that Nicki Minaj ever does, can *ever* be taken as subversive, that's like calling breakfast cereal subversive" (which is a very dumb argument, and some people do seem to be trying it on in the thread.)

It is not a good song, fair enough. (Though I'm not ~offended~ by it, I can see that there's an interesting twist in getting a bunch of dudes considered (by many; though obviously not by ILX) to be sex symbols to talk about how they would *like* to get with Nicki, but they're all not quite good enough for her - the power dynamics in that are funny to me.) Under most circumstances, "nazi iconography" these days I'd file under "lazy, bad signifiers; played out; try harder to be ~offensive~ if that's your game."

Given her statements, it would have to take a hell of a lot of our friend Roland to pull the kind of "death of the author" required to say that it is flipping White Supremacy - or rather that the flip is *intentional* - but still, that imagery, of taking ranks of Nazis, red-swathed colonnades, tons of fascist/empire artillery and in the centre of it all, where you're expecting Hitler or some Aryan nordic dude with slicked back blond hair, you've got an African-American woman, that image is still *striking* as a punchline, whether you choose to read that punchline as subversive or merely a bad joke.

"It's a shit single" is a valid criticism. "There's absolutely nothing subversive in any way about this imagery" is something that ignores gender and race dynamics in a pretty wilful way. But, I think, myself, given the reaction to her previous work, there's no way she could have tried to claim "it's flipping White Supremacy" and not get pilloried for it. With regards to rock/pop iconography and a world where so many white, male rockstars from the Rolling Stones to Pink Floyd to the Sex Pistols to the Stooges to Duran Duran to sodding Interpol have seen "Nazi Iconography" as just one more tool in the image playbox of ~generating controversy~ and received the benefit of the doubt as to their intentions, Nicki Minaj is going to get held to a different standard over it; that's a given in our culture.

there's no way she could have tried to claim "it's flipping White Supremacy" and not get pilloried for it.

one it would have been a load of shit

many white, male rockstars from the Rolling Stones to Pink Floyd to the Sex Pistols to the Stooges to Duran Duran to sodding Interpol have seen "Nazi Iconography" as just one more tool in the image playbox of ~generating controversy~ and received the benefit of the doubt as to their intentions,

all these happened a long time ago in a different media landscape

Pink Floyd used Nazi Iconography as a metaphor to show someone becoming completely unhinged so I'm not sure that there's anything to criticize them for beyond the existence of the metaphor; it certainly isn't done in a manner that endorses the source material.

I haven't watched Nicki's video yet so I have no direct opinion on it aside from finding the image from the resulting conversation of her subverting a bowl of cereal funny.

http://s2.hubimg.com/u/9111945_f260.jpg

just my $0.02

stepping up your game there missingno

he's no raccoon shittalki IMO

I haven't watched Nicki's video yet so I have no direct opinion on it aside from finding the image from the resulting conversation of her subverting a bowl of cereal funny.

― the farakhan of gg (DJP), Thursday, 13 November 2014 17:02 (1 hour ago) Permalink

Dan you should really watch it, it's kind of insane

okay a couple of things:

- this totally rips off Metalocolypse, the only thing missing is gratuitous gory violence
- this song is hot garbage from top to bottom

I find this commercial to be more insane than this lyric video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GEjKo2V4S4

i hope someone got promoted for thinking that up

i like that "it dies" wrt chia pets has gone from bug to feature

finally watched the video, woof

really worried about the album being another dud. at this point, i think it's fair to say that nicki just isn't an full-album artist but i will reserve full judgment until this drops

& that fact doesn't take away from the things about her that are really good

i wonder if the person who did this lyric video also did the "Anaconda" lyric video with the Mystery Science Theater 3000 homage at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvL39XfRXXM

i like "bed of lies" -- the only time i've ever enjoyed skylar grey, her part sounds... very 90s to me? like a jewel song or something?

also think this is one of the only times nicki has ever done an interesting confessional rap

I think because she is actually confessing something about her life her fans have been waiting for her to address for a while.

we've found a context in which Skylar Grey is a welcome presence, when the alternative is Nicki's warbling. if she sang it R&B radio might play it, though, now it's just for pop radio to ignore.

Deluxe Tracklist:

All Things Go
I Lied
The Crying Game
Get On Your Knees (feat. Ariana Grande)
Feeling Myself (feat. Beyonce)
Only (feat. Chris Brown, Drake & Lil Wayne)
Want Some More
Four Door Aventador
Favorite (feat. Jeremih)
Buy a Heart (feat. Meek Mill)
Trini Dem Girls (feat. Lunch Money Lewis)
Anaconda
The Night Is Still Young
Pills N Potions
Bed of Lies (feat. Skylar Grey)
Grand Piano
Big Daddy (feat. Meek Mill)
Shanghai
Win Again

so lookin ass got massive attack'ed :/

hopefully there'll be a great 12 track album in there like with roman reloaded.