oh yea they totally work in solid foundation
― marcos, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:36 (eleven years ago)
I just read about this actually. Wish I remembered where. I think it was about the Congos. The two main Congos guys started recording with Scratch, influenced him to start to dread his own hair, then during the course of their collaborations, more dreads started showing up and one may have had an affair with Scratch's wife? There was definitely an arc of 'this is great, I agree with this' to 'these guys are scumbags and I want them out', and I think it centered around the Congos relationship.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)
Ah, it was here: http://sweetrarereggaemusic.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-congos-heart-of-congos-original.html
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 18:49 (eleven years ago)
that website (^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^) is great.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 6 January 2015 03:16 (eleven years ago)
I'm listening to Battle for Armagideon (1986) for the first time and... this seems like the beginning of the end in terms of his quality output, no? It's just so sloppy and half-assed. I recall hearing some of his 90s stuff incl something w Mad Professor back when his initial revival was going on and that stuff wasn't v encouraging either. Sad, it does seem like he had some kind of genuine psychotic break and this is just how he is now.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:03 (ten years ago)
yea the psychotic break does seem like a real thing that happened. i haven't heard "battle" before but i'm listening now, i really dug the opener! but now i am a few tracks in and yea the quality does seem pretty low.
how the preceding albums?
― marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:19 (ten years ago)
dunno, the main one I'm interested in is the Return of Pipecock Jacxon, which I recall being fairly highly praised in People Funny Boy
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:30 (ten years ago)
ok i made it through all of "battle" nothing really that good except for "introducing myself"
― marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:30 (ten years ago)
the main one I'm interested in is the Return of Pipecock Jacxon
found it on youtube fwiw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi5vYbQY_CI
― marcos, Thursday, 30 July 2015 18:33 (ten years ago)
Ah man, he lost his Switzerland studio and archive last night.
http://www.okayplayer.com/news/lee-scratch-perry-studio-burned-down.html
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2015 00:19 (ten years ago)
I noticed that the Trojan 2cds that I thought had been deleted were back in HMV. Amazon has a 2015 release date for them.Dub Triptych is talked about upthread. Though I think by content with a link instead of a name. It's Cloak&Dagger, Blackboard and Revolution dub and pretty great.Ape-ology has the Jamaican versions of the 2 Super Ape lps alongside Roast Fish, Collie Weed and a few stray singles and session tracks.Dubstrumentals has Kung Fu meets The Dragon and 2 other 70s lps.Babylon A Fall is also a 2cd compi but I don't think it's lp related.
Somewhere I have a copy of Grand Royal with a buying guide for him.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 5 December 2015 08:26 (ten years ago)
interview with Lee and his wife about it here. I didn't realise that dude lives twenty minutes from where I work!
― Siegbran, Saturday, 5 December 2015 09:21 (ten years ago)
His positivity in the face of this loss (on his FB) is incredible.
― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 5 December 2015 14:33 (ten years ago)
I almost always prefer the originals to the dubs of Perry's productions. Are there any instances where someone else created dubs of his tracks? Am I forgetting an obvious collab?
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 27 October 2017 22:22 (eight years ago)
I can't think of any off the top of my head. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would just pass Upsetters tracks out to other producers.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 27 October 2017 22:34 (eight years ago)
Only Jamaican-sourced reporting at present, but it appears he died this morning.
https://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Lee_Scratch_Perry_is_dead
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 29 August 2021 14:54 (four years ago)
Wow if true, though of course that guy lived a life.I thought he still resided in Switzerland?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 15:03 (four years ago)
Youth has posted about it - he heard via friend who lives in Jamacia.
― mark e, Sunday, 29 August 2021 15:23 (four years ago)
Ah fuck. :(
RIP
― pomenitul, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:41 (four years ago)
What a life. RIP.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:49 (four years ago)
I interviewed him once and it was exactly what you'd expect. One part lucid, one part lunacy that you just kind of went with. The entire time there were parrots squawking in the background.
Modestly disappointed at how he's being presented as a Jamaican music pioneer, which of course he is, but his approach to the studio stretched so much farther than just reggae and dub. The guy really knew how to sculpt space.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 16:56 (four years ago)
absolute legend. among the most innovative of alltime. and prolific — the amount of classic music he's at least partially responsible for, holy hell.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 29 August 2021 17:00 (four years ago)
R.I.P., just a titan of sound. Agreed that his influence went way beyond reggae.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:05 (four years ago)
Anyone seeking a quick way in should try this compilation from 2007 or so:
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/819Id8LOj6L.jpg
This one, which combines Super Ape, Return of the Super Ape, and Roast Fish, Collie Weed & Cornbread on two CDs, is also great.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81FzmyNXPhL.jpg
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:10 (four years ago)
been blasting out that huge Arkology comp from '97 which was the first LSP thing I ever bought.
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:17 (four years ago)
Damn RIP to a real oneThe “Arkology” three disc set has been in my ancient car’s 6 disc changer for literally years now. I never get tired of it
― caddy lac brougham? (will), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:20 (four years ago)
ha xpost
Yeah, that Arkology compilation was revelatory to me at the time in terms of understanding the scope of his recordings and influence. (And it doesn't even touch on his Wailers and other earlier work.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:21 (four years ago)
I'm a big fan of the full albums he produced for others, Max Romeo, Junior Byles, stuff like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:22 (four years ago)
Heart of the Congos and War Ina Babylon definitely among his most amazing work.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:24 (four years ago)
Yeah, Congos OTM. a high water mark in any context.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:26 (four years ago)
THere wasa great article in one o9f the first couple of Beastie Boys magazine Grand Royal that i found very useful.It may be up online somewhere.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 18:38 (four years ago)
yeah I made a single disc comp of my fav arkology tracks and it’s like the best “album” ever
― brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:13 (four years ago)
it simply has to include Errol Walker's In These Times!
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:15 (four years ago)
plz share if possible, brimstead
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:17 (four years ago)
Roots Train - Junior Murvin/Dillinger is such a banger
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:19 (four years ago)
xp
here you go, just one human's opinion but these are all beautiful tracks. yes i do love the police and theives/dreadlock in moonlight riddimThe Meditations - Life Is Not EasyJunior Murvin - TediousThe Heptones & Jah Lion - Mr. PresidentMax Romeo - Chase The DevilLee Perry - Dreadlocks In MoonlightErrol Walker - In These TimesMax Romeo & The Upsetters - NormanJunior Murvin - Police And ThievesUpsetters - No Peace DubThe Upsetters - Party Time (Part 2)Augustus Pablo Meets The Upsetter - Vibrate OnThe Upsetters - VibratorThe Upsetters - Bird In HandThe Congoes - CongomanGeorge Faith - To Be A Lover (Have Some Mercy)Lee Perry - Curly Locks
― brimstead, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:23 (four years ago)
oops idk about the formatting there, copied it from another thread
RIP u crazy genius, just put Arkology on at floor-shaking volume
― sleeve, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:28 (four years ago)
I really love The Super Ape album from '76 as well
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:38 (four years ago)
thanks, brimstead, looks sick
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:38 (four years ago)
"stand for the right and mash up the wrong"
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:39 (four years ago)
Don't feel worthy or ready to comment on his passing tbh. 85 is a good age to have reached though!
― "Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:42 (four years ago)
just put on ape-ology. in terms of reissues, this was probably one of my most anticipated albums of all time.
must concur on heart of the congos, police and thieves, + war ina babylon: all complete and total classics.
if we're repping for personal favorites, i've long had a strong affinity for the late 70s album he produced by seke molenga + kalo kawongolo. very much music of the promised land.
― things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:50 (four years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjj0CE5njfc
― calzino, Sunday, 29 August 2021 19:52 (four years ago)
yeah got to recommend those Trojan 2cd sets by Perry. Apeology, Dub Triptych, Dubstrumentals, Wonderman Years, I think I'm missing a couple but they mopped up a load of the Material that I'd wanted since getting that Grand Royal piece on him
― Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:45 (four years ago)
Disco Devil, The Black Ark Years, Babylon A fall & A Live injection were other titles.Also the early Wailers set Trenchtown Rock is mainly Perry produced I think. does also include some later 70s Marley stuff with him.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
'Super Ape Returns to Conquer' which was between a remix/new album with his last touring band and Adrian Sherwood from 2017 is a really good listen. That one was on my CD player for months.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsubatomicsound.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2FSuperApe-1200x.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
― earlnash, Sunday, 29 August 2021 20:57 (four years ago)
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Sunday, 29 August 2021 21:27 (four years ago)
rip to the only person on this planet who actually knew how to use a computer https://t.co/VPLC1xaERG pic.twitter.com/C8tuSrN0qA— Kyle McDonald (@kcimc) August 29, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 29 August 2021 22:10 (four years ago)
Things I will do when I rob a bank pt38: buy the entire Blood and Fire catalogue.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 14 October 2022 19:03 (three years ago)
I love Yabby You, so continue to buy the Pressure Sounds reissues despite the well being bone dry, but I did luck into a copy of Jesus Dread on vinyl four years ago for well under discogs prices at the time because the box corners had been separated. The vinyl was barely played but something had split the corners of the box so it didn't close properly. It was sitting on a pile behind the counter and I managed to snag it pretty cheap.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 14 October 2022 19:18 (three years ago)
There's a YouTube channel called Black Ark Nuggets and there is unsurprisingly some absolute gold on therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sryk65q51_8I mean how about this then― paolo, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:29 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sryk65q51_8
I mean how about this then
― paolo, Friday, 14 October 2022 18:29 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
holy shit
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:52 (three years ago)
for the record I am reacting to Tommy McCook & Prophets - Death Trap (prod Yabby You i think?)
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 14 October 2022 21:55 (three years ago)
I'm not sure about these days but back in the day if you've got someone who produces a track and then someone else does a dub of it then the person who does the dub would be referred to as the engineer right?
So for example that track above the B-side says produced by V Jackson but on the label it says King Tubby's. So even with the dub Yabby You would be the producer and Tubbs would be the engineer if I'm understanding correctly
― paolo, Saturday, 15 October 2022 08:29 (three years ago)
Live Trap / Death Trap rules like fire. Are there many tracks with flute in the reggae canon? Tommy McCook absolutely kills it.
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Concentration by Dennis Brown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Lg2p68yTw
You get more flute action on the dub. Lovely stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hXBOFk_G_Y
― paolo, Saturday, 15 October 2022 08:33 (three years ago)
Bubble Up by Wayne Jarrett (a Wackies production recently touched on in the Congos poll thread) is a great and thoroughly fluted-uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5Xa9ErqeFM
― Tim, Sunday, 16 October 2022 14:04 (three years ago)
rightly, wow
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 16 October 2022 17:16 (three years ago)
More flute, on-topic for the thread this time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HucNiALhqx0
― Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:05 (three years ago)
(for the purposes for a broken-link future, that's Nice and Easy by Susan Cadogan, produced by Scratch)
― Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 10:06 (three years ago)
That Susan Cadogan track is fire. And then youtube algorithm gave me the whole album and it's fantastic, never heard it
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 17 October 2022 12:56 (three years ago)
(I love it. Minor trivia point: two off the tracks on the LP are covers of songs from the classic Doris Duke LP "I'm a Loser", it seems lock and odd but inspired choice to find songs so suited to SC's rather ethereal vocal style on a full-throated gospelly southern soul vocal record)
― Tim, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:35 (three years ago)
Are there different versions of the album? I thought Island just changed the title and cover because they were worried about appearing racist?
― Cow_Art, Monday, 17 October 2022 14:56 (three years ago)
Check out these tribute mixes! Over six hours of goodness, mostly focusing on Scratch's more obscure output
http://mikusmusik.blogspot.com/2015/08/rainford-rules-strictly-lee-perry.html
― paolo, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 12:46 (three years ago)
In the blurb it says 'In fact, considering the esteem in which he is now held he supposedly had relatively few big hits in JA, and to some extent it was UK audiences that really clicked with his sound and helped cement his legacy.' Is that correct?
Very cool find. Anyone else have an issue downloading Volume 1? It cuts off after a minute.
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 13:35 (three years ago)
And yeah, from the little I've read, that does seem to be a fact about UK audiences, but that was true for a lot of Jamaican artists at that time, none more so than Bob Marley. See also: Mikey Dread
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 19 October 2022 13:36 (three years ago)
delighted to see The Battle for Armageddon reissued as i could never find a decent recording or streaming version of it (for a long time only had it on cassette taped by a friend at school). not a remaster afaict but it sounds good. https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/lee-scratch-perry-battle-of-armagideon-2cd-expanded-edition/
― Fizzles, Monday, 15 May 2023 17:26 (three years ago)
The I Am A Madman dub is quite a thing iirc, I also recall lots of mediocrity on that LP though. “Grooving” is probably my favourite.
― Tim, Monday, 15 May 2023 18:37 (three years ago)