she apologized anyway
https://33.media.tumblr.com/b8c2af1f7b2568bae78a197b510b8f6e/tumblr_nevl7apUQ81qm7x4so1_1280.jpg
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
The buried lede is "one of my best friends hired an artist with no knowledge of the 20th century"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
anyone actually know anything about this metalocalypse thing she cites
love nicki but that's the kind of non-apology we usually disdain
dunno why she didn't just go the (plausible) "trying to subvert white supremacy in the name of art" route though that would've possibly gone down better to a song with less basic lyrics
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
I was pretty offended by Drake and Wayne explaining why they hadn't yet fucked Nicki; I guess I'm a prude
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:11 (nine years ago) link
plus Chris Brown overseeing it allyuck
― Walter MIDI (Crabbits), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
metalocalypse is some late night cartoon network shit from a little less than a decade ago about a metal band that ruled the world or something, i'm sure they exploited some fascist iconography on it
kind of hilarious to see an artist describing the pernicious influences that made them think it was cool to make grey footage of stormtroopers wearing armbands
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
"i think this should be in black & white...y'know like it was filmed in sin city"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
"i'm gonna give drake one of those funny hats old powerful people wear"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:18 (nine years ago) link
she said she takes full responsibility which already raises her several miles above the bar
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:23 (nine years ago) link
Metalocalpyse is a spoof of extreme/death metal/etc with a fictional band called Dethklok but they got popular enough to actually tour big clubs, they have a famous metal session guy as drummer
― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:25 (nine years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 11:10 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha is there literally anything Nicki does that isn't subverting something? like does she wake up in the morning and subvert her bowl of cereal?
― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
just got an image of an album cover where she's sitting down with a bowl of froot loops on her head
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
maybe there'll be a franken berry tie-in soon
― maura, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:40 (nine years ago) link
When she said she'd let Drake and Lil' Wayne eat her ass like a cupcake, she really 'flipping' the digestive system.
― 3×5, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 17:54 (nine years ago) link
metalocalypse was pretty great and absolutely had all kinds of weird illuminati vs fascism subplots; it's worth noting it's by the same guy who did Home Moviesvery weird way to shift blame there
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
she needs to apologize for releasing nothing but flops this year
although i like 'yasss bish'
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
lol the artist has spoken, and clearly wants us to know his knowledge of art and culture extends beyond the last ten years
Before I start, be clear that these are my personal views and not the views of Nicki Minaj, Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, or Young Money.First, I’m not apologizing for my work, nor will I dodge the immediate question. The flags, armbands, and gas mask (and perhaps my use of symmetry?) are all representative of Nazism.
But a majority of the recognizable models/symbols are American: MQ9 Reaper Drone, F22 Raptor, Sidewinder missile, security cameras, M60, SWAT uniform, General’s uniform, the Supreme court, and the Lincoln Memorial. What’s also American is the 1st Amendment, which I’ve unexpectedly succeeded in showing how we willfully squeeze ourselves out of that right every day.
Despite the fact heavy religious and economic themes were glossed over, there’s also Russian T-90 tanks, Belgian FN FAL, German mp5 (not manufactured until 1966), an Italian Ferrari, and a Vatican Pope.
As far as an explanation, I think its actually important to remind younger generations of atrocities that occurred in the past as a way to prevent them from happening in the future. And the most effective way of connecting with people today is through social media and pop culture. So if my work is misinterpreted because it’s not a sappy tearjerker, sorry I’m not sorry. What else is trending?
lol "why did i dress up pop stars in the iconography of a genocidal regime? to prevent such atrocities from happening again." this fucking guy
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
so where did nicki get "metalocalypse" from
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
Those who forget history are doomed to eat Nicki Minaj's b-hole
― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
What’s also American is the 1st Amendment, which I’ve unexpectedly succeeded in showing how we willfully squeeze ourselves out of that right every day.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link
(and perhaps my use of symmetry?)
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:43 (nine years ago) link
geometry teachers teaching isosceles triangles, please note
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:44 (nine years ago) link
haha is there literally anything Nicki does that isn't subverting something? like does she wake up in the morning and subvert her bowl of cereal?― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkjust got an image of an album cover where she's sitting down with a bowl of froot loops on her head― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalinkmaybe there'll be a franken berry tie-in soon― maura, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
― punk rocketeer (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:26 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― linda cardellini (zachlyon), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― maura, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
Usher beat her to it tho
― 龜, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:46 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/fjeQBVC.png
Well I guess this isn't really a subversion
Looking forward to Nicki's hot take
maybe "a. loucas" started blathering about sin city when nicki started yelling at him, both having been duped by this artist into reminding kids about atrocities
"ugh...is this song just wayne drake and nicki dry humping each other? that's it, i'm making nicki cobra commander and drake a celibate"
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link
And the one billionth internet rage to let's make fun of apology circlejerk continues. *Sigh* I just want the album.
― lilsoulbrother, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 20:59 (nine years ago) link
Sorry your product consumption is being interrupted by reminders of atrocities, sheeple
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
i cant imagine being 'offended' by it, it is hilarious though
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:36 (nine years ago) link
like how could they not realize what they were doing?
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
very bizarre video
artists are running political campaigns right now, nicki's stumbling quite a bit, i wonder what nate silver thinks about her odds of selling more than 80k
― da croupier, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:05 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
But how is acting fake outrage any better? There have been more offensive, cultural things out there that remind people of historical atrocities. This is very small scale on that barometer. For the past few years, the glut of "offensive" pop culture news headlines has gotten to the point that dialogue isn't really made and follow through. Instead, the people offended just want to be seen as smarter than everyone in the room and offender get more attention than they probably deserved. In this case, the director who did seem like a dick on his twitter page. It's just a circle jerk that feeds people's egos.
― lilsoulbrother, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:15 (nine years ago) link
what are more offensive cultural things out there?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:21 (nine years ago) link
and how does lil soul brother determine what is "fake" outrage
the thing is, this kind of IS like a clickhole article parodying outrage or something, i mean its a god damn godwin's law version of 'blurred lines'
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
ill take my first post back, ~obviously~ i can see how this would offend people, but ffs
i guess it's like idk...i sense that maybe if you're someone whose family went through shit in WW2 or w/e there'd be something offensive about artists who enjoy using such fascist imagery as a fashion statement, which is what it is first and foremost. distant second is some subversive shit i guess.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
the tone deaf clumsiness of her political campaign is a secondary tragedy to the mind-numbing banality of her recent music
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
that alex ross article about the frankfurt school arguments coming back into fashion was spot on, feel like those dissensus dudes who were concerned about the fascistic impulse of juelz santana records were just a few years too early.
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
like artists who claim they're apolitical abt this fashion statement, they just like how it looks...i mean the fashion itself was a political statement when it was being used by its progenitors.
― LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67lKPD_PIpQ
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:31 (nine years ago) link
in this dystopian present there will be a subcaste of people who cosplay and dance complex choreographed numbers to nicki minaj for money one day they shall rise
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:36 (nine years ago) link
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 11, 2014 2:21 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Any cultural object/artifact (movie, toy, book, etc.) whose sole intent is to reinforce a minority is lesser than the majority consuming said cultural object. That was more prevalent in the past than now, but these things still exist. I think the "Only" lyric video wasn't meant to reinforce a negative opinion on a particular minority directly. It was just a failed attempt to be dark/edgy for Nicki. I guess a way to notify that "rap" Nicki was still going to be present on her album.
By two weeks, some other video/picture/whatever will replace the "Only" lyric video as the next thing to be offended by.
― lilsoulbrother, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link
star movies cafe in the philippines is a thing btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBD7PDUXEmg
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link
you would almost think there's a lot of offensive, stupid shit in the world
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:44 (nine years ago) link
like yes personally my reaction to fascist imagery underscoring self-made young money slash fiction was more "lol idiots" than "how dare you" but i don't begrudge the adl taking it a little more seriously and i definitely am not ready to say the problem with the world these days is too much sensitivity
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 22:49 (nine years ago) link
isnt it entirely possible that this was intended to outrage
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
did you read the apologies? i'd say "yes" re: the director (in a "what's wrong with being sexy?" sense) and "no" re: nicki
― da croupier, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link
v brashly cynical
― deej loaf (D-40), Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link
praying some reporter bridges the gap between "i wanted to teach the children through a dense tapestry of iconography" and "he got the idea from metalocalypse"
― da croupier, Wednesday, 12 November 2014 01:18 (nine years ago) link