Another formal Eno co-write, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 11 November 2014 02:20 (nine years ago) link
Red Sails to Repetition = one of the great album stretches of the 70s
― livid in America (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link
It's definitely a great stretch of tracks, but I kinda feel that way about the whole album... even 'Red Money'! Definitely fair to say that this is one of my favourite Bowie LP's alongside Station To Station and Low.
― Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 11 November 2014 04:29 (nine years ago) link
never heard this one before this week, i'm astounded at what an amazing record could have been just sitting there in the world all this time when i could have loved it any number of years ago—like, any bowie discontent of my own aside, i would have been primed for it.
on another thread someone posted owen p saying bowie was a grating, irritating singer, which i definitely feel has merit for a lot of his records, not always but certainly in consistent parts of his technique that one just has to accept as part of his thing. so one thing i noticed right away about this record is that he's still doing *most* everything that he usually does as a vocalist, but in the context of the record the grating and irritating aspects seem to have been smoothed down or eliminated. which given that he often sounds like he's singing on an eno record or sometimes is straight up imitating david byrne, is itself interesting. maybe like he leaned slightly toward these models which were not all that far apart from his usual singing in the first place, but which grounded it somehow.
there are even parts where he just sounds like he's actually singing all out, mannerisms dropped.
― j., Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:37 (eight years ago) link
this album is just called "lodger" not "the lodger"
― akm, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 05:20 (eight years ago) link
The other's a Hitchock silent starring a famous Welsh actor, no?
― Bewlay Brothers & Sister Ray (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 06:23 (eight years ago) link
You are welcome here, artcle police
― spiritual hat gaz (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 11:46 (eight years ago) link
yeah this record is awesome -- going through a complete discography play this week, and so far, it's pretty easily my favorite
― Dominique, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 13:48 (eight years ago) link
"Look Back in Anger" may be his most rocking track, maybe my favorite deep cut. This album also has "Fantastic Voyage" and "Move On," two other favorite deep cuts. And then "DJ" and "Boys" are both awesome cuts, too, obviously. Lots of great stuff. I'd say the anarchy of this album is really appealing, but "Scary Monsters" is a tad sharper for all its superficial similarities.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link
Also "Yassassin' and 'African Night Flight'.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link
I like the first song a lot, though the MO of the latter seems way more Eno than Bowie (nothing wrong with that). Mentioned above, but Eno gets co-write credit on most of this disc,
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Always wanted to start a thread about songs like 'African Night Flight' and Joni Mitchell's 'The Jungle Line' in which big rock artists go 'exotic'.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:33 (eight years ago) link
Brian Eno – synthesizers, ambient drone, prepared piano, cricket menace, guitar treatments, horse trumpet, eroica horn, piano, backing vocals
"African Night Flight" is the one featuring "cricket menace."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:35 (eight years ago) link
"Red Sails", you guys.
― Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:36 (eight years ago) link
... it's "Monza" by Harmonia with Bowie on vocals, Adrian Belew on guitar. That'll do for me.
― Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:37 (eight years ago) link
i really love this record and it is definitely my favourite when I am listening to it and shouting about THE HINTERLAND and THUNDER OCEAN.
― woof, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
FAFAFAFAFAFAFA
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:49 (eight years ago) link
my favorite Bowie album
octave jump on "Move On" -- "somewhere someone's calling me / when the chips are downnnnnnnnn" = LOVE
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:04 (eight years ago) link
this is my favorite of the 'berlin trilogy'
― banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:18 (eight years ago) link
AYAOOHAYAOOH
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:20 (eight years ago) link
Cyprus is my island
― Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
in fan voyage love how he takes that trailing interrogative in "we'll never say anything nice again, will we?" - it should just hang loose at the end there, an afterthought - but he just fucking hits it & pushes itweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
― woof, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link
yes
― sleeve, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link
I've been playing all my Bowie songs on random this week and Move On practically lept from the speakers. That is a titanic song.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:29 (eight years ago) link
"All the Young Dudes" backwards!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link
Is that what the weird background vocals are? Another "how did he do that" riddle solved. Now if I can only figure out what musical instrument is producing that crazy sound during the verses of TVC15.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYgNomvJpMs
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
Well, I'll be damned.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:42 (eight years ago) link
Now if I can only figure out what musical instrument is producing that crazy sound during the verses of TVC15.
I assumed those were falsetto vocals, but now that I listen more closely, who the fuck knows. Sounds like something on a loop, almost.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link
sounds like fuzzy guitar to me, if we're listening to the same part.
belew is so great on lodger. one thing i love about the mix is how his solos sound like they were beamed in from a studio on another planet and just left as is.
― home organ, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link
This album rules. "Fantastic Voyage" may be one of my favorite all-time tunes. "Never say anything nice again will we?" definitely an incredible moment. The lyrics in this song are amazing. "We're learning to live with somebody's depression".
"Move On" is really nice. Sails....moving on.... voyages... there is a lot of travelling on this album. Maybe the Krautrock/motorik influence?
I like the queasy feeling on "Repetition". "Red Money" is a nice way to close out but I may have had it ruined by hearing Iggy's superior "Sister Midnight" first.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
Space Oddity - hunky dory - ziggy stardust is my favorite run. Love those three albums. Actually not completely sold on the berlin trilogy.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link
think of it as dream pop
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3L58KyHC_M
I'll probably be the odd man out on this thread, but I've never understood the sequencing on this album. Opening with Look Back in Anger, Boys and DJ would have made more sense to me.
― Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:19 (eight years ago) link
it's a fantastic voyage!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link
the wrong words make you listen
ha yeah it works conceptually I suppose. I'm just not crazy about side one of this album.
― Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
the side with "African Nighe Flight," "Move On," "Yassassin," and "Red Sails"?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link
that's the one! I don't know. Maybe I need to give it another listen...
― Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
You're the odd man out.
― Narayan Superman (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:27 (eight years ago) link
I usually am!
Reading Strange Facination by David Buckley (Alfred - I think you recommended this in another Bowie thread?) and he alludes to lots of material going unreleased that may see the light of day upon Bowie's passing.
― Darin, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:35 (eight years ago) link
My favourite on this record is 'Look Back In Anger', because drums.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
woah i love side one. the sequencing on this album is perfect. i like "DJ" opening side 2.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link
side one is "Another Green World"-style dream-pop, side two is mutant disco
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:47 (eight years ago) link
I like how 'Boys Keep Swinging' is exactly the same chords as 'Fantastic Voyage', but with everyone on the "wrong" instruments and a different topline.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link
Long time ago, I thought it was John Lennon doing the "waiting so long, I've been waiting so long" vocals on Don't Look Back.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
xpost yes and they are pretty simple chords. it's all a lot of open A's and E's and D's and G's. nothing really fancy. these are his punk records, pretty much. just really simple straight-ahead songs that have been altered and skewed.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
Scary Monsters always has seemed to get higher praise than Lodger, but I think Lodger is a far more consistent record. I always felt Scary Monsters dropped off a little on side 2.
― Turrican, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
― pplains
I've always thought they sound like George Harrison!
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link