The Pet Shop Boys' first twenty singles...

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"Neil: Joni Mitchell's Hejira"

!!!

The man has impeccable taste.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

At least two good "Numbs": Portishead and the Jamelia cover of the Linkin Park song, obviously.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

The man has impeccable taste

So does Chris!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

The best "Numb" is actually Sia's. Fact.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really get the "Numb" hate either. Alfred is definitely OTM though: fine as an album track, headscratcher as a single.

Oh, and Geir, IIRC "London" was a German only single release.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Slight off-topic: do you guys prefer the re-recorded version of "A Man Could Get Arrested" or the version released as the B-side to "West End Girls" (and currently found on the Please reissue)? The B-side version has real drums, bass, and zealous backup singers; it's possibly the only concession to mid eighties production fads they ever recorded – and all the better for it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Numb" is not really that much of a headscratcher for a single. At this point the aim, I would imagine, is to try to sell more copies of the album -- by attracting non-fans of the Boys who hadn't bought it the first week. So they tried to do this by releasing something that the public wouldn't peg (and immediately dismiss) as a typical PSB song ("Integral"). It didn't work, but it made sense in some ways.

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

The funny thing about the two versions of "A Man..." is that the "7" version" is actually 40 seconds longer than the "12" version." Brilliant! Also, one and one is not two.

(I can't choose between the two, no.)

brittle-lemon (brittle-lemon), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yes! Their unofficial website has transcribed the favorite-records bit. Neil: Joni Mitchell's Hejira and "True Faith"; Chris: Rick Astley's Whenever You Need Somebody.

For some strange and unexplainable reason, I have the impression that Neil Tennant solo would have been at least just as great as Pet Shop Boys :)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

Btw. interesting how Neil picks an attempt at ripping off the Pet Shop Boys' sound as his favourite track of all time.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Neil Tennant solo would have been an insufferable folkie; or, better, a male Suzanne Vega.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was just looking at a new release page and stumbled upon a new PSB book.

s w00ds (sw00ds), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, "London" WAS a single!
I have the two discs to prove it!
It's even got Westbam and Felix TH mixes and everything

rentboy (rentboy), Sunday, 5 November 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

"London" was a German only single. It never received an official domestic release in the UK, and so was not included on PopArt.

David Bachyrycz (David Bachyrycz), Sunday, 5 November 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
New ILM needed this thread! (also cuz I heard "Was It Worth It?" this morning and it sounded ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...

I'll repeat this question, as I was listening to it driving home:

Slight off-topic: do you guys prefer the re-recorded version of "A Man Could Get Arrested" or the version released as the B-side to "West End Girls" (and currently found on the Please reissue)? The B-side version has real drums, bass, and zealous backup singers; it's possibly the only concession to mid eighties production fads they ever recorded – and all the better for it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 23 June 2007 03:35 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Such brilliant thread. Made me put on Alternative disc 1, which I hardly ever listen to since there is a disc 2. PSB might not be the best pop group in the world (or actually they might just be) but they are to me the most important pop act ever.

ConnieXX, Sunday, 20 April 2008 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

"Was It Worth it?" deserves more love.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 20 April 2008 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

LOST IN THE HIGH STREET
WHERE THE DOGS RUN
ROAMING SUBURBAN BOYS

stephen, Monday, 28 April 2008 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

i can say this as a reformed cynic of love and all that goes with it: "love comes quickly" is to me one of the best songs ever. the couplet "just when you least expect it/just what you least expect" is, in delivery and sentiment, devastating.

soup kitchen electro (omar little), Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:14 (seventeen years ago)

Erasure were a better band, a better singles act, and have a better discography than the Pet Shop Boys

Go Go Padgett Binoculars (The stickman from the hilarious 'xkcd' comics), Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:16 (seventeen years ago)

so very wrong

rentboy, Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

great thing about pet shop boys is that you can dig the lyrics whether a cynic of love or a reformed cynic of love.

Gukbe, Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

I love this thread. What the hell ever happened to Tom (Groke)?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:37 (seventeen years ago)

Best PSB single: "Domino Dancing"

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 14 December 2008 02:38 (seventeen years ago)

Great thing about PSB: You can listen to the music and vocalist and still get the emotion.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:38 (seventeen years ago)

Popjustice, predictably, getting excited about their new single. I'm sure it's going to be pretty awful, because let's face it, "I'm With Stupid" was completely shit.

how can you mend a broken hat? (edwardo), Sunday, 14 December 2008 03:58 (seventeen years ago)

omar otm

Suggesteban Buttez (jabba hands), Sunday, 14 December 2008 06:42 (seventeen years ago)

Disco 3 is going in my top 10 favorites of this decade.

Eazy, Sunday, 14 December 2008 08:01 (seventeen years ago)

"love comes quickly" is to me one of the best songs ever.

And so underrated. The curious thing is that I always forget how wonderful it is. Then, every time I hear it, I'm floored by its beauty and power.
I've always thought that its pretty but inchoate video let it down, and I recently read an interview with the director in which he declared it a "disaster". (That said, it's a masterpiece by comparison to the clip for Let's Go All the Way, which remains my all-time benchmark for visual incoherency.)

Former Golden Boy, Sunday, 14 December 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I'm sure this has been asked before (probably on this very thread!) but I'll ask again since there's no some time and distance:

Are the reissued albums worth getting if you own Alternative?

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

Yes indeed -- some of the versions of the B-sides are different, plus all the remixes, various oddities, etc. Not to mention stellar sound and the great song-for-song liner notes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:40 (seventeen years ago)

"Darling you were wonderful, you really were Quite Good!"

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 January 2009 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

Yes yes and yes. (A Man Could Get Arrested appears in 7" version, rather than the '12" Alternative mix', and Paninaro, Don Juan, We All Feel Better In The Dark, Losing My Mind and Music For Boys all appear in different mixes to the 7" versions that Alternative has. Plus there are about 50 non-b-side tracks, AND all the post-Alternative b-sides. And it's pretty much worth it for the commentary alone.)

Lightbulb Classic (sic), Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:19 (seventeen years ago)

the version of "A Man Could Get Arrested" on the Please reissue is fabulous! One of my favorite PSB songs, period.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 January 2009 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

To honor the thread starter: his new Guardian piece on two of those singles in particular:

http://bit.ly/KzBxe

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

Great piece, although I wish he said a bit more about "Being Boring". Really looking forward to his blurb about "West End Girls" on Popular.

one boob is free with one (daavid), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:50 (sixteen years ago)

God, I never made the connection between Tom (Groke) and Tom Ewing. Ugh. But it's a lovely piece, and his first post here is one of my favorite bits of fan writing.

Roman Polanski now sleeps in prison. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 October 2009 01:59 (sixteen years ago)

Why doesn't he post on ILM anymore? Or maybe he does under another alias?

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 2 October 2009 02:59 (sixteen years ago)

He checks in every so often. Job, family, etc. keep him pretty busy and his Internet time is concentrated on Freaky Trigger (and Twitter!).

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 October 2009 03:03 (sixteen years ago)

― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 2 October 2009 12:59

― Groke, Thursday, 1 October 2009 23:22

New Wavves (sic), Friday, 2 October 2009 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

I find this perspective on the Pet Shot Boys pretty compelling, and I share Tom's love for almost all these singles.

And yet, "Liberation" is one of my favorite of them all. All those gorgeous interlocking rhythm-guitar and synth riffs, the kaleidoscopic movement through different tonal regions, the lush stacked vocals at the end of the chorus. I like the tenderness and vulnerability of the lyrics, too -- Neil seems less arch, less detached.

So I guess I don't really buy the thesis here.

Paul in Santa Cruz, Friday, 2 October 2009 05:54 (sixteen years ago)

Sorting that out a bit more clearly: I agree with the idea that there's something magical about these songs, but not with the notion that Liberation breaks the spell.

Paul in Santa Cruz, Friday, 2 October 2009 05:56 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

This is all of them, shockingly, but mix in their even better 7-EP run from The Grand Hour ('93) to Tigerbomb ('95) and you have 22

1 Motor Away (1995)
2 The Official Ironmen Rally Song (1996)
3 Cut-Out Witch (1996)
4 Bulldog Skin (1967)
5 I Am A Tree (1997)
6 Teenage FBI (1999)
7 Surgical Focus (1999)
8 Glad Girls (2001)
9 Chasing Heather Crazy (2001)
10 Universal Truths And Cycles (2002)
11 Everywhere With Helicopter (2002)
12 Cheyenne (2002)
13 Back To The Lake (2003)
14 My Kind Of Soldier (2003)
15 The Best Of Jill Hives (2003)

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 26 December 2009 16:49 (sixteen years ago)

Is it wrong that I like the bangin' house mix of "Liberation" that is entirely unrecognizable to the original so so so much?

Restless Genital Syndrome (HI DERE), Saturday, 26 December 2009 16:57 (sixteen years ago)

xpost their his

Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 26 December 2009 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

five months pass...

First-rate.

Filmmaker, Author, Radio Host Stephen Baldwin (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 May 2010 17:36 (sixteen years ago)

I was just thinking about this thread today -- and Dan's eternal hatred of "Domino Dancing."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 30 May 2010 18:26 (sixteen years ago)

i still don't get the hate 4 'domino dancing' tbh. 'viva la vida' tho transcends everything else coldplay have ever done by so far that you doubt it's actually by them.

taojjbtcrf (or something), Sunday, 30 May 2010 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

Well, there's your seal of approval!

http://twitter.com/petshopboys/status/15184937448

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 June 2010 15:38 (sixteen years ago)


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