Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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Hmmm...trying to justify being OK with just the 2 disc version of this...you guys are making it difficult!

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:27 (eleven years ago)

i don't have the book yet...

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:30 (eleven years ago)

it better come with some where's waldo-type puzzles or something to be worth the $$

"where's levon?"

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:03 (eleven years ago)

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/01/bob-dylan-basement-tapes-nonsense-released

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:18 (eleven years ago)

huh, the motorcycle accident is disputed/perhaps mythical? I'd never heard that before

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:22 (eleven years ago)

he was using tarantula venom to stimulate creativity iirc, the conspiracy theory goes that it results in the same spinal damage

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:26 (eleven years ago)

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:26 (eleven years ago)

Thought it might be based on his buddy, Richard Fariña.

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:26 (eleven years ago)

think there was always some skepticism that the crash was an excuse to get off the road/out of the public eye. i imagine some kind of accident happened, but the details of how badly dylan was actually hurt seem foggy.

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:28 (eleven years ago)

Never saw the accident disputed anywhere else, only the severity of his injuries.

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:29 (eleven years ago)

some details here:

http://wzlx.cbslocal.com/2014/07/29/bob-dylan-motorcycle-accident-1966/

sleeve, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:32 (eleven years ago)

i mean, in a certain sense i assume everything that i've ever heard about Dylan is about 50% myth

There Goes Ryan's Scion (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:53 (eleven years ago)

It's actually "Highway 30.5 Revisited."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 18:55 (eleven years ago)

There were 4 persons killed and he was at the wheel

salthigh, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:05 (eleven years ago)

wheel was on fire iirc

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:13 (eleven years ago)

went all the way till the wheels fell off and burned etc

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)

probably 2nd street

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:32 (eleven years ago)

arguably 4th street

I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:45 (eleven years ago)

you might be going somewhere after all

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:48 (eleven years ago)

She has half of what she needs

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:52 (eleven years ago)

This is no fun, the originals are all better.

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 19:54 (eleven years ago)

I liked See You Later Allen Ginsberg when the Zombies did it

i blow goat farts, aka garts for a living (waterface), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 20:54 (eleven years ago)

Think this was the first biography to confirm that motorcycle accident actually occurred, though haven't read it, so don't know details. Also revealed the marriage to gospel singer (they had kids? B'lieve so).And that was just the first edition!
http://www.howardsounes.com/assets/images/book_covers/bob_dylan_uk_new.jpg

Tyler, did you score a ticket to see Mr. D.?

dow, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (eleven years ago)

i didn't :/ -- tough for me to shell out the cash (even though tix were just about $50 at the box office). oh well!

tylerw, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 23:00 (eleven years ago)

FWIW, this is selling at Amazon Germany for two-thirds of the price Amazon UK are asking for it: €85 at Amazon Germany (= £66) compared with £102 at Amazon UK. Might be worth UK residents ordering from Germany and paying a little shipping to save a few quid.

Duke, Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:30 (eleven years ago)

Fopp are selling it for £70 in the UK

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:43 (eleven years ago)

Why is there a picture of Don Was on the cover of that book?

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 19:50 (eleven years ago)

Good point by Matos, re "Clothes Line Saga"and"Ode To Billy Joe." The former is life as many a young boondocker (def me 'n' Bobby Pre-D.) lived it much of the time, any real or reverie Billy Joes aside. Reminds me, was already thinking "Silent Weekend" is kissless cousing to "Lonely Weekends" by mid-60s Charlie Rich (wisely minus any paraphrase of the part where country, bluesy cat Charlie suddenly roars, "Well I make it all RIGHT," slams into a wall, and bops off into the rest of the chorus, which coming around again, "From-uh Mon-day mornin' 'til Fri-day night/But oh-h-h, those lone-some weekends").
Great fucking song, and recall BD name-checking Rich, along with Percy Mayfield (think Sir Douglas was mentioned in same mid-ish 60s interview). Also, R. Stone recently mentioned a reel labelled "Charley Rich" among the Basement (it was actually an attached garage) trove, maybe a home tape of Rich records, the reporter thought (what if it's all Rich covers though?!)

dow, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:31 (eleven years ago)

kissless *cousin*, that is; damn.

dow, Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:32 (eleven years ago)

if charlie rich secretly made a record with the band in saugerties ca. 1968 or something i'd be over the fucking moon

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:55 (eleven years ago)

lol

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 20:56 (eleven years ago)

Have you heard Charlie Rich version of "When Something Is Wrong With My Baby"?

Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:06 (eleven years ago)

yeah it rules, isn't that before the sam & dave version?

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 21:44 (eleven years ago)

Just seen a mini review of a Charlie Rich late 50s/early 60s compilation in the new Mojo. Love the Smash recordings set.

& just got the 2cd Raw set today and so far only heard 1st disc once but it sounds great. Looking forward to becoming familiar with it.

Stevolende, Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:00 (eleven years ago)

what's the name of the new charlie rich comp? i eat that shit up.

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:37 (eleven years ago)

ooh i like the version of the fleetwoods' "mr. blue" on this. so pretty.

I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 6 November 2014 22:38 (eleven years ago)

Charlie Rich compi is 'Lonely Weekends' on Hoodoo. It covers 58- 62.
Can't remember title of Smash recordings set but it's great. Is it 'It Ain't Gonna Be That Way'? Mainly hearing tracks at random on my walkman recently.

Stevolende, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:09 (eleven years ago)

what's the name of the new charlie rich comp? i eat that shit up.

ah, I would never have guessed that.

Mark G, Friday, 7 November 2014 09:36 (eleven years ago)

Arrived in the mail today. Lots of reading material. Took me a while to actually locate the six CDs!

Jazzbo, Friday, 7 November 2014 18:13 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

"Mary Lou, I Love You Too" is so good, can't believe this never made it out before. would be a jam on a Doug Sahm record. I guess Bob knew Doug by then? wonder what Springsteen thinks of this tune too. so good.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 1 December 2014 14:33 (eleven years ago)

what's the name of the new charlie rich comp? i eat that shit up.

See, I laugh at my own jokes..

Mark G, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:35 (eleven years ago)

Have we discussed this yet?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 10:17 (eleven years ago)

Now that the whole experience is behind him, Wikingsson has one final dream: "I want Dylan to release an official Columbia EP of the concert called Songs for Fredrick."

Awwwwwwwww....

Frank Cement (Mark G), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 12:08 (eleven years ago)

"How does it feel to be on your own?"

rising stones cross (anagram), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 13:20 (eleven years ago)

"JUDAS!!!"

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 2 December 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

Ahah. It would have been a classic (and gutsy) thing to do !

AlXTC from Paris, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

I selected all Dylan songs, but they just had these crappy Byrds versions."I've been there.
Thanks, will def check his podcast too. I hadn't read it before because I thought it would be some cybermogul treating himself to a million-dollar bash, or a dying fan's request, thus too sad.

About 23 tracks in, and it's fine: coverage tends to over-emph. the "realness": laidback stoner vibe and the good business move of stockpiling no-budget new song demos for coverage by other hitmakers. These tracks are fluid, but intense, or intent, and mostly covers so far (think most of the total is not original, but I haven't checked allll those credits yet). We get the emotional/stylistic range and levels at the core of his appeal from the beginning. Incl. the humor: much enjoy that "Folsom Prison Blues" here sounds like the Band is playing "dum dum dum dum doo wah diddy, talk about the boy from New York City," which totally fits the loose flair of D.'s singing (the convict, still regretful, is also getting cranked up on cellblock cocktails). This performance of "The Bells of Rhymney" starts reminding me of "All Tomorrow's Parties," to the further credit of both songs and their performers, incl. writers.

dow, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:01 (eleven years ago)

*press* coverage tends to over-emph, I meant.

dow, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:02 (eleven years ago)

haha I almost copied that same karaoke quote

sleeve, Tuesday, 2 December 2014 16:06 (eleven years ago)

No matter how he tortures his voice, it all works out (though: he knows when to start over in another key (not very often) and the road vets are unfazed, they've seen it all (prob had the occasional club patron come up onstage, when there was a stage. and demand to sing). Roots seem to incl Beats (the Beats were often, maybe always, at their best as performers, at least as recorded): festive & fatalistically-inclined, which go w both blues & country o course---no fingerprinting or sneers here, tho' the laid-back zingers of "Clothesline Saga" are up ahead.
But no matter how self-mocking or plain fun-loving he gets, or deeply empathetic for that matter (and so often relishing the flavor and texture and structure of songs and singing), what's coming through more and more is a sense of freaked-out, unappeasable accountability, I can't un-know that this is when he was supposedly all happy as a young hubby and pappy (they're in the garage so as not to disturb the tots). And while. sure he's letting off steam, and already "yowling like a tomcat up the backstairs," as I think xgau said of Planet Waves, he's also not million miles from the strung-out, mental relationship trap of "Dirge, also on PW, or the version of "Ballad of A Thin Man" (which recalls an interview: "When I say "you" I mean 'I') on Before The Flood. Both of those albums have him back with the Band, like something else has to come out, at least for a while (even if it has to get by "Forever Young). All going back to these sessions, at least as much as the '66 tour weirdness.

dow, Thursday, 4 December 2014 20:36 (eleven years ago)


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