amanda palmer's open poem to jonathan chait (and other crimes)

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i think it's fully possible she wants him to "explain" and not lose money, but no one's really arguing otherwise - the problem is that nobody wants an "explanation" from ghomeshi

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:12 (eleven years ago)

OK, but it does seem it's time to lambast AP again. I guess it would be different if it was Piers Morgan doing the questioning..

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:14 (eleven years ago)

and she's revealed in her facebook comments that she didn't go out of her way to be involved - fate went out of its way to involve her

i'm about to publish a book about how communication and openness trumps anger, hate and fear. these things can't be coincidental.

x post - mark you seem to be running around with the goalposts and i can't tell why

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:15 (eleven years ago)

in my experience most guests on bring-your-friends stage shows like APs aren't getting paid beyond air/cabfare & hotel

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:15 (eleven years ago)

because I don't know where the pitch is.

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:16 (eleven years ago)

the pitch is that amanda palmer's given a narcissistic response to her guest being revealed an abuser that's both predictable and stunning, and this is the thread where people go "omg i can't believe what a narcissist amanda palmer is"

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:18 (eleven years ago)

OK, thanks for the explanation(s) folks.

Cheers.

Mark G, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:19 (eleven years ago)

#NotAllAmandaPalmers

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:20 (eleven years ago)

Amandatudinal Beliefs

how's life, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:21 (eleven years ago)

i don't believe she has decided to keep him on the show, unless I missed something.

akm, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:22 (eleven years ago)

she's waiting for him to pull out probably

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 31 October 2014 14:23 (eleven years ago)

you're right, she hasn't decided whether to keep an abuser on her show, and is asking everyone to wish her cuddles and spread no hate until she does

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:23 (eleven years ago)

to those horrified by the ever-piling accusations against ghomeshi she has offered "i hear you."

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:24 (eleven years ago)

oh wait, i forgot she's also offering them a musical at bard college soon

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 14:28 (eleven years ago)

in my experience most guests on bring-your-friends stage shows like APs aren't getting paid beyond air/cabfare & hotel

― The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Friday, October 31, 2014 10:15 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

iirc it was "We will feed you beer, hug/high-five you up and down (pick your poison), give you merch and thank you mightily"

franklin, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)

Maybe when he gets on stage AP will sucker punch him in the side of the head.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 October 2014 15:25 (eleven years ago)

http://www.salon.com/2014/10/31/amanda_palmer_refuses_to_take_a_stand_on_jian_ghomeshi/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:19 (eleven years ago)

salon grudge-crush

mookieproof, Friday, 31 October 2014 17:27 (eleven years ago)

She probably doesn't want to alienate him for career reasons, since Adult Swim is handing out tv shows to rapists these days

?

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:28 (eleven years ago)

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2014/09/MTM_POSTER_.jpg

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:33 (eleven years ago)

ah

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 31 October 2014 17:34 (eleven years ago)

Anyway, a new new update:

https://www.facebook.com/amandapalmer/posts/10152578178708375

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:29 (eleven years ago)

Ghostwritten by Ani DiFranco

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 31 October 2014 18:42 (eleven years ago)

what were even the odds that ghomeshi was still like "oh yeah, can't wait to do the gig, amanda, what a great chance for me to tell toronto what's up"

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:56 (eleven years ago)

xp she is trolling us no?

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 31 October 2014 18:57 (eleven years ago)

like was there actually anything that required a day of debate or was this just a dramatic pause before the obvious cancellation

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:58 (eleven years ago)

I think it's quite likely that it was Ghomeshi who cancelled, not AP.

everything, Friday, 31 October 2014 18:59 (eleven years ago)

there was no way he was going to show up either way but there was also no way AP wasn't going to go 'let's not be hasty!' and churn up some facebook traffic and then 'do the right thing' in the end.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:03 (eleven years ago)

She always has to throw in some bullshit about how hateful and violent her own fans are.

you walk on the street, grab the rock (President Keyes), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:09 (eleven years ago)

there's a lot of unsubtle negging of her fanbase going on there

kissaroo and Tyler, too (DJP), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:14 (eleven years ago)

Well, her fans are obviously scum; they like her.

Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 31 October 2014 19:17 (eleven years ago)

wait

i have spent the last few days, doing my best amidst all-day rehearsals for a musical that opens on wednesday, to read and follow all of the stories that are coming out.

didn't she declare yesterday a day off for neil's birthday cuddles?

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:19 (eleven years ago)

(according to the internet his birthday is the 10th, fyi)

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:21 (eleven years ago)

Maybe it's some kinda sci-tie thetan birthday.

how's life, Friday, 31 October 2014 19:23 (eleven years ago)

That Salon article Ned posted is very good.

hyggeligt, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:17 (eleven years ago)

Agreed. I cannot understand how people can still respect her after this. At least she took Jian off the guest list after posting another Facebook cult-leader-like blog post, that's good, right?

DDD, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)

I really think that I've missed some obvious thing about AP? Is it a US thing? What exactly is the attraction of all of this?

hyggeligt, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:47 (eleven years ago)

She's the godmother of all stereotypical theater kids

DDD, Friday, 31 October 2014 20:48 (eleven years ago)

That makes a fair amount of sense. She does seem to have quite a big fanbase who can't all be theater kids.

hyggeligt, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:07 (eleven years ago)

she is a charismatic performer and some of her songs are good?

sarahell, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:14 (eleven years ago)

The Dresden Dolls had a piano-goth rock thing going in the early 00s, no idea whether her new music's any good cuz as she'll proudly tell you (for $$) it's mostly about cult of personality now, accent on cult

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:18 (eleven years ago)

I wonder what Neil Gaiman thinks of this.

cpl593H, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:22 (eleven years ago)

you mean people are fans of artists for reasons other than consistent quality output?

sarahell, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:25 (eleven years ago)

i just mean in the kickstarter/ted talk era i literally never hear about her promoting her music once it's made

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:37 (eleven years ago)

obv lots of acts nowadays are primarily playing for the same people they've played for for years, but she's the one releasing a book about how this is The Revolution

da croupier, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:38 (eleven years ago)

a crowdsourced book

maura, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:41 (eleven years ago)

and i mean she invited LEFSETZ

maura, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:41 (eleven years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Bob_Lefsetz_CMW_2009.jpg

franklin, Friday, 31 October 2014 21:54 (eleven years ago)

He did an article in support of her when she did that whole deal about using volunteer musicians. His conclusion: innovative ways to maximise profit are artistically creative and you're all just jealous.

everything, Friday, 31 October 2014 22:09 (eleven years ago)


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