uh i mean archetypal
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:26 (ten years ago) link
man let it never be said that this dude doesn't have a deeeedicated fanbase who will bend over backwards to find bonafides for him
all for the man who wrote schnitzel boogie
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:36 (ten years ago) link
yeah i like much of his music but some of the fawning on here seems over the top
― I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I gave that record a listen and it's as good as most Zappa I've heard, I get the fawning praise. Luckily Zappa's the worst, so
― fgti, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Not down with people saying how great it sounds. The sound quality on this is poor compared with whoever people are comparing it too upthread - Rundgren, Zappa, Tubes, whatever. Listened to it last night really loud on a fantastic system and it sounded like flat, bombastic computer music. He's transitioned from one form of shitty sound quality to a different, more subtle form of shitty sound quality.
― everything, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
bobby conn is cool
― sarahell, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:48 (ten years ago) link
those covers are amazing.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/15/Lover_Boy.jpg
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
yea that chart was dumb as fuck, about as dumb as the term "hypnogogic pop" and other bullshit wire-isms, but yea the covers are pretty amazing
― marcos, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
I guess I can see where people get the Zappa thing from - there are elements that make them sound like certain Zappa songs. Haven't listened enough to really identify too many specific examples but eg. Negativ Ed has the tubular bells, tempo, descending bass riffs and challenging vocals as Teenage Prostitute.
― everything, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:51 (ten years ago) link
yea that chart was dumb as fuck, about as dumb as the term "hypnogogic pop" and other bullshit wire-isms
hahah otm
― sarahell, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Ariel Pink always made me think of Skafish. I love Ariel Pink and the first Skafish record is a masterpiece but Frank Zappa is just vile, I kind of like some of his records though
― soref, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link
Bobby Conn rules and his band is awesome and AP is still a long way from anything as good as "The Golden Age".
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:56 (ten years ago) link
I agree with that. But I also love Zappa.
― everything, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link
people do love this guy, me included. he'll forever be divisive in music circles but i really hadn't heard anything quite like those first albums when they first entered my world.
hipster bullshit, the son of a millionaire gastroenterologist slumming it in outsider clothes, a gadfly seeking attention etc
whatever you think of him he just is
― hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:58 (ten years ago) link
The "Mom and dad are normal" section of Jell-O has a real strong '67-'68 Mothers of Invention vibe.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Big differences is Zappa felt like he really sneered at his targets and held authority in general in contempt. AP doesn't seem that much into anything.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
amoral white sociopaths rarely are
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
He looks pretty into My Little Pony from what I can see.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09 (ten years ago) link
The Zappa comparisons have nothing to do with AP's songwriting, just his style.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
I feel the style thing to a degree but Zappa's vibe is so different, his sort of "I'm smarter than you" sarcasm and mocking thing, plus he was sort of hyper professional as a band leader, very savvy businessman etc, whereas Ariel's whole vibe is more erratic, fragile
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:43 (ten years ago) link
Also tbh a lot of Ariel's supposed "enigmatic" behavior etc sometimes seems a lot like a dude that is on drugs than anything
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:44 (ten years ago) link
there was a written testimony from the Flaming Lips sound man awhile ago warning festival organizers that Ariel and his band were pretty heavy heroin users. i can't seem to find it anymore though
― hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
ariel pink does drugs?
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:48 (ten years ago) link
yes, and his fans love him for it
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
damn... i'll be praying for him
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link
but srsly how many more minutes will we have with ariel? 6? maybe 7? *saliva pools on computer desk*
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
drugs
― mattresslessness, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:57 (ten years ago) link
In September ariel tried reefer 4 the very first timeNow he's doing horse, it's June
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
I found him passed out in an alleyway once and when he groaned at me after I nudged him with my foot I was like "you....have some cool songs" and left
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:01 (ten years ago) link
jesus christ
― hackshaw, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:03 (ten years ago) link
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09
lol
the golden age is fuckin ace. Pitchfork gave it like a 2
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
FRECKLES FRECKLES WHERED U GET THOSE FRECKLE STENCILS DID U PAINT THEM ON? WHITE FRECKLES WHITE FRECKLES
― phil phish (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:34 (ten years ago) link
"drug-sick sadness" -p4k
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:40 (ten years ago) link
i mean the chorus in the first song on pom pom is "all over the world / cocaine man has got a Portabello girl"
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:42 (ten years ago) link
all the early stuff sounds like he was tweaked out on speed
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
Have a good question for Ariel? Post it here. I can't guarantee an answer but he will see it. Serious questions only.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:00 (ten years ago) link
How will your songwriting evolve in the wake of #gamergate?
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 30 October 2014 00:26 (ten years ago) link
Serious question: What is the refrain of "Every Night I Die at Miyagis" ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alD4uGj6rQ
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 01:31 (ten years ago) link
Can't you just google the lyrics?
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:02 (ten years ago) link
Ask him if he has any plans to do a visual album. I loved loved loved those early AP music videos - the ones with the retro VHS look before it got all super popular. It would be cool to have a DVD of AP videos.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:03 (ten years ago) link
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it's all conjecture, house arrest doesn't have a lyric sheet. even the acoustic version from npr, it's impossible to hear what he says after "off in the world" ... "the girl's a jerk" ? "the girls adjourn" ?
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 02:09 (ten years ago) link
I would like to know what Ariel Pink is reading and what he thinks of it.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:34 (ten years ago) link
he's reading twitter
― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 October 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link
Ariel is there a deep meaning behind schnitzel boogie or are you just a dumbass junkie troll riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave of randomly encountered adoration by listeners eager for even more music that sounds warm and psychedelic and lo-fi-ish as if we don't have enough of that bye
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 30 October 2014 12:48 (ten years ago) link
Serious question: when will you appear on Red Eye again?
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 13:05 (ten years ago) link
Also, I'm surprised AP's band are serious heroin users, they seem like the classic hapless backing band that has to put up with an insane and irresponsible bandleader, and all the while remain totally professional and poker-faced.
― ET sippin the wig (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Do you hang out with Kurt Heasley often?
― Evan, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link
no surprise about the heroin and other drug use, i thought this was already well-documented
― marcos, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:42 (ten years ago) link
feel like heard something about giant ziplock bags full of weed or something too, i could be wrong.
― marcos, Thursday, 30 October 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link
tbf though i kind of assume most musicians smoke a lot of weed