Ariel Pink

i guess the connection is that both do "pastiche," and have a number of musical personalities. and that's true, but in very different ways.

can't wait for the Twitter police to get really tiffed over that article.

"wow people like this ariel pink person? why i never!!!!"

ariel has more of a pop heart than zappa. i think a better comparison would be Pollard. class melodicism put together in shambles

Sounds like the Tubes to me. Or Bobby Conn.

yeah i think pollard is a much closer comparison

bobby conn--ouch. i never got that guy's appeal. and he was everywhere in chicago ca. late 1990s.

he seemed like the archetypical hipster musical poseur to me.

uh i mean archetypal

man let it never be said that this dude doesn't have a deeeedicated fanbase who will bend over backwards to find bonafides for him

all for the man who wrote schnitzel boogie

yeah i like much of his music but some of the fawning on here seems over the top

I gave that record a listen and it's as good as most Zappa I've heard, I get the fawning praise. Luckily Zappa's the worst, so

Not down with people saying how great it sounds. The sound quality on this is poor compared with whoever people are comparing it too upthread - Rundgren, Zappa, Tubes, whatever. Listened to it last night really loud on a fantastic system and it sounded like flat, bombastic computer music. He's transitioned from one form of shitty sound quality to a different, more subtle form of shitty sound quality.

bobby conn is cool

those covers are amazing.

― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:13 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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yea that chart was dumb as fuck, about as dumb as the term "hypnogogic pop" and other bullshit wire-isms, but yea the covers are pretty amazing

I guess I can see where people get the Zappa thing from - there are elements that make them sound like certain Zappa songs. Haven't listened enough to really identify too many specific examples but eg. Negativ Ed has the tubular bells, tempo, descending bass riffs and challenging vocals as Teenage Prostitute.

yea that chart was dumb as fuck, about as dumb as the term "hypnogogic pop" and other bullshit wire-isms

hahah otm

Ariel Pink always made me think of Skafish. I love Ariel Pink and the first Skafish record is a masterpiece but Frank Zappa is just vile, I kind of like some of his records though

Bobby Conn rules and his band is awesome and AP is still a long way from anything as good as "The Golden Age".

I agree with that. But I also love Zappa.

people do love this guy, me included. he'll forever be divisive in music circles but i really hadn't heard anything quite like those first albums when they first entered my world.

hipster bullshit, the son of a millionaire gastroenterologist slumming it in outsider clothes, a gadfly seeking attention etc

whatever you think of him he just is

The "Mom and dad are normal" section of Jell-O has a real strong '67-'68 Mothers of Invention vibe.

Big differences is Zappa felt like he really sneered at his targets and held authority in general in contempt. AP doesn't seem that much into anything.

amoral white sociopaths rarely are

He looks pretty into My Little Pony from what I can see.

The Zappa comparisons have nothing to do with AP's songwriting, just his style.

I feel the style thing to a degree but Zappa's vibe is so different, his sort of "I'm smarter than you" sarcasm and mocking thing, plus he was sort of hyper professional as a band leader, very savvy businessman etc, whereas Ariel's whole vibe is more erratic, fragile

Also tbh a lot of Ariel's supposed "enigmatic" behavior etc sometimes seems a lot like a dude that is on drugs than anything

there was a written testimony from the Flaming Lips sound man awhile ago warning festival organizers that Ariel and his band were pretty heavy heroin users. i can't seem to find it anymore though

ariel pink does drugs?

yes, and his fans love him for it

damn... i'll be praying for him

but srsly how many more minutes will we have with ariel? 6? maybe 7? *saliva pools on computer desk*

drugs

In September ariel tried reefer 4 the very first time
Now he's doing horse, it's June

I found him passed out in an alleyway once and when he groaned at me after I nudged him with my foot I was like "you....have some cool songs" and left

jesus christ

He looks pretty into My Little Pony from what I can see.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:09

lol

the golden age is fuckin ace. Pitchfork gave it like a 2

FRECKLES FRECKLES WHERED U GET THOSE FRECKLE STENCILS DID U PAINT THEM ON? WHITE FRECKLES WHITE FRECKLES

"drug-sick sadness" -p4k

i mean the chorus in the first song on pom pom is "all over the world / cocaine man has got a Portabello girl"

all the early stuff sounds like he was tweaked out on speed

Have a good question for Ariel? Post it here. I can't guarantee an answer but he will see it. Serious questions only.

How will your songwriting evolve in the wake of #gamergate?

Serious question: What is the refrain of "Every Night I Die at Miyagis" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8alD4uGj6rQ

Can't you just google the lyrics?

Ask him if he has any plans to do a visual album. I loved loved loved those early AP music videos - the ones with the retro VHS look before it got all super popular. It would be cool to have a DVD of AP videos.

Can't you just google the lyrics?

― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's all conjecture, house arrest doesn't have a lyric sheet. even the acoustic version from npr, it's impossible to hear what he says after "off in the world" ... "the girl's a jerk" ? "the girls adjourn" ?

I would like to know what Ariel Pink is reading and what he thinks of it.

he's reading twitter

Ariel is there a deep meaning behind schnitzel boogie or are you just a dumbass junkie troll riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave of randomly encountered adoration by listeners eager for even more music that sounds warm and psychedelic and lo-fi-ish as if we don't have enough of that bye