black gives way to blue was good, i didn't like the second one much.
that being said i don't really love the whole new singer era. i'm too tied to Layne to really embrace it fully
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 27 October 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-gx957MEO4
Video from 1986, pre-Cantrell (and everyone else except Stayley I think). Very Sunset Strip.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 27 February 2015 15:31 (nine years ago) link
omg @ poodle layne
― brimstead, Friday, 27 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
I know it’s lame to just revive threads to be all “yeah awesome” but goddam I love Alice In Chains.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
i love aic!!!! i listened to dirt for the first time in forever a few weeks ago and wow what a record
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link
great drummer
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
I listen to unplugged and dirt quite often
― a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
I was just jamming "God Am" from the s/t.
one of my earliest favs from my high school years. also feel that Facelift is an underrated cock rock classic, never woulda guessed the albums that woulda come out of them after that.
the shit on the boxed set is great too, as were their soundtrack songs. "What the HEll Have I?" is a fav
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 02:57 (three years ago) link
love them so much!! <3the MoPop founders tribute concert from last month is worth a look, some great covers incl Fishbonehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zTIF6CM1tI
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link
Dirt and Sap/Jar Of Flies are all-time for me.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 09:20 (three years ago) link
Dirt is more or less a perfect album, really the sweet spot between their rocking and moody/introspective sides plus catchy as hell tunes.
― chap, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link
Definitely classic: debut, Dirt and Unplugged. Quite like Tripod but not fussed about much that came after. I saw them on the Dirt tour in (I think) 1993 - monstrous gig.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link
never got to see them, by the time I was into them, Jar of Flies had been out a while, and Layne was in a bad way.
always made me sad, the footage of them opening for Kiss on the s/t (Tripod) tour and Layne having to be in a wheelchair.
Layne always sounded good live based on the recordings, always had a lot of power, and the harmonies with him and Jerry were great live too.
i almost went to see the new incarnation in 2019 (it's taken me time to embrace) but I had a conflict.
"Rain When I Die" is the ultimate AIC anthem IMO
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I don't think I'd go see them. Having said that, seeing anyone right now would rule!
I got one of my kids a Jar of Flies shirt for Christmas and I think I'm going to have to steal it.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link
AiC's Jar of Flies was the first band t-shirt I ever owned. only one my folks would buy for me cos they were so uptight.
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link
Aww. Such a cool shirt.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link
I think the unplugged version of “brother” is the definitive one for me, thanks to the vocal harmonies in the verse
― brimstead, Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:03 (three years ago) link
yeah I liked what they did with it for that special!
i thought i was cool when I learned that guitar solo as a kid util I realized it was like a beginner guitar solo lol
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 03:05 (three years ago) link
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal)
That chorus! And the wah wah riff...
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 11:05 (three years ago) link
fans don't seem to like Unplugged very much, but it was the only AiC I knew for a long time and so the album versions sound a little strange to me. I dug Dirt out the other week and was impressed at how hard it rocked - definitely one of the most "metal" of all the big grunge-era bands
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link
Well there's a reason for that
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link
There are times when I think Jar of Flies may be the best album of the early-to-mid '90s alternaboom.
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:25 (three years ago) link
Dirt is miles better than JoF. I actually prefer Sap to it as well.
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link
fans don't seem to like Unplugged very much
Yeah the studio versions of the songs are all superior imo & afaicr.
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link
There was this creepy kid i went to high school with who would always walk up to me at break and repeat this quote AIC had given to Kerrang!, that they were ***metal** and not ***grunge***, like it was profound somehow. It was true, but I really wanted him to fuck off and never understood why he kept repeating it to me, even though I was dead into grunge.
AIC's harmonies have always sounded otherworldly to me, absolutely unique.
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link
^ otm re their harmonies
I like the variety of JoF but Dirt is stronger song-for-song. Never heard the s/t album, should go listen to that
― Vinnie, Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:57 (three years ago) link
It's mostly boring.
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link
― Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:57 AM bookmarkflaglink
"Rotten Apple" especially, or "I Stay Away"
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link
that they were ***metal** and not ***grunge***, like it was profound somehow.
Grunge was never a real genre, discuss.
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:03 (three years ago) link
s/t album has a LOT of Jerry singing lead, often for entire songs, which I'm not really about. he has a decent voice but it's rather vanilla so I usually preferred it when they used him more sparingly, i.e. like on the intro verse to "Would?"
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:03 (three years ago) link
Yeah I haven't heard a lot of praise for the s/t but it's the least thing in the Layne era I haven't heard and I love "Heaven Beside You" (on the subject of great harmonies)
― Vinnie, Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link
s/t's highlights were "Brush Away", "Sludge Factory", "Frogs" (possibly the weirdest song they ever recorded not counting the bonus track on Sap), "God Am", "Head Creeps", "Grind"
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link
Mostly unmemorable songs on the s/t. Granted I didn't listen to it as much as Dirt, but today I wouldn't have the first clue what Shame in You or Nothin Song sound like.
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
that nothin song sticks to your mouth like peanut butter on the brain...odelay-eeeeeee
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link
I like "Shame in You", decent Layne harmonies.
― chap, Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:03 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Next thing I know you're gonna say electronica wasn't legit.
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link
You know what doesn't get enough love? The Mad Season album. It's pretty great imo.
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link
Speaking of Mad Season, one of my favourite bits of Layne singing is his verse on this, at around 1.50. Chills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJKvE3tMIPs
― chap, Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
yeah i love "Shame In You". One of the great grunge ballads. Reminds me of... shit what were they called? Brent or Brad or something? Mixed grunge and soul together, think it was a collab between one of Pearl Jam and antoher dude...
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link
Whoa! Brad! I haven't thought of that in nearly thirty years!
― Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
Brad are great - most things Shawn Smith was involved in a great (Pigeonhed, Satchel, Twilight Singers) his solo stuff.
I like the AiC Unplugged album. It's way too long but the highlights are, uh, high.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 14 January 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link
― chap, Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:39 AM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i do not agree
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link
My last post (typed in a break from online teaching) is utter garbage! Basically, Shawn Smith is the king. That is all.
And aye, Unplugged is great. I love the version of Frog.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:09 (three years ago) link
the opening “AH!” on them bones is the best and scariest start to an album ever
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link
Tangent, but I swear Bandcamp had a metric ton of Shawn Smith content - demos, albums, live stuff, etc. - and it's not up now. So much content, I didn't know where to start, and thought I'd check it before asking for suggestions here.
Shawn's a favorite of mine, too. Wish I'd seen a lot more shows of his. The one at Seattle's Showbox lounge I caught was wonderful and intimate.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link
I liked the song Battleflag by Pigeonhed
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link
There's a Lo-Fidelty Allstars version of that, which is great.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link
I like that version too
― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
the Pigeonhed version is in a first ep season of the Sopranos. makes it a time capsule episode really
I saw Shawn Smith in a little pub near here, about six months before he died. I got a bear hug off him at the end. Amazing gig.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link