Indie Guilt: C/D

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500 odd posts
how come you know they were odd then?

Making stupid jokes, so you don't have to!

Should I go see the Promise Ring tonight or stay at home and drink rum?

cuba libre (nathalie), Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I printed this to read in the bath, the water got cold and I had 20 pages to go so I said fuck it, did i miss anything in the last pages ?

The bit behind your ears?

N., Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like the idea of an "internet rumor" that someone is black. Like "Psst, you know what I heard was that Gygax is black!"
"Psst...did you know that Lord Custos is actually a Nigerian 419 Scammer who is offering $28 million for the Secret Neiman Marcus Cookie Recipe?"
You think thats fucked up...theres a guy out there who seriously believes that John Lennon was assassinated by Stephen King.

Lord Custos X, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I try to load this page, it keeps getting stuck at the picture of Ned as Eminem. (Is that spelled wrong?)

DeRayMI, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have the power, I do.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

YOU, YES, YOU TOO CAN BE YOUR OWN VERSION OF THE DANDY WARHOLS! BE HIPPER THAN THOU AND FEEL NO GUILT. WALLOW IN YOUR INDIE-NESS! DON'T JUST EAT YOUR CAKE, EAT THE HELL OUT OF IT.
PERPETRATE INDIE-SENT EXPOSURE!

Lord Custos X, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the dandy warhols are indie?

geeta, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm listening to indie on a college radio station. This song sounds familiar.

DeRayMi, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was cooking and my hands were too dirty to go through CDs, so I switched on the radio.

DeRayMi, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm switching from station to station and the best thing I've heard so far is "Get Ur Freak On." A lot of this stuff is just so blah. This Trans Am, whoever they are, sounds like very mediocre post-punk re-tread.

DeRayMi, Monday, 3 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

shitmomma I love them Dandy Warhols, comon, they got a keyboardist who takes off her shirt AND wears flowers in her toes! How indie is that?!?

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not very indie at all it would seem. I haven't been to a single indie gig where someone has taken their top off. I must be going to the wrong gigs

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I take my shirt off all the time at indie gigs, and wave it over my head in a manner similar to a helicopter. But only when in North Carolina

Mr Noodles, Tuesday, 4 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Just curious, CubaLibre, did you go to see the Promise Ring or stay home? If you went, how were they?

mort A, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i wish i could be just like ani d. she's my hero.......... i'm making a mixtape for kathleen featuring mogwai, stereolab, the coolies, the smiths, le tigre and team dresch!!! Angeline made me a mixtape with the 3Ds and belle and sebastian on it. she RoX0r.

i miss you di, although we never talked.... yesterday i scoured the sale bins at galaxy and picked up some elpees by death cab for cutie, beta-band, yo la tengo, fake purr and joy division for only ten bucks! while i'm complaining, i really fucken hate pretentious-ass diaries. and there's so many of them. and they're all so, so bad. everyone should just write about the class struggle and masturbation. then i'd be happy.

i need coffee.

do not act f-ing out on soap opera urges... we're cosmically spiritually intertwined, duuuude!!!!!! there is a world out there. i'm taking it on faith!!! indie rock is like high school all over again, except the football team is the guys from basement jaxx showing off how cool they are!!!!!!

i love my stripey friend rockgrrl.

indykid, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*cough*!!!!!! I AM NOT AN INDIE KID. screaming on the inside, when it's silent on the outside. EEK. now i am going to take my pavement magazines to the recycling bin and check the mail. godspeed you black emperor is supposed to start touring in july! who's going to go with me? when i heard about it i peed just a little bit, it was so good!

yay. i've got a big crush on a rocking boi called dwayne. he's cute - everytime we meet my insides turn into quivery jelly & i become a stammering dork. today, while awake, i imagined myself given the respiratory system requiring orange paint as i was simultaneously being drowned in it!

because i am strange and just have a constant urge to spend money, i am now very poor. i miss my chuck... roxor.

indykid, Wednesday, 5 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re promise ring. i stayed home and packed me bags.

cuba libre that not so sublime-mall fucked up chick (nathalie), Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey just thought i'd let you know, If, like me, you're among the thinking few, you're pretty disgusted with what passes for radio these days. Turn anywhere on your FM dial, and you're likely to hear the sound of some enormous multinational media conglomerate anesthetizing the masses with its spoon-fed pablum. From Hot 96 to Z-104, these stations are all the same: pre- packaged, focus-grouped DJs selling a bill of false goods to lobotomized teens who don't know the difference between revolution and repetition. Even non-commercial, so-called "public" radio is just a cog in the Great American Money Machine.

Well, I, for one, have had enough. It's time to shake up the status quo and put a little fear in the heart of the Establishment. Yes, consider this an official declaration of war: Look out, Corporate America, here comes my pirate radio station!

Last Friday, Radio Free Tate, the city's first and only broadcast forum for the disenfranchised voices of the country, went on the air. Located somewhere between 89.5 and 91.3 FM, Radio Free Tate is going to let corporate America have it with both barrels: the truths they're afraid to say and the songs they're afraid to play.

I may not have the broadcast range of a big station, but I compress a whole lot of rebellion into a six-block radius. You'd better believe this mouse is going to roar.

And, unlike the rest of the world, I'm not interested in feeding my audience a steady diet of nothing. While most radio listeners are complacently soaking in the latest teeny-pop brain sedative or the semi-digested pap of the Tweedledee & Tweedledum Morning Zoo show, I'm out there telling it like it is. I'm not afraid to talk about the class war against the poor, the deplorable state of popular music, or the sham election that put Dubya into the Whitewash House. Corporate America, you'd better watch your backside, because there's a new sheriff on your radio dial!

I had no idea starting a pirate radio station would be so easy. All I needed was a microphone, a PLL transmitter, a Comet antenna, a 20-watt dummy load kit, a 6-watt amplifier, some old Minor Threat and Bad Brains records, and a self-constructed broadcast booth in my basement. It's so simple, I'm surprised more people don't do it. Then again, how many people have the guts? After all, I'm living outside the law. I know for a fact that the government and the corporate fatcats would love to shut me down. They don't want people to hear what I'm dishing out. Well, tough! I'm going to bring The Man to his knees, one song at a time.

A bunch of my friends have already said that when they're in my neighborhood, they keep their radios tuned to Radio Free Tate. You're probably thinking they're just saying that because they're my friends, but they're not. Where else are they going to hear Black Flag's "TV Party" followed by a scathing anti-PepsiCo editorial followed by Gang Of Four's "Guns Before Butter"? On K-Rock? I think not.

A desperately needed home for alternative ideas, Radio Free Tate will provide a forum for the forumless, a voice for the voiceless. I tried doing a call-in segment last Saturday, but the masses weren't quite ready for it after spending so many years imprisoned in corporate radio's shackles. (A case of Stockholm Syndrome if there ever was one.) All I got were two 12-year olds making fart noises with their hands and requests for (ugh) Ja Rule and (double ugh) Nickelback. Clearly, these people are so hooked on the Pop Narcotic, they lack the faculties to appreciate my blend of hardcore punk with take-no-prisoners commentary on Generalissimo Bush's real motivations for the so-called war on terror.

When I'm not shooting truth straight from the hip, I'm getting down. While much of the playlist is drawn from classic SoCal and D.C. punk, you'll hear everything from Roky Erickson to Neu! to Burning Spear. I throw in some old-school hip-hop, some No Wave, a little spoken word, and some free jazz. Once, I played the entire Tony Conrad box set as a big "fuck you" to all the mainstream DJs who are too chickenshit to play experimental composers. And, once in a while, I take a cue from rap pioneer DJ Cool Herc and mix it up by "scratching" my records. Try finding that on your average station!

I'd encourage all of you to tune in to Radio Free Tate. Like I said, it's somewhere between 89.5 and 91.3 on your radio dial— depending on which side of Maplewood Street you're on. Before long, you'll be able to find our listening area simply by paying attention to who suddenly goes through a political revival. They'll start using less, caring more, and voting with their hearts and minds rather than their wallets. And they'll be listening to the best mix of music you won't hear anywhere else. Find that neighborhood, and you've found Radio Free Tate.

Oh, and one more thing: Corporate America can suck it.

tate "radio free" ainsworth, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Onion > The Bible

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

© The Onion

Attrib Gendarmes, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just had my first ever response to my profile on makeoutclub. It said "Hi, you probably don't want to speak to me because i'm ugly and 14. Mail me back".

Brilliant.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re radio free Busted! i thought i could fool ya for at least a minute with that one. anyway, its a great read - hope those that hadnt already seen it enjoyed it. theres a little tate ainsworth in all of us true indies ... what?

jeremya, Thursday, 6 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

eight months pass...
haha revive for old times' sake

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 21 February 2003 07:14 (twenty-three years ago)

..and that would be around the time of the last Southsidecallbox.com update.

V

Venus Glow (1411), Friday, 21 February 2003 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's harder to dislike indie because if you say indie sucks, your saying art sucks. If there is an entire genre of music where the musicians are allowed to be as creative as they please with nobody telling them what to do or not do, and it sucks, then creativity is dead. That, and I really don't know if indie is a real genre, as unlike things like pop-punk, or ska, they don't really have one thing to fit into.

As for myself, I can't, try as I may, buy into most mainsteam pop, because I know the money will just feed the perpetual shit machine, and no good music will be made.

One more thing, does indie relate to underground rap as well?

David Allen, Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Can I do the obligatory "hahahahahahahaha"

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:25 (twenty-three years ago)

One more thing, does indie relate to underground rap as well?

No no no no please not this can of worms

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

you mean UNDERGROUND HIP-HOP???

Racist!

Millar (Millar), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:44 (twenty-three years ago)

if you say indie sucks, your saying art sucks.

This hurts my head.

bnw (bnw), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-three years ago)

this thread is a gift that keeps on giving

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 22 February 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

I just read it all for the first time. How entertaining.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:07 (twenty-three years ago)

A glass every night makes your heart stronger. Goes well with crackers.

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:32 (twenty-three years ago)

guilt rox u r all crackers

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 22 February 2003 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

..and that would be around the time of the last Southsidecallbox.com update.

Huh? I'm updating this weekend.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:14 (twenty-three years ago)

derevive!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 22 February 2003 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

I scrolled through this revived thread at such speed that none of the arguments matter to me. But I am turned on beyond belief by the suggestion made and subliminally absorbed by myself, somewhere in the swamp above, that people should only listen to stuff that has unequal tracks each side. I am turned on by the idea of sides, and turned on by the idea that the number of songs contained by each side matters. Personally, I disagree with the proponent of the theory. I disagree exactly. I am for the even, not the odd. I want balance. I am prejudiced against eleven tracks in total, or thirteen. Some have fifteen! I like ten (five each side). Twelve is pushing it, but evenly. 'Station to Station' feels like contraband with its glorious six. But the people I like best are those I disagree with exactly, without whom I would have nothing to say.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:08 (twenty-three years ago)

David: thanks, you've made this very old man smile.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

(the 'Indie Guilt C/D' done gone platinum. and so long 'go, i see. woah. then again, seeing that the recent Xgau record is threatening to strike double platinum... does this make Xgau more pop than indie, or wot?)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 22 February 2003 23:52 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...
I...see

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Sorry guys, i had to see what gygax! was talking about. Forgive me.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Just like freakin' Pandora . . .

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 24 March 2003 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Still, he has a point...

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

(desperately tries to stuff it back in)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:09 (twenty-three years ago)

well, yeah, gygax! is right -- some people on ILM are like reformed smokers, the bright light of zealotry shining in their feral eyes as the denounce cigarettes while secretly yearning to light up.

"I really do want to like what everyone else likes! I want to be Everyman!"

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

someone on this board has a matador sticker on their fridge which they have tried to peel off! they shall remain nameless...

FOR NOW!

gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:50 (twenty-three years ago)

but i cannot be guaranteed to keep my silence

FOREVER

gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:51 (twenty-three years ago)

yes we're all like reformed smokers to your bowl of stinky disgusting ash jack

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

i wonder who it could be?!

Mary (Mary), Monday, 24 March 2003 22:55 (twenty-three years ago)

someone who will remain nameless is trying to quit smoking...

:-D

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

'studies show that thanks to stringent anti-smoking legislation across the US, indie is now the leading cause of cancer'

Dave M. (rotten03), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 00:34 (twenty-three years ago)


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