Yeah I have been in a few of those thousand comment facebook threads about that record. Kind of shocked at how much press/discussion it's generating actually. It's even sort of encouraging in a way.
Also it gave me a little pause to suddenly realize that there's only one living member of the original KOB sextet.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link
You didn't know that?
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
Also, Ted Dunbar did not play on Kind of Blue.
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
sorry
Texas Ted did however instruct the guitar play in Phish at one point, apparently.
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/bk-music-pr/all-blues-mostly-other-people-do-the-killing
It actually fools me at certain moments, less so at others. There's something too halting/not loose enough about the drumming, and it's pretty impossible to capture miles' sound, or cannonball's sound (though this one is probably the closest), or coltrane's sound, and there are moments that are exciting on the original that just aren't somehow here. Interesting exercise, and they apparently spent several years working up to it.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:02 (nine years ago) link
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, October 19, 2014 10:58 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I knew all those guys were dead, individually, I had just never put it all together
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:03 (nine years ago) link
I find all the people rushing to take this down a little tiresome -- maybe they should rush to take down the thousands of boring, retread, idea-less jazz albums that come out every year!
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
OK, listening to that soundcloud "All Blues" right now and it sounds pretty darn close so far. Guess it is kind of an interesting idea. What inspired it? Borges? Oldies rerecords on Spotify? Not exactly shocked or stunned that jazz guys don't like it as it goes against the grain of the basic jazz aesthetic.
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link
Here is interview where Phish guy mentions Ted D: http://www.believermag.com/issues/201107/?read=interview_anastasio
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
Okay, I've traced the Borges and... it's coming from the liner notes!
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:19 (nine years ago) link
As Richard Brody says, "I'd like to hear this set for what it is and what it purports to be"---amazing collection, amazing price, heralded by classic typo:http://www.amazon.com/Twelve-Classical-Bums-Eric-Dolphy/dp/B00NW6KONW/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1413776290&sr=1-1&keywords=eric+dolphy
― dow, Monday, 20 October 2014 04:27 (nine years ago) link
lol
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:34 (nine years ago) link
There's something too halting/not loose enough about the drumming
Apart from the general concept, the biggest criticism of the fb pals criticizing it was Kevin Shea's drumming
― sarahell, Monday, 20 October 2014 06:19 (nine years ago) link
The rhythm section in general... during the solos the piano/drums/bass sound like they're reading off charts rather than the original where Evans especially is reacting to and carrying out a dialogue with the soloists. Maybe that's part of the point - by trying to do note for note they end up highlighting the hard stuff.
― B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Monday, 20 October 2014 07:44 (nine years ago) link
(Xpost) thought that was a Yoko Ono movie.
― Thus We Frustrate Kid Charlemagne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 October 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link
xp I have a feeling we were on the same facebook thread
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 20 October 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link
Prepon@prepxn“@Carrie_Rachel:woke up 2 news my band #sleaterkinney back together and that we have a new record coming out in 2015.” No,sorry
― dow, Monday, 20 October 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
oops wrong thread!
― dow, Monday, 20 October 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
duh
huh the Kind of Blue reconstruction is pretty interesting, although i can't see listening to it more than once. this is a good interview about it: http://www.popmatters.com/feature/185662-kind-of-kind-of-blue-a-conversation-with-mostly-other-people-do-the-/
― festival culture (Jordan), Monday, 20 October 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link
atlantic piece isn't bad eitherhttp://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/10/when-is-a-miles-davis-record-not-jazz/381983/2
― Steve 'n' Seagulls and Flock of Van Dammes (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
this "spirit of malombo" compilation of south african jazz by the julian bahula / philip tabane brain trust is really killer
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id908767773
― the late great, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 07:04 (nine years ago) link
really love the stripped-down sounds of the first disc
― the late great, Wednesday, 5 November 2014 07:05 (nine years ago) link
Miles Davis Albums From Worst To Best. I wrote this for Stereogum. Studio albums only. Skip to the end if you want to get really mad really fast.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:21 (nine years ago) link
I randomly wound up on the facebook thread started by Russell Malone about "favorite jazz drumming moments" and contributors wound up including Jason Moran, Jason Marsalis, Ralph Peterson, George Coleman. Started putting together a Spotify playlist of all the selections I could find -- it's a little unwieldy and I may cull it a little but I'll post it when ready.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:50 (nine years ago) link
George Coleman Père ou Fils?
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link
Hmm, I have to go back and look at the profile pic, didn't occur to me
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:23 (nine years ago) link
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, November 6, 2014 12:21 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
#1 most baffling thing to me about your list is Get Up With It at #7. Neat record but so not a top 10 imo.
#2 is On The Corner at #1.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:28 (nine years ago) link
(xp)Sure it is must be GCJr, whom you and your wife met once, if you recall. Seemed to recall she dropped her phone in some water on that occasion, iirc. In any case, he is usually my entree to such FB threads.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link
Skip to the end if you want to get really mad really fast
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 November 2014 18:33 (nine years ago) link
Looking for records that featured the unsung drummer Arthur Edgehill has been reminding me how much I love those old organ group records where they would use an organ AND a bass -- I feel like that kind of died out some time in the 60s, probably partly for financial reasons and partly because of the technical prowess of guys like Jimmy Smith, but I love the sound of an old churchy jazz organ over a bouncy upright bass line -- Shirley Scott, Wild Bill Davis, etc. Feel like it's sort of a forgotten corner of jazz.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McXLl0mtTaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7pLfOHzLM8
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
Spoke too soon. Can't find that drumming thread.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
u mean this oneDrum geek sick chops youtube thread
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
No silly, on FB.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
ohhhh, was confused, anyway it's on Russell Malone's page. He's a jazz guitarist I like btw, I was pretty into him in high school/college.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:00 (nine years ago) link
Are you an FB fan, friend or follower.?
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:01 (nine years ago) link
I think he's just friends with a couple musicians I am friends with so he came up in my feed when they commented on it.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:03 (nine years ago) link
The bassist I played with in high school tours the world with Roy Hargrove now and is becoming a bit of a heavy, so he's my fb connection to lots of big name dudes.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link
Okay, I found it. I see some familiar names,including Willard Dyson, who I just recently discovered. If I counted right,think the most posting on the thread is from you.
Have you ever met Russell IRL? He is really nice.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:15 (nine years ago) link
I haven't. Sometimes I think if I ever take lessons again (and am willing to drop $$$ on it) he's a guy I might holler at
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:17 (nine years ago) link
Do you still have an electric guitar? Also I saw at least one other guitar player on that particular thread, Dan Adler. I believe he has a day job designing computer chips and/or algorithms. Israeli too, as far as I know. Maybe he will give you special rate.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
I have a cheap electric guitar that I happen to like a lot (a Johnson). I don't have a hollow-body anymore.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:25 (nine years ago) link
I never liked my 90s Epiphone full-hollow anyway so I sold it a while back, figuring if I ever got back into jazz I'd just buy something nicer.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
Does he even give lessons? I guess you could FB message him and find out. My understanding of the pricing is that generally guys who play lots of gigs usually charge $100 for an hour or so lesson- this is for any instrument- and they will schedule a lesson if and when they have time.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Of course at his level of fame,he may charge more, but maybe not
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link
Yeah that's about the price I expected. Not in the market to spend that much right now, but maybe eventually.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:50 (nine years ago) link
You should try to go at least once when you are able.
Btw, I saw one of your old guitar teachers a few weeks ago at The Bar Next Door. He had a really good trio.
― Thackeray Zax (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:55 (nine years ago) link
TD?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Friday, 7 November 2014 02:58 (nine years ago) link
or VJ?