Revolt of the ILX Brigade: New Post-Fahey Folk For PPL that post in the Takoma & Tompkin's Square Threads

as well as hours worth of film shot by Gene of Fahey and several other collectors canvassing for 78 RPM records in the south in the '60s.

^^ wow would love to see this

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FaheyGuitarPlayers/info
The group has been brought up here before as difficult to follow. But once you forward your Yahoo inbox to your real address, checking out new posts is as easy as going through your inbox.

But really though, that material Glenn is talking sounds perfect, especially if it was recorded around the time of Vol. 2 Dance of Death. That guy Gene used to be very active at the Yahoo group and everything Glenn suggests seems to be true regarding Rosenthal's personality, such a bummer when stuff gets locked up and kept under wraps.

Yeah for sure. Moving pictures of a young Fahey. Something never seen other than that one tiny tiny clip in either Desparate Man Blues or that new doc. I can't remember but it's Fahey holding a Patton (maybe wrong?) record up to the camera.

Yeah, would be very cool to see, and lowsy that it isn't likely to be any time soon. Hope it sees the light of day at some point. Maybe Glenn can sweet talk him somehow.

And, speaking of Glenn, Steve Lowenthal just posted that the next two VDSQ records will be Glenn Jones and Matthew Mullane. New Glenn tune here:

https://soundcloud.com/vdsq-1/glenn-jones-changing-ships-on-a-falling-tide

lol any relation?

In re the Mullane record via Steve: "This Mullane LP ... people aren't ready. Total next level. The bar has been raised."

oops never mind, got the names wrong

Hah yeah Sleeve, different folks. Had never heard of Gene Rosenthal other than what was posted here.

man, wonder what rosenthal's problem is! weird dudes abound when it comes to fahey i guess. guess it's another one for 78 Collectors: Why are they so weird?

on my phone so can't track it down but there are bunch of posts by him on a folk msgboard thread about the fahey doc which iirc he felt somewhat aggrieved by & he shares some p interesting details abt fahey

he made it clear that he had a lot of material & expertise. tbh anything which increases the chance of a further fahey film is good news in my book

Posted yesterday over at Decoder. Haven't listened to it all the way through yet, sounds great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Az0QGQsrU#t=181

Yeah Neal, that is a good video, though I didn't make it through the whole thing yet. Gotta look into Norberto some more though, he touched on a lot of cool stuff.

Another good one is this video of the Gunn Band in Philly. Good video and pretty good audio as well, very clear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RZ5zezqVA0&feature=youtu.be

Really hope the four piece from this tour makes more records/tours again. They had great chemistry, would be too bad if it was a one-off.

Oh man, some really choice Gunn/Elkington interplay on the last track of that video.

I was definitely impressed with their interplay and Elkington in general since I'd never heard of him. BTW the dude looks like Harrison Ford does't he?

Man, I really hope I can get to that level of playing in that video (them in general).

I get a headache trying to figure out how Steve manages to play some of those parts and sing at the same time.

Haha for sure! "Wildwood" came to mind.

I feel the same way about the Clientele. Those guitar parts are super knotty underneath a lot of singing.

Hell, Polvo too!

Hah at one point in my life I did not know that Polvo played in alternate tunings. I would try to sound like them and be like "what the hell man, why does my guitar sound so lame". This despite the fact that I knew Sonic Youth tuned differently, I just couldn't figure it out.

Haha yeah I can relate to that for sure.

Oops didn't mean to say "Haha for sure" practically twice in a row.

As if these folks weren't already coming dangerously close to having a monopoly on my new records budget, it has been confirmed that there will be a collab Steve Gunn & Black Twig Pickers album out on Thrill Jockey in 2015. Hard to imagine it will be anything other than very good to great.

Very cool!

this guy chooses really interesting material to cover -- here he is interpreting the chantilly codex. he also played a bunch of gesualdo pieces a few years ago i think. http://noelakchote.bandcamp.com/album/baude-cordier-complete-works-chansons-for-three-and-four-voices-codex-de-chantilly-arranged-for-guitar

maybe you already talked about him
i'm behind!

he is insanely prolific but I'm a little tired of his sound

yeah i just get overly excited when i see "chantilly codex" because it sounds so cool and also i like medieval music a lot

digging this

but i kinda like a lot of the dorky john renbourne albums like lady & the unicorn and that prissy UK early 70s early music throwback stuff, early strawbs etc

i love it!
not dorky
not prissy

I think it's cool that he's doing this stuff tho. I've been listening to a bunch of C17th Spanish stuff lately, some really lovely pieces

I was surfing around listening to some of Susan Alcorn's recordings and came across a compilation that she is a part of. Mike Cooper put together back in 2011 with all of it's proceeds going towards Jack Rose's family. Glanced across the track list, noticed a piece by Jack called "Warming Up The Crowd" and thought that it must be some great crowd banter. Hit play and immediately thought, 'wait, no.. what the fuck is this?'.

Sent the song to Dan Bachman asking if he knew what this was. Had no clue so he turned to FB and posted it on his wall. Hopefully someone will know something, Brendan of Paradise of Bachelors said he would ask Mike Cooper about it. I'm mainly curious about what year he played this and where the venue was. Probably the most 'free' and avant recording we can hear of solo Jack.

https://mikecooper.bandcamp.com/track/jack-rose-warming-up-the-crowd

Mystery solved:

http://www.discogs.com/Jack-Rose-Untitled-Parts-I-II/release/1040575

It seems that Rose has a bunch of appearances on random compilations featuring tracks not released elsewhere. There is this 10" 78rpm also in his discography that has an edition of 6: "Alap/Flirting With The Undertaker". If you obsess over discography's and have done so with Rose, I'm sure you've come across this release. The description on discogs says this:

"10" 78 rpm by Jack Rose in ed. of 6, sides on the label are untitled. Lathe cut from an early 30's/40's "make your own record" lacquer. The sound is what you would expect, scratchy and noisy. But that is the charm of the record and the setting in which Jack Rose prefers to be heard. Sleeve is signed and iscribed by the artist."

Now, there is an appearance of his on a comp called "Less Self Is More Self (A Benefit Compilation For Tarantula Hill)", the song included on this is called "Amp" and when you listen to it, it sounds exactly like what you'd expect "Alap" to sound like on that 78rpm referenced above. Kinda makes me think it's the same track and whoever put together "Less Self Is More Self" misspelled the song title.

You can listen to "Amp" on Spotify, along with a cover of "Hard Luck Child" by Skip James - that is a great one for sure.

Amp
http://open.spotify.com/track/1zdvAR7Ff8lu9Q4mwCKuOy

Hard Luck Child
http://open.spotify.com/track/3ftdDpgfgUZ6E39jUUacCk

One more - I'd love to hear the track called "Variations On Fleur De Lis/Be The Name Of The Lord" (10:39) from a CD included with Dream Magazine #5. MP3 is nowhere online. Discogs has one copy up for sale, someone should grab it and upload Rose's track :)

I need to go to bed.

Man just listened to that Jack "Warming Up The Crowd" track. Definitely my kind of thing. Makes me want to detune an acoustic and let the amp rest for a while. Of course, I would not be able to play like THAT, but it is such a cool sound.

Thanks Neal!

played a show with global & another guy named cyrus pireh, really great solo electric, bought his album, will try to upload a video of both, fun show

neal - it's funny to see jack rose on the same comp as burning star core

decided to start demoing stuff again, couple new-ish ones, both in DADGAD, kinda dark bluesier dronier stuff

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/the-seventh-letter

http://soundcloud.com/matthew-lee-helgeson/camden

man, i'm having a mild midlife crisis and I just wanna quit my job and start a band and make music like global's "Cassini"

Hah yeah "Cassini" is great. Maybe my favorite from the album is "Banjo Burner", though it is solid all the way through. Glad to see the record growing some legs too, some good folks have picked up on it.

Global, you should get a band together locally to do an "expanded version" of the album tracks.

Also, nice work UMS. I liked both tracks, but in particular dug "Camden". Some really cool changes in it and a nice progression. Your playing generally is really clear and well-articulated too, sound is definitely good for a demo, or at least sounds good on my crappy headphones through a computer.

Hammering the thread as usual here, but wanted to throw out the radio show The Avant Ghetto on WFMU, which is great and plays lots of stuff relevant to this thread. The DJ pretty much ALWAYS plays something that I have never heard before and love. I have discovered several great great records from this dude, plus he played Global's record last show. He isn't full time WFMU yet, just subbing for various folks, but yeah one of the best shows out there right now in my opinion. Jeff was at East Village Radio before it folded under the same name too for reference, but all his archives/shows are worth trolling through for sure:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/57870

that show sounds awesome

yeah, the couple avant ghetto shows i've heard have been great, totally heady stuff. sometimes i feel like i could only listen to wfmu and be fairly happy.
going to check out UMS' new stuff! you planning on releasing any of this?

That show really is great, Jeff digs DEEP into the stuff he plays, whilst also playing plenty of well-known heavy hitters. Gets pretty far out there, but there is always a lot of good playing (and guitars) to be had as well as more abstract stuff.

and hey, that new forsyth/solar motel band record is out today -- another great one.

tyler - i kinda of want to go to my friend's studio and do some stuff if i can get the $$ together! but i might end up just doing home stuff, or doing home stuff and mixing there....

ooooh shit the solar motel is out! damn so excited for that!!!!!!