The Smiths are reuniting

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Clubs with strings on, like the Boulder Brothers?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

"Without M. Joyce obv, not that it matters."

I'm sure that would be a lot of people's opinion - but I'm not at all sure I agree.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

OTM

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

Joyce totally matters, that rhythm section was half of what made the band great!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I agree, it would matter to me (the sans-Mike Joyce), but then again, i really don't even want a morrissey/marr reunion. i think it would just SUCK, im happy with the records i have.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i mean, don't visions of a grizzled page and plant come to mind? who in gods name wants to see an old fart version of "this charming man"?

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

[Post photo of Stewart here]

― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

IIRC there were all sorts of rumours flying about that Johnny was supposedly going to join Morrissey on stage at some festival in South California a few years back (Morrissey was performing, Johnny was apparently recording in some nearby studio) but nothing came of that.

I still tend to think that Johnny joining Morrissey on stage for a couple of numbers is far more likely to happen than any sort of actual reunion.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

"i mean, don't visions of a grizzled page and plant come to mind? who in gods name wants to see an old fart version of "this charming man"?"

-- JD from CDepot (kicksjoydarknes...), November 15th, 2005 7:47 PM. (later)

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"[Post photo of Stewart here]"

-- k/l (lauter...), November 15th, 2005 8:00 PM. (later)

I'm not too sure to be honest. I'm certainly not amongst those who are against all reunions on some sort of principle (in my experience for every Page and Plant there's a Damned or a Bauhaus or a Buzzcocks or a Buzzkunst or a Penetration or a Pixies....); however there was something so essentially.... adolescent.... about so much of The Smiths material, that it's hard to imagine how a bunch of 40-somethings would be able to either recapture that or compensate for its absence.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

IIRC there were all sorts of rumours flying about that Johnny was supposedly going to join Morrissey on stage at some festival in South California a few years back

That was the first Coachella festival. No reunion happened, obv.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

They should call themselves "Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance" and only play clubs

most otm post ever

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

"however there was something so essentially.... adolescent.... about so much of The Smiths material, that it's hard to imagine how a bunch of 40-somethings would be able to either recapture that or compensate for its absence."

OTM. I mean, id go see morrissey anytime, but i find it hard to believe that the essence of the smiths would be anything but betrayed by a reunion.

― JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I happen to think that the Page/Plant version of "Gallows Pole" is far superior to the original. Much of Unledded is a little underrated, IMO.

― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Thomas Inskeep OTM...Unledded was really cool, I thought.

A few of the reunions I've seen recent years, Mission of Burma, Pixies, Bauhaus, Gang of Four, Buzzcocks, were all pretty great, actually.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...

Marr and Rourke together at least, with quite a line-up backing them up.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001659262

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

There's a website about the gig/charity here...

http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Tickets - £40 - on sale on Saturday.

http://www.manchestervcancer.co.uk/tickets.asp

― Ned T.Rifle (nedtrifle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

Morrissey & Marr: The Softcock Alliance

― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

i thought this was a joke thread. that must be why there is so little response to the lates news.

― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 17 December 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

do they have reissues with bonus tracks that i'll play once and never listen to again ?

― retrokid, Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

Fuck! Marr & Rourke! Well that's as good as a full reunion, innit?

― The Wanderers' Wandering Daughter (noodle vague), Sunday, 18 December 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Damnit why don't I live in England again?

― Halloween Spooky Party Hints! (Bimble...), Sunday, 18 December 2005 04:33 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...

Today is the day the Smiths reunite threads reunite.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 11:46 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Marr. Rourke. 'There Is A Light' and 'How Soon Is Now' - it wasn't much, but it was enough to make me blub like a fule.

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 30 January 2006 11:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm still wanting to shout Marr's praises from the feckin' rooftops. I hope this feeling never fades.

I would pimp my full review on my blog, but then people would want to poke me in the eye. And they would also mock me for my inaccuracies. No. I will go to bed and cocoon myself in memory.

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 30 January 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

WONH WUH

― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:51 (thirteen years ago)

I was wondering why this wasn't the Smiths thread that got revived yesterday.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 06:58 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/22/the-smiths-partially-reunite-for-classical-concerts

― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:17 (eight years ago)

lol everyone except the two that made the smiths the smiths

saved you a click

― infinity (∞), Monday, 22 January 2018 17:28 (eight years ago)

thx infinity

― flappy bird, Monday, 22 January 2018 18:15 (eight years ago)

― infinity (∞), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:39 (eight years ago)

finally, the chance to see the legendary craig gannon in action

― grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:50 (eight years ago)

I am sure those shows will be sold-out soon. But this has nothing to do with a reunion. That is more like a string orchestra covering rock songs.

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:54 (eight years ago)

Keep hoping the Panozzo brothers will come to town to perform the songs of Styx with a string quartet

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 January 2018 18:57 (eight years ago)

...then again

https://pitchfork.com/news/andy-rourke-denies-involvement-in-classically-smiths-concerts/

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:24 (eight years ago)

This is insane:

Bad Production Ltd.’s press release also included a quote attributed to Andy Rourke (“To have been there the first time round and seen it first hand, and to still be such a big fan of The Smiths today, I am both thrilled and excited to be involved in Classically Smiths. I’m really proud of the band’s work, and being able to present those songs again in this particular production format promises to be a real gift for audiences everywhere.”). Rourke’s rep tells Pitchfork: “Any quotes by Andy Rourke regarding this project are 100% fabricated and without approval.”

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:26 (eight years ago)

i hear Morrissey's doing some Wagner

― the girl with the rub-on tattoo (Noodle Vague), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:27 (eight years ago)

The Ringleader of the Tormentors Cycle.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:16 (eight years ago)

november spawned a meistersinger

― faust apes (NickB), Monday, 22 January 2018 20:21 (eight years ago)

Valkyrie & I

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:23 (eight years ago)

Rourke himself has also issued the following statement:

"I am deeply saddened that during the week of the death of my dear friend Dolores O'Riordan, that false statements are made on my behalf. At no time did I give my consent for anyone in connection with this Classically Smiths project to act on my behalf or my name and nothing was ever confirmed, approved or contracted by me or my team."

― the pinefox, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:24 (eight years ago)

So is Mike Joyce even involved?

― godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 January 2018 20:46 (eight years ago)

William Tell, It Was Really Nothing

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:11 (eight years ago)

Well this all became a total clusterfuck

https://www.facebook.com/mikejoyceofficial/posts/1563982187016807

https://www.facebook.com/craig.gannon.18/posts/10156147205244697

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:00 (eight years ago)

Shocked, I tell you!

― StanM, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:06 (eight years ago)

I guess you could say that's the end of that. Or, as a classical music fan might say, "Girlfriend in a Coda."

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:09 (eight years ago)

And now, the lead violinist in the orchestra makes a statement

― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:10 (eight years ago)

(I had like five other Smiths-related puns lined up and now have no use for them. Sigh.)

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:11 (eight years ago)

i feel bad for the members of the orchestra

i: they are caught up in a vitriolic shitstorm not of their making, with derision hard on its heels
ii: they have been having to rehearse arrangements of smiths songs lol

― mark s, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:17 (eight years ago)

They were looking for a job, then they found a job, then they lost a job.

― bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:19 (eight years ago)

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