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replace that second 'impossibly' with an emphatic adjective of your choosing

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 June 2003 12:11 (twenty-three years ago)

"not without its successes". writing furiously so as to avoid doing other work is not without its problems.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 1 June 2003 18:49 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

new @ milkfactory.co.uk:

review: BROADCAST - Haha Sound
http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/reviews/broadcast_hahasound.htm

Broadcast interview
http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/interviews/broadcastiw_1.htm

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

ah, no mention of jazz in the review. the two instrumentals on the ep had worried me.

― keith (keithmcl), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the new album's much poppier than the pendulum EP. that is to say, it has songs.

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

the instrumentals on the EP seem a bit throwaway but the songs on it were great. the album is dominated by SONGS too which i suppose is the smart thing to do.

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

so did anybody else pick this up today?

a couple listens in i feel like "pendulum" is what had been promised from the beginning and from here the only places to go are back to the radiophonic workshop or in circles round add n to x and middling twee pop. :(

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 02:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Broadcast broadcasts:

Monday 18.08.03 on xfm (10.30 pm to 1 am, I think)

Tuesday 19.08.03 on John Peel/BBC radio 1 (10 pm to midnight)

― Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 14 August 2003 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

'Before We Begin' is the number one song in heaven. considering 'Come On Lets Go' was ignored by everyone but Peel listeners anyway, this is the second stab at palatable radio-friendly single - the closest they'll ever get to it anyway. but this song really should come out with a video and get played - i see no reason why not, or why it couldn't get in the charts. but why 'degrade' themselves with all that eh?

'Man Is Not A Bird' echoes 'Pendulum' rhythmically but the vocals are less urgent, more sullen and melancholic - just as haunting overall

'Minim', 'Lunch Hour Pops' and 'Hawk' are my other favourites...i'm not sure its quite as good as 'The Noise Made By People' but i don't know how to rationalise that - i think mitch may have been otm regarding they've pedestrianised things a little with the song structure and the starkness and sheer celebration of sonics inherent in previous work has been a little obscured here by sweet lyrics and dulcit unintrusive tones. i think i like Trish Keenan's voice because of that 'unintrusiveness' aspect - often it just seems like she's there observing and commentating on the song or its scenery rather than really pushing some kind of soul-baring introspection ala Beth Gibbons or whoever. but then if you think back to 'Papercuts', 'Message From Home' or even something like 'Living Room' which sounds more like Sean Lennon singing (may not have been Keenan but hard to tell!) it seems that there was more 'effort' in the singing but acceptance seems to have set in that there's a restricted range to her voice and the new songs have been written with that more in mind (considering the vastness of their forthcoming American tour perhaps this was a good idea). but i don't really know enough about singing to judge her like that. i'll keep listening and loving it anyway.

one thing tho - listen to Broadcast's remix of St Etienne's 'Angel' and perhaps compare Cracknell's vocals on that to Keenan's to see whether a voice more like Cracknell's would work better on other Broadcast material?

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

It IS a weird one, having always reallyreally liked but not quite loved The Noise Made By People I thought this one would nudge me into super-besotted orbit but I think I'm going to have to live with it for a bit before it becomes total life essential kind of thing.

Kerrrrrrrazily I HAVE come to love TNMBP over last couple of months and am currently playing it near-constantly, so I dunno. Broadcast may be the ultimate grower group ever ever, although they've had enough hugely-immediate moments (Come On Let's Go, The Book Lovers, etc etc) to suggest that this isn't the case. Haha Sound is fantastic though and I can only see myself getting more into it, rather than going off it.

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I know that 'haha sound' is going to be one of my top 3 favourite albums of 2003. The tunes, the playing, Trish's voice, electronic weirdness - mmm.

Current personal best track = 'Valerie' - great tune, the breathy vocals, spooky lullaby quality. I hope they play more UK dates after the monster US tour, as from their ULU showing in May some of these songs sound even stronger live!

― Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 14 August 2003 11:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I have listened to it four times in succession and am unable to stop. Already is has made the leap to essential-and-Necessary. I knew it was all going to turn out okay really.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I really like it, but the sound is so dense i have to listen to it a little bit at a time i find.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 14 August 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I found that at first but now it zooms by, halfway through the songs seem to unravel a bit and become more fragmented and less fully-formed and suddenly the album has finished earlier than you expect. Which is always always always preferable to it dragging on longer than you'd hope, clearly, and leaves me hungrily returning for more.

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Thursday, 14 August 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

otm alex! i found that too, the album's a carousel but there's only two people on it, you and some kid. but the ride's over too quickly it seems, and then you realise the kids is the younger you. this is all complete nonsense but there you go (i am not drunk )...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 14 August 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, too intense and rich on first listen to get very far into it but it's obviously a classy bit of work.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

twee, grower? hmmm...it is perfect right from the very first note. i suppose it is twee if you mean what i think you mean, pretty and melodic. why does every broadcast review have to have the word lullabye in it? is there a memo? also got the new lexaunculpt, they complement each other nicely.

― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 16 August 2003 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

'Before We Begin' is pretty darn twee which bugs me cos I didn't seem to really care or notice that much until only now. good job its not scarf weather yet and won't be for some time

― stevem (blueski), Saturday, 16 August 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're using twee as a metaphor for lovely, then Before We Begin is very much there.

Colour Me In, though, does actually sound like it's been written for the soundtrack of Playschool. Which is great.

― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 16 August 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry for using 'lullaby' (& for spelling it incorrectly) - it seemed somehow appropriate for a song about going to bed/sleep.

They are a great band though: on their Peel Session last night they finished with a song ('60/40') that is better than several on the album & they didn't even include it on it! The band build & build, going into accelerating orbit whilst Trish stays cool & calm on the same level all the way through. Magic. If you missed it I am afraid you will have to listen all the way through to nearly the end of the programme to hear it.

― Mooro (Mooro), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The singer's voice is hopelessly amateur and so is this album.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

amateur like a fox!

― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

mary has been talking to gareth (sigh)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't! (Not about Broadcast anyway.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

i think Trish has as much as admitted in interviews that she's not the most powerful or versatile of vocalists - but still pretty sweet. but as far as the production and musicianship and songcraft go - amateurish?!?! absolute insanity...there IS a rougher and sketchier aspect to the production on 'haha sound' compared to the previous albums however - perhaps they were caught between two stools to an extent regarding this 'songs vs sounds' battle that's been touched on upthread. i'm listening to it loads but can't really develop proper criticisms except for aforementioned and retreading somewhat (Come On Let's Go > Before We Begin except the latter is now so just more relevant tho i think it has quite gorgeous timeless aspects)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Even the album title is silly!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

oh you

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

amateur like sarah cracknell! (this is not a value judgement.)

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Even the album title is silly!

No silly album titles for Mary! Hey wait, what's this copy of Your Arsenal doing in your collection? (But I tease Mary. :-))

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary puts the ease in tease

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

What's wrong with *Your Arsenal*? As for amateur female singers, if they are not Japanese, I have no use for them.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

but she's not amateur

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that's a bit problematic, innit

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean it sounds like something momus would say

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i think (and hope) you're referring to mary's post

Mary's jones for Yoko Ono now public (assuming it already wasn't)

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

momus is surely an amateur

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

but he's not female and japanese?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

thank god...he'd be even more in love with himself than he is now

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hitchcock once said of Charles Laughton dismissively that he was 'an amateur.' And when that got back to Laughton, Laughton just shrugged and said, 'Well. It means lover. I love my work.'"

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Yoko Ono.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

good solid article here

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

old broadcast

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

trish keenan is one of my favourite female vocalists

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Even her name is silly.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Mary I kiss you

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe Hitchcock said that about Charles Laughton.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

stevem is right. the more i listen to this album the more it sounds like treading water.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

old broadcast

thanks v much steve!

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 August 2003 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

it's so impeccable: impeccable rhythms, lyrics, influences, production, arrangements, artwork, label, photos, reviews. But listening, you have the sense that it wasn't quite natural, that they've acheived this very laboriously, you can almost hear the painful effort they labour under not to break into a velvet underground riff or just do a song in 4/4. it seems a lot of work for something that's, well.... a bit antiseptic.

― pulpo, Thursday, 21 August 2003 07:10 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the second time we've seen Mary criticize a great album title in as many weeks! What does SHE want!?

― marianna, Thursday, 21 August 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

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