Very different vibe than Shyne Coldchain; much more militant and inflamed; a little less ruminative. It's awesome but in a different way.
I still think it's three songs short of being a complete artistic statement tho. The brevity works, but I want more.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
Senorita video is pretty great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OAYMMod9Wo&feature=youtu.be
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 15:35 (nine years ago) link
good song but sampling Future on the hook of a single in 2015 is a weird worst of both worlds move
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 17:12 (nine years ago) link
initial impression: album is a masterpiece
― Evan R, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
did it leak???
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link
(i plan fully on buying this one but am v excited for this)
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link
how d'you hear it ?
i like this itw :http://www.thefader.com/2015/06/09/vince-staples-interview-summertime-06
― ANU (sisilafami), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link
I've got a review copy. Kind of threw me at first, since it's not as singles minded as Hell Can Wait, but damn, he's got some jaw-droppers here, one after another for long stretches. It's absolutely incredible.
― Evan R, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link
oh mannnnnn
― slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:11 (nine years ago) link
Can't wait for this album
― pophatte (admrl), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:15 (nine years ago) link
I don't know as much as I'd like to about the NBA, but I watched all of this just to hear Vince talk:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkgJxxSH2Yg
― pophatte (admrl), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:19 (nine years ago) link
is there stuff that goes even deeper than Hands Up?
― the discussions, the slanging matches, the banter, the lot (imago), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 21:20 (nine years ago) link
nothing is quite as hard as Hands Up, but there are songs that come close and he sustains that intensity for tracks at a time. Impressive that he pulls of a double album, given how brevity-minded his other projects have been
― Evan R, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link
he was good on the nightly show. clever guy.
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 June 2015 19:41 (nine years ago) link
new one, "get paid" http://vevo.ly/7Nscms
i dig how haunted this sounds
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link
legitimately havent had as much anticipation for an album in a long-ass time
― slothroprhymes, Monday, 15 June 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link
Senorita is dope. what's the concern about sampling Future?
― alpine static, Monday, 15 June 2015 20:30 (nine years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2015/06/21/414701194/first-listen-vince-staples-summertime-06
:D
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 04:00 (eight years ago) link
can't stay up late to listen to the whole thing but went through the first three tracks and wow, norf norf is incredible in particular
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 04:02 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, this album is really something.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Monday, 22 June 2015 06:02 (eight years ago) link
this is awesome
― the late great, Monday, 22 June 2015 06:19 (eight years ago) link
someone be sure to bump this thread when Vince makes a misstep ... ain't happened yet
― alpine static, Monday, 22 June 2015 06:44 (eight years ago) link
About halfway through the album, pretty great so far. Señorita sounds even better in context.
― thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 June 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
This is my fav AOTY so far
― Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
absolutely
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:07 (eight years ago) link
the sound is practically skeletal and almost entirely minor key and that works perfectly the whole time w/o ever growing monotonous
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link
you mean I have to stop listening to Miguel
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
yes alfred, just for an hour.
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
wildheart is def also gunning for the #1 spot tbf
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
it's been an incredible year
― Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Wow. Miguel and Vince Staples arrive in one day. But yeah, this is great - almost too deep to take in. I like it that he's defined his musical aesthetic so clearly that this isn't a double album grab bag of stuff. It's just one dope track after another where I'm mesmerized by his voice. A little like when I first heard Nas.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
so this is a good album
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link
"norf norf" is so fucking great
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
i'll have to stop listening to this to hear Miguel, not the other way around #priorities
― alpine static, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
if this season of true detective was in compton, "dopeman" would be a perfect theme song, so quietly menacing. it's sort of an interstitial more than a full fledged song but I love it
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
this is soooooooooo good
― the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
It is but too long imo
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
I haven't even listened to the second disc yet
― the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
This could be forever, babyThis could be forever, babyThis could be forever, babyThis could be forever, maybeDo you like the sunshine, do you like the snow?Do you wanna talk about it, or be alone?I think that you should know that, this could be forever, baby
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link
dragged my sick self out of the house to buy a copy of this & it was sold out, which makes me happy tbh. good for vince.
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
this album is pretty special huh
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
I love it now.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep
also really amazing sounding - the enormous bass!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
was just gonna talk about the bass. I think this album was made just strictly for my taste
― Spottie, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 06:25 (eight years ago) link
the "birds & bees" beat sounds like mezzanine-era massive attack
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:14 (eight years ago) link
Woah that is spot on
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:51 (eight years ago) link
that and all the featuring birds being of the topley variety
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
ha -- I was going to say Angels with Dirty Faces
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
i felt like there was a lot of tricky about vince himself, haven't worked out whether it was just the above sonic associations making me think so
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 11:15 (eight years ago) link
too early in the romance to say but this probably an AOTY contender for me.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
"dispiriting" has been my general feeling re his last few releases. I don't detect a lot of enjoyment.
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 21:52 (two years ago) link
ever since he started spouting landlord shit about art his music went bad tbh
― imago, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:06 (two years ago) link
landlord shit?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:52 (two years ago) link
I like this album a lot
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link
Gave this a cursory listen. Beats sound like trap by numbers and he sounds like he's rapping while looking at his phone. But I didn't hate it, will give it more of a chance.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 05:10 (two years ago) link
Kenny Beats seems like a very nice guy who mostly makes very boring beats. (Except for The Cave episode w/ Freddie Gibbs but that's down to the Lil Sko sample.)
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 14 July 2021 06:15 (two years ago) link
Really want him to do another album with out there production (for modern rap standards) like on BFT. Really wasn't impressed with the new album besides maybe the first track
― ClimbingThieves, Thursday, 15 July 2021 21:15 (two years ago) link
This album (Ramona Park Broke My Heart) is really great huh
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 15 April 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link
I like it though I put on Summertime 06 the other day and I forgot how much energy he used to bring. His recent stuff is good but so much more muted.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 15 April 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
otm
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 April 2022 19:02 (two years ago) link
Everything he's done since Summertime 06 has been a disappointment, of different kids. The tinge of anger that made him fascinating is mostly gone, and his beats are far less interesting.
― paulhw, Friday, 15 April 2022 19:41 (two years ago) link
i like the new album a lot, and respect how he's changed as an artist, but that hell can wait-summertime 06-prima donna era had something special, which he's lost.
xp idk i think the beats on the new one are very well done, if unflashy, especially the dj dahi joints - "dj quik" and "papercuts"
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 April 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link
The most interesting things he’s done since Summertime ‘06 are press interviews.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 April 2022 20:27 (two years ago) link
I give every one of these albums (or EPs, or “projects”) a shake. And every time I just can’t and don’t know why I hang in there.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 April 2022 20:35 (two years ago) link
Actually, the 2016 Prima Donna ep is the most concentrated thing he's ever released, and the Andre 3000 appearance is his best in god knows how many years.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 April 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
why is everyone pretending that big fish theory was bad
― ufo, Saturday, 16 April 2022 00:56 (two years ago) link
I like Big Fish Theory — it’s my son’s favorite Vince Staples album, it has a following. The new one sounded good when he put it on in the car the other day, I haven’t yet given it a full listen. I agree overall that Summertime 06 is his best, I put that on the other week and even the tracks I’d forgotten were good.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 April 2022 02:09 (two years ago) link
the new one is fine and is a fair improvement from the last two which were very slight, but it's not really anything to get excited about like he once was capable of
― ufo, Saturday, 16 April 2022 03:46 (two years ago) link
feels like the tone of each progressive release just gets mellower
― mh, Monday, 18 April 2022 17:44 (two years ago) link
new show on netflix & he drew inspiration from roy andersson -
We take a lot of inspiration in Roy Andersson, one of my favorite filmmakers. In his film “A Pigeon Sat on a Branch Reflecting on Existence,” he has this shot in this restaurant or a cafeteria, where a lot of the people are separated by the pillars and just entering and exiting a frame. Things that are happening in the distance and things that are happening closer to camera, everything matters in the shot, especially when you stay within a wide. So I think operating within a wide sometimes allows you to bring subtle details and nuances to the shot, and the disposition of the people within the bank can speak to their relationships, speak to their experience.
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 15 February 2024 12:55 (four months ago) link
Thanks for reminding me - I want to check this out.
(Sadly the most excited I’ve been about Staples in a good long while)
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:21 (four months ago) link
Binged the show this weekend. The easy read is Atlanta-lite. What am I missing? Been into him since Shyne Coldchain but this just didn’t land. I hope there’s another season.
― avoid boring people, Monday, 26 February 2024 07:53 (three months ago) link
Dark Times is the first Staples LP since Summertime 06 that is clicking with me all the way through. It’s all working perfectly here
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 26 May 2024 19:40 (three weeks ago) link
Agreed! Summertime 06 and S/T are his high points and this is definitely in league with those.
― avoid boring people, Sunday, 26 May 2024 20:55 (three weeks ago) link
prefer this to anything he's done since big fish. he's a great writer, and this is the first time since summertime '06 that his songs are so meticulously crafted. also the first album to take full advantage of his calmer delivery, it never gets sleepy and he never sounds bored, which is an issue i had with ramona park and the self-titled
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Monday, 27 May 2024 18:37 (three weeks ago) link
Looking forward to getting into this. The producers didn't ring a bell, anyone familiar?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 27 May 2024 20:06 (three weeks ago) link
Some of his best beats in ages ("Étouffée"0.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:46 (two weeks ago) link
I feel like a lot of elements have to be just right for a Staples release to work - he’s got to be in the right zone of writing and spitting, the production has to be on point, etc. A lot of stuff he’s done over the past 11 years has an element or two wrong and it just wrecks the whole thing for me
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 16:38 (two weeks ago) link
His flow on “Justin” gives me major A Tribe Called Quest feels
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 16:42 (two weeks ago) link
Never knew I needed a NOLA bounce homage from Vince Staples. This is sounding great so far.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:14 (two weeks ago) link
re: producers, etouffee is mike hector, who produced god for kendrick, among others, and jay versace, the former internet comedian turned producer who did “smoking on my ex pack” for sza, and whosantoine, who i haven’t heard of but i am sure is great
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:21 (two weeks ago) link
looking at the rest of the credits, the only other producers i know are the great cardo (got wings), who is behind “radio” (one of my highlights), and michael uzowuru, who has worked with sza and frank ocean, and has several credits on here
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:24 (two weeks ago) link
Thanks!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:25 (two weeks ago) link
cardo's mixtapes with payroll giovanni are so good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:39 (two weeks ago) link
The beginning of “Freeman” has haunted me since I first heard it
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 15 June 2024 15:01 (two days ago) link