dear lord
― ๐ช๐โ ๏ธ (DJP), Monday, 13 October 2014 18:59 (nine years ago) link
SHUT IT DOWN
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
Ok, looks like it's not what it sounds like:http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2014/10/nigerian_independence_day_parade_2014_cloudy_with_a_chance_of_ebola.php?utm_content=buffer346a8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 13 October 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
there oughta be a law that all writers have the right to title their own pieces; that's clickbait of the worst kind there
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 October 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
HEYYYyyyyyy it's our SHITTIEST COVER EVER!
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4rJBB-pozEYTIIS6jaNr9ZLQGXzpf8rLNDD_OvK7LGdiKJQlp
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 04:32 (nine years ago) link
ha, that really is egregious
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 05:20 (nine years ago) link
it kind of looks like this magazine I used to see in central jersey that was mostly reviews of bars and strip clubs
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 05:29 (nine years ago) link
is that cover intentionally hideous?
― I dunno. (amateurist), Thursday, 16 October 2014 08:26 (nine years ago) link
My money is on either angry art director or incompetent intern
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link
It does have a slightly "break every design rule" quality to it, but not quite enough so to be "anti-aesthetic." It's weird to think someone actually went to the trouble to make that Statue of Liberty illustration -- wonder if it's modified clip art or something.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
http://media.villagevoice.com/10081112.128.jpg
http://media.villagevoice.com/10081114.75.jpg
― maura, Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:16 (nine years ago) link
the sandwich one...
― the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
is it a drag SOL doing the Heisman?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Thursday, 16 October 2014 20:45 (nine years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/nyregion/village-voice-sold-to-peter-barbey-owner-of-a-pennsylvania-newspaper.html
Peter D. Barbey, through his investment company Black Walnut Holdings L.L.C., bought the paper from Voice Media Group, which owns a string of weeklies around the country.
The financial terms of the deal were not disclosed, and Mr. Barbey declined to discuss the details.
However, in an interview, he vowed to invest in the paper and once again make it relevant in the cultural life of New York City.
โI realize that The Voice has had a unique journalistic role in New York and the country as a whole,โ Mr. Barbey, 58, said. โThat deserves to survive and prosper.โ
The paper, he said, was once an essential โvoice of the arts and cultural community in New York.โ While he will not take over full control of the paper until February, Mr. Barbey said he would focus first on bolstering its arts coverage โ mainly by attracting top writers.
โOver the years itโs been known as a place that made writersโ reputations,โ Mr. Barbey said. โIf you were a good writer, you wanted to write for The Voice.โ
โOne of the biggest problems in media today is lack of attention to content,โ he said. โMany publications have stripped their content.โ
That will not happen under his watch, he said.
When asked about the financial resources he would devote to the paper, Mr. Barbey would not be specific but noted that his familyโs wealth could be ascertained quickly through a Google search.
The Barbeys rank 48th on the Forbes list of Americaโs wealthiest families.
― it's not a tuomas (benbbag), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 13:06 (eight years ago) link
hmanybody got some perspective on this?
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2015/10/8579442/meet-peter-barbey-latest-owner-take-village-voice
Skeptics will abound, including some of those very Voice vets.
"You mean the Voice still exists?" Hoberman sniffed when asked for his thoughts on the sale. Seriously though: "Even if the new owners are inclined to spend money, they'll have a near impossible time restoring any credibility."
"Weeklies, accustomed to big reports without much of a time peg, seem to have had a particularly difficult transition to a mixed digital/print publishing model," Poynter Institute media analyst Rick Edmonds wrote on Monday. "Best case โ Barbey will also infuse some money and editorial vitality into the Village Voice. But I wouldnโt look for a turnaround ... given how much the business base for the Voice and similar publications has deteriorated."
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
i feel like you'd have to be very VERY rich to actually sink enough money into the VV to turn it around and not worry about the losses. is he that rich?
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 13 October 2015 22:28 (eight years ago) link
yeshttp://nypost.com/2015/10/12/pennsylvania-family-set-to-own-the-village-voice/
The Barbey family, the 48th richest in America, according to Forbes โ with a net worth of $6.1 billion โ derives most of its fortune from a 20 percent stake in apparel maker VF Corp., maker of Lee, Wrangler and North Face apparel.
― a literal scarecrow on a quaint porch (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 03:13 (eight years ago) link
welp http://fusion.kinja.com/the-village-voices-liberal-savior-owner-is-trying-to-cr-1796054657
― breaking kayfefe (s.clover), Thursday, 29 June 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link
The Village Voice is ending its weekly print edition. End of a journalism era in New York City.— Michael M. Grynbaum (@grynbaum) August 22, 2017
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
Village Voice ownership shutters paper, will continue it "as a brand" online and as "a host of new events, products and initiatives." https://t.co/HUu3C8yBXu— Nick Pinto (@macfathom) August 22, 2017
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link
oof
― nomar, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
The Village Voice also published this. I feel reason #15, by @mgerber937, is one of the greatest jokes in history https://t.co/88NBsbMCt6 pic.twitter.com/bMLTEyi1SV— Jon Schwarz (@tinyrevolution) August 22, 2017
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link
Yeah this is sad. Yoko used to take out these cool full page ads, a couple in the last year or so, with photos of her and John and lyrics to songs or other things and I wonder if she'll continue this online and I'd guess not
― calstars, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/what-were-losing-when-we-say-goodbye-to-alt-weeklies-the-rebels-of-journalism/2017/08/23/abc8e5f4-876d-11e7-a94f-3139abce39f5_story.html?utm_term=.37d156cb0c5f
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/aug/23/america-alt-weeklies-baltimore-city-paper-village-voice
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 August 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2017/08/25/545810902/village-voice-music-editors-writers-stories
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 28 August 2017 16:01 (six years ago) link
R.I.P.http://gothamist.com/2018/08/31/village_voice_is_officially_dead.php
I, for one, wish/hope someone/somewhere picks up Pazz & Jop and continues it.
― alpine static, Friday, 31 August 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link
"today is kind of a sucky day" jfc
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link
its been a long goodbye but it still hurts
― Hakim Bae's TMZ (s.clover), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
L.A. Weekly still creaking along w/me-first careerists sticking around for the new right-wing regime
― omar little, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
dumb question, i guess: why doesn't some liberal billionaire buy up all the papers that need help, install good managers, and be a hero?
i realize it's hard to hemorrhage money forever, but some people can afford it. why not hire the right people and tell them "hey, lose as little money as you can, please, but i've got your back. and also keep tinkering with new methods and content and who knows maybe you'll hit on something that helps in a big way."
this is what i would do if i had the money.
― alpine static, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link
there's Jeff Bezos I guess
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link
he said liberal
― โซโโซ (sic), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
tbh after the print ed shut, i never looked at it unless i saw a link to a piece.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
by that definition "liberal billionaire" is an oxymoron
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
Wrote many times in the late '00s yet even with the superb editors who tightened my sentences (never forgot a PHONE line edit with Chuck Eddy in early 2006) there was already a sense in which the clock was ticking. I'm sorry I lived long enough to see this day.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link
I'm amazed our two alt-weeklies have survived the shrinkage since they had to stop running sex work ads - the Dallas Observer is a shell that runs a scattering of local political news and reprints national stories (from New Times, I guess?), the FW Weekly is even smaller but pretty left-wing, they've been running stories from local DSA people every so often.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
I wrote a letter to the VV in the '90s about Public Enemy's homophobia (Flavor Flav's really), and someone phoned me to carefully line-edit that.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
I think it's safe to say that without the Village Voice I might never have achieved my dream of being a childless 37-year-old debt-ridden "critic's critic" with a niche social media presence and chronic knee pain RIP.— ๐ฟ๐๐๐๐๐๐ ๐ฐ๐๐๐๐ ๐ฏ๐๐ (@NickPinkerton) August 31, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 August 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
I care somewhat, not much. The end of the print run seemed much more historically significant. But the online version meant there was still Pazz & Jop, and without that, I'll literally lose my final motivation (following the end of my "freelance" "career" and the implosion of a college radio station where I had a show) to keep up with new music.
Pleasure? I guess I could try that.
― clemenza, Friday, 31 August 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link
wasn't sure which thread to bump, but...
I know it was only a shadow of itself over the last several years, but the actual demise of the Village Voice makes me very nostalgic
It was the print publication that I cared about above all others in the 80s and 90s. there were so many great writers who contributed to it
― Dan S, Friday, 31 August 2018 22:47 (five years ago) link
oh I see this thread has already been revived!
― Dan S, Friday, 31 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
This last (hopefully just latest) owner proclaimed that he intended to bring back the pre-New Times glory days, but I later read that he'd invested in extremely expensive real estate, a palace in the Village/ Also he busted or greatly impaired the union (the Voice had its own union). So a capital drain, talent drain (I know several people who made a point of avoiding the place/brand after that, though they all needed/need the work).I, for one, wish/hope someone/somewhere picks up Pazz & Jop and continues it.Maybe a GoFundMe? Too much for a labor of love, also too much for noobs.
― dow, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link
Maybe most of all a credibility drain? Other activities showing what his real priorities were (dude might've been lying to himself, even).
― dow, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link
I was there when Nat Hentoff cleaned his office. They filled dumpsters. I took a bunch of Philip Roth books that were left out. I learned that I hate Philip Roth.
― Yerac, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:29 (five years ago) link
lol
― Dan S, Saturday, 1 September 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link
VV died for me when Chuck E was fired, not sure I missed a lot
― President Keyes, Saturday, 1 September 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link
what would it really take to keep P&J going somewhere else?
- someone w/ time and/or $, plus motivation- a platform- VV's mailing list- some way to tabulate
am i missing something major?
― alpine static, Saturday, 1 September 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link
revive jackin' pop
― dyl, Saturday, 1 September 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link