Oh, and Robert, I'm generally with you on your rankings. Rock and Roll Singer should be next on your search list. Also the Hultsfred 1997 live versions of Old Ramon tracks are far superior to the studio versions.
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:18 (eleven years ago)
stone temple pilots, they're elegant bachelors
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:20 (eleven years ago)
Thanks Doug.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 01:44 (eleven years ago)
old ramon was a huge disappointment when it finally came out. we sat around and waited to hear that for years. it's less irritating now but at the time, eh.
― akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)
Is that live bootleg big among fans? There is one song in particular I'd love to hear but can't remember the title.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 11:24 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhjAF9oQyc
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:27 (eleven years ago)
Sorry that the clip doesn't embed.
Listening to it now, I'm baffled by how P4k could get so excited about Benji. It's like stanning for Lou Reed's Take No Prisoners at the expense of the entire back-catalog of the Velvet Underground.
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:31 (eleven years ago)
Take No Prisoners rules!
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:45 (eleven years ago)
i love old ramon but then i've never actually heard that bootleg
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)
guitar tone on old ramon is the most gorgeous thing
kinda kozelek agnostic, but i love most of old ramon.
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)
the best thing on Old Ramon is indeed Phil Carney's guitar.
― akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)
channeling Steve Hackett
I hadn't yet picked up on the Hackett comparison, must now relisten
― doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:30 (eleven years ago)
some bullshit about this in pitchfork: " "Suck my cock" is a command heard most often in two places: heterosexual porn, and schoolyard taunts between presumably straight boys" such a joyless reading i mean lots of people say suck my cock in contexts that are much more fun. i bet there are plenty of dyke power tops who have used it and meant it as an example, obviously there are more. if you presume everything takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality then of course everything can be read as the violent product of this culture but i mean who has the time
― plax (ico), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (eleven years ago)
srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (eleven years ago)
dude totally could be imitating dyke power tops
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:14 (eleven years ago)
i just got a promo of mark's new solo album, and he has really gone off the deep end this time...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1911787_10153393520727137_6536637952645129286_n.jpg?oh=7261f1826b19307d3151bd9c82f7a016&oe=54CA9702&__gda__=1425446482_e3ea6b9354ec16fd27a885e8961c0785
― scott seward, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:19 (eleven years ago)
Did someone say power hops? Because I could sure go for a cool, refreshing 9% abv IPA.
― how's life, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)
War on Drugs, suck my hops
― Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)
lol
I know tomorrowYou will be somewhere in LondonLiving with someoneyou want some kind of trumpeter to play twoand that's just what i'm gonna give you*solo*
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)
Looked around for the Old Ramon song I loved and it's "Void". Fucking great song.
I haven't read the insults, listened to the song or read the articles, but all the controversy has put me in the most Kozelek hungry I've been in years.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)
"Kozelek. Now available with aspartame."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:50 (eleven years ago)
if you listen to the end of void, the intertwined lead guitars (which is carney overdubbed) absolutely sounds like Hackett circa Nursery Cryme.
― akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)
I guess I'm an outlier but my favorite Kozelek period is Songs From a Blue Guitar/Old Ramon/If You Want Blood/Ghosts of the Great Highway.
― campreverb, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:53 (eleven years ago)
― da croupier, Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:22 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Amazing
― Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)
Kool Kat Song
― Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah but you find what you want in a culture. a hermeneutics of intent is a pretty pointless way of reading anything but hey i guess you could ring up david lynch and ask him what the log lady means.
― plax (ico), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)
stop trying to lie to us like her log didn't see something that night
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:57 (eleven years ago)
Is Retrospective worth getting for the demos and live versions?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)
No.
― campreverb, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)
Yes.
― Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:15 (eleven years ago)
it's ok. you can probably find it incredibly cheap.
― akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)
Mission Accomplished.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:18 (eleven years ago)
plax otm
― fuhgeddaboudit! (missingNO), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:26 (eleven years ago)
constant
― local eire man (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)
damn yall some limber motherfuckers with the gymnastics in this thread
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:27 (eleven years ago)
stop objectifying us
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:45 (eleven years ago)
everybody's moved on to the Grimes/Ariel Pink beef now anyway
― Number None, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:52 (eleven years ago)
can't wait to see what next week has in store!
speaking of dried beef
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 20:53 (eleven years ago)
BEEF CROSSOVER http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/98711973564/people-who-dont-like-the-smashing-pumpkins-can
― jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:22 (eleven years ago)
survivorman once ate some beef that had crossed over
― GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 22:25 (eleven years ago)
http://pitchfork.com/news/57253-mark-kozelek-adam-granofsky-blues/
oops he did it again
― and also pointsman, octopi don't bark (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:34 (eleven years ago)
Seriously Mark. This is some full fledged bullying! I mean, I kinda had this theory that he's been doing this to clown all of the media outlets that are since Benji suddenly paying close attention to the things he's always been doing. But damn.
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:41 (eleven years ago)
This guy went like five notches down in my esteem for his pointless, childish diss tracks.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:48 (eleven years ago)
to what granularity do you esteem?
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:55 (eleven years ago)
Maybe he's trying to sabotage his recent new Benji fan base and get back to how it was before.
― Evan, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:57 (eleven years ago)
He had that little stupid dig at Nels Cline on Benji -- kind of funny but also just kind of insecure that there are people who play guitar better than him.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 21:59 (eleven years ago)