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jfc yall are fuckin morons sometimes

adam, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:38 (eleven years ago)

Who's fucking Christ? Not kozelek.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:45 (eleven years ago)

Who's fuckin morons? Not kozelek.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:46 (eleven years ago)

hey everybody come and look at the violence inherent in the system

local eire man (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:49 (eleven years ago)

mark kozelek would never stoop to such a level god how gross

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:50 (eleven years ago)

No results found for "mark hoselick"

― john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Evan, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:52 (eleven years ago)

aaahahahahahaha outstanding

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)

Drew Daniel from Matmos kind of dropped some knowledge on this topic:

https://twitter.com/DDDrewDaniel

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 22:57 (eleven years ago)

OTM. The ageist parts of the essay didn't even make sense anyway.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)

also, the two main ottawa folk festival stages did point directly at each other this year. they at least angled them away from each other in previous years. come on, ottawa!

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:07 (eleven years ago)

Yeah, it was weird. Mark Kozelek isn't sliding into irelevance, he is more popular than ever. And actually, 'white guys who were big in the nineties' is pretty much the new black in the industry atm. None of those are particularly good things, imo, but it is what it is.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:20 (eleven years ago)

Right, and he didn't choose John Mellencamp because he's an old dude trying to stay relevant to the younger crowd. He chose Mellencamp because he is trying to punch up. He thinks he is punching up at TWOD as well, and he is in some ways. Still, the pitchfork essay was worthwhile given the praise and exposure given to his choice of hate filled language. It's just weird that the essay also contains this incorrect and ageist analysis of kozelek's motivation for his word choice.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:38 (eleven years ago)

he covered Ted Nugent recently. He is not gunning for the hearts of youngsters.

GhostTunes on my Pono (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:41 (eleven years ago)

it's all over now, baby blue

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 23:54 (eleven years ago)

It's absurd to me that this incident has received such extended analysis. That said, Drew kinda nails it.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:16 (eleven years ago)

Oh, and Robert, I'm generally with you on your rankings. Rock and Roll Singer should be next on your search list. Also the Hultsfred 1997 live versions of Old Ramon tracks are far superior to the studio versions.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:18 (eleven years ago)

stone temple pilots, they're elegant bachelors

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 9 October 2014 00:20 (eleven years ago)

Thanks Doug.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 01:44 (eleven years ago)

old ramon was a huge disappointment when it finally came out. we sat around and waited to hear that for years. it's less irritating now but at the time, eh.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 04:06 (eleven years ago)

Is that live bootleg big among fans? There is one song in particular I'd love to hear but can't remember the title.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 11:24 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rhjAF9oQyc

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:27 (eleven years ago)

Sorry that the clip doesn't embed.

Listening to it now, I'm baffled by how P4k could get so excited about Benji. It's like stanning for Lou Reed's Take No Prisoners at the expense of the entire back-catalog of the Velvet Underground.

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:31 (eleven years ago)

Take No Prisoners rules!

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 October 2014 13:45 (eleven years ago)

i love old ramon but then i've never actually heard that bootleg

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)

guitar tone on old ramon is the most gorgeous thing

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 October 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)

kinda kozelek agnostic, but i love most of old ramon.

tylerw, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)

the best thing on Old Ramon is indeed Phil Carney's guitar.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)

channeling Steve Hackett

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)

I hadn't yet picked up on the Hackett comparison, must now relisten

doug watson, Thursday, 9 October 2014 15:30 (eleven years ago)

some bullshit about this in pitchfork: " "Suck my cock" is a command heard most often in two places: heterosexual porn, and schoolyard taunts between presumably straight boys" such a joyless reading i mean lots of people say suck my cock in contexts that are much more fun. i bet there are plenty of dyke power tops who have used it and meant it as an example, obviously there are more. if you presume everything takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality then of course everything can be read as the violent product of this culture but i mean who has the time

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:04 (eleven years ago)

srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality

da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (eleven years ago)

dude totally could be imitating dyke power tops

da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:14 (eleven years ago)

i just got a promo of mark's new solo album, and he has really gone off the deep end this time...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1911787_10153393520727137_6536637952645129286_n.jpg?oh=7261f1826b19307d3151bd9c82f7a016&oe=54CA9702&__gda__=1425446482_e3ea6b9354ec16fd27a885e8961c0785

scott seward, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:19 (eleven years ago)

Did someone say power hops? Because I could sure go for a cool, refreshing 9% abv IPA.

how's life, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)

War on Drugs, suck my hops

Vomits of a Missionary (bernard snowy), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)

lol

how's life, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:21 (eleven years ago)

I know tomorrow
You will be somewhere in London
Living with someone
you want some kind of trumpeter to play two
and that's just what i'm gonna give you
*solo*

da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:22 (eleven years ago)

Looked around for the Old Ramon song I loved and it's "Void". Fucking great song.

I haven't read the insults, listened to the song or read the articles, but all the controversy has put me in the most Kozelek hungry I've been in years.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:41 (eleven years ago)

"Kozelek. Now available with aspartame."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:50 (eleven years ago)

if you listen to the end of void, the intertwined lead guitars (which is carney overdubbed) absolutely sounds like Hackett circa Nursery Cryme.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

I guess I'm an outlier but my favorite Kozelek period is Songs From a Blue Guitar/Old Ramon/If You Want Blood/Ghosts of the Great Highway.

campreverb, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:53 (eleven years ago)

I know tomorrow
You will be somewhere in London
Living with someone
you want some kind of trumpeter to play two
and that's just what i'm gonna give you
*solo*

― da croupier, Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:22 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Amazing

Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:55 (eleven years ago)

Kool Kat Song

Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)

srsly who could think a mark kozelek song takes place within the confines of straight white male sociality

― da croupier, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:13 (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah but you find what you want in a culture. a hermeneutics of intent is a pretty pointless way of reading anything but hey i guess you could ring up david lynch and ask him what the log lady means.

plax (ico), Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:56 (eleven years ago)

stop trying to lie to us like her log didn't see something that night

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 9 October 2014 16:57 (eleven years ago)

Is Retrospective worth getting for the demos and live versions?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:06 (eleven years ago)

Is Retrospective worth getting for the demos and live versions?

No.

campreverb, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:14 (eleven years ago)

Yes.

Evan, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:15 (eleven years ago)

it's ok. you can probably find it incredibly cheap.

akm, Thursday, 9 October 2014 17:16 (eleven years ago)

I haven't read the insults, listened to the song or read the articles, but all the controversy has put me in the most Kozelek hungry I've been in years.

Mission Accomplished.

Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 9 October 2014 18:18 (eleven years ago)


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