i like slum village btw
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link
"apples" "oranges" rev
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
WWJD
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link
this is a weird thread
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
says the guy whose screenname is the equivalent of a "dilla changed my life" shirt
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
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not really sure how so
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link
I think there really is an instinct to speak of fallen heroes in the most familiar terms possible.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i think cuz pac & big, like oranges, are waaaay wayyyy better than jay dee, like apples.
u know???
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:11 (fifteen years ago) link
rev, j dilla didn't die like a gangsta, so it's ok to be all 2006 is lame and shit
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
makes sense to me lol
i meant more comparing common nicknames of huge cultural icons to a guy who was barely known by any name for his best known work in his lifetime is shaky, but i guess i invited it with the part focusing on the 'casual shorthand' part (when the term i should've emphasized would be, say, 'posthumous re-branding').
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
cult of serge, c/d?
all these french kids. hate life.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i started this thread with great conflict in my heart because as patrin is right to note "dil cosby / dil withers suite" is not only the best beatkonducta work yet, it's also an amazing listen
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for Slum Village and doing Jaylib and solo stuff, really had no idea he was responsible for all these Tribe/Badu/Janet/Common/De La/Q-Tip records I knew and liked/loved and mainly associated with 'The Ummah' or 'the Soulquarians' or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 2-3 years later people would be all Dilla this, Dilla that.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link
why people are on his dick for the shitty Tribe albums, Labcabincalifornia, and the post-Paul De La albums is beyond me. Common? ugh fuck that guy
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:30 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost - except meJay Dee a.k.a. Dilla a.k.a. James Yancey - c/d
― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Dilla tracks vs dilla tribute tracks
― H3LP, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
i wasn't on his dick for that stuff, i'm just saying that's the stuff i know and like (and sometimes love), don't really know the underground/instrumental shit that's inspired the cult.
― some dad (some dude), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
anyone heard the orchestra tribute to dilla album?
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
dillbussy
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't tell if that's a custos or real.
― Jordi La Sarge (The Reverend), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
no there's really an album out, they performed it in la a half a month ago dunno what its called
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for (Loose Joints) and doing (Dinosaur L) and solo stuff, really had no idea he was responsible for all these (Flying Hearts)/(Necessaries) records I knew and liked/loved (..) or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 5-10 years later people would be all (Arthur Russell) this, (Arthur Russell) that.
i mean when he died i just barely knew of him for (Bryter Later) and doing (Pink Moon) and (other) stuff, (..) or whatever. so i'm not hating on the guy and i understand there was a brand/name recognition issue with his work while he was still living, it's just funny how he probably would have had no idea when he passed away that 20-30 years later people would be all (Nick Drake) this, (Nick Drake) that.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link
I've yet to see a Nick Drake changed my life shirt.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link
n drilla
― Tracy Michael Jordan Catalano (Jordan), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry
― One of the Most High Profile Comedy Directors of the 90s (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 16, 2009 6:30 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
haa yes like it emerged directly from my heart piece rip dilla
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link
shakey congrats on not liking stuff
― hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Monday, 16 March 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Alex, the cult lives WITHIN THE SELF
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
the self is supposed to, i dunno, flog itself or something for repentence of not being around to know who died after they died or something like that.
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I have no idea what you are talking about.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link
alex, i'm just trying to get all pipecock on you and i'm failing ;_;
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link
most of the dilla stans make their own lil beats at home too - theres def some steve vai style technical aspiration thing going on
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
What do Arthur Russell stans? Write books about Arthur Russell?
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link
stans do, ahem
this is definitely the wrong place to ask, but what is the etymology of 'stan'? i know what it means, but is it short for something?
― ian, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link
The Eminem track.
― Alex in SF, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
dido
― cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i started this thread with great conflict in my heart because as patrin is right to note "dil cosby / dil withers suite" is not only the best beatkonducta work yet, it's also an amazing listen^^^^^ this
― I probably just wasted some more energy in my fingers telling you guys (stevie), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link
also i have no conflict in my heart in saying dilla was stone cold classic, and that the cult of dilla has no effect in either direction upon my feelings about this
― I probably just wasted some more energy in my fingers telling you guys (stevie), Monday, 16 March 2009 23:23 (fifteen years ago) link
"alex, i'm just trying to get all pipecock on you and i'm failing ;_;
― She Is Beyond Food In Weevil (Mackro Mackro)"
you're succeeding at being yourself quite well, by which i mean being retarded. there you go, a good pipecockism for you. if you wanna bite my style, LEARN TO DO IT RIGHT FOOOOOOL.
― pipecock, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
You have a style that people want to bite? No way
― H3LP, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
jesus
― Local Garda, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
the cult of ilm, c/d?
― ilxor, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i think that just about all "tributes" and whatnot to dilla have been pretty weak. those beatconductas are okay, but really they're not essential. i laugh when we get in new tracks at the shop that are all DILLA in title, but sonically they're bullshit.
i don't see what any of this has to do with people giving the man his propers. it's good that people are finally recognizing how great he was. in fact, it was only since he died that i revisited the tribe, pharcyde, and de la albums he was involved with and could appreciate them. that doesn't make EVERYTHING he did good ("electric circus" is a disaster, that one stands out), but it's pretty amazing how good most of what is out there with his name on it is. to the poster hating on Common, that just doesn't make any sense. Common may be something of a joke now, but in the 90's and into the early 00's the guy was the shit. and Dilla's beats on Like Water For Chocolate (which i bought the instrumentals on wax for back in late 00) are completely off the charts.
― pipecock, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
who wants to bite the pipecock
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link
"who wants to bite the pipecock
― ice cr?m"
you'll bust your teeth on that motherfucker
― pipecock, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link
i am not the one
― ice cr?m, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link
life will do that job for us
― Local Garda, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
never bite the cock that feeds you
― pipecock, Monday, 16 March 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
all of those problems have been solved but the dilla cult still exists
mea culpa
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
this really is an amazing time capsule thread, can't believe velko posted in it
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
tbh madlib changed my life
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc that beat isn't from a 1 thru 5 batch, it's from "another batch" 1998.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats @jrocc I don't really give a shit to honest.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 @jrocc to each his own.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats No it's not to each his own. That's the problem. There are facts to this and dudes be freestyling like they know what it is.
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 i know, that's my point. I'm a stickler for facts and details.
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47@kylebeats What facts? Did you get a beat tape from Dilla?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 are you confusing me with someone you don't know?
kwh. @kylebeats@Jeedo47 and why attack me for correcting an obvious mistake? who doesn't know that's 98?
Waajeed AKA Jeedo @Jeedo47More and more annoyed by you so called "Dilla Heads" You really don't have a fuckin clue which I did B47 Breaks in the 1st place.
― Andy K, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
ha awesome
― The Reverend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
wow this thread all over the place
anyways would have been 45 today rip beat maker
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 February 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
this was very touchinghttps://www.instagram.com/tv/CZebNF9hQvt/?utm_medium=copy_link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link
There's a new book too:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/01/arts/music/j-dilla-time-book.html
Charnas also clarifies the story around “Donuts,” an instrumental album that Stones Throw Records released right before Dilla’s death that has become a key entry point for new generations of fans. It’s been said that Dilla recorded “Donuts” in the hospital, embedding messages for loved ones in his compositions as the end approached. In reality, “Donuts” was born from one of the many beat tapes he had made. It was largely edited and extended by Jeff Jank, who worked at Stones Throw, and completed months before Dilla died.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
Just picked up the book yesterday, though I haven't started it. Looks fantastic and there seem to be a lot of beat diagrams sprinkled throughout. Can't wait to dig in, though I've already got two fellow ilxors books on the "next to read" pile first.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 21:22 (two years ago) link
Charnas' book was really good, I appreciated the mix of biography and deeper dive into how he put the beats together.
Listening to the Welcome 2 Detroit Instrumentals this morning and it sounds really good.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link
Just starting Dilla Time now, hells of excited to immerse myself in it.
― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link
Yeah, some of the music theory stuff can be a little "extra" but Charnas is a gripping and thorough storyteller. Book is great.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:55 (one year ago) link
I'd like to read it, but I feel like if I ever hear read anyone going on about Dilla's unquantized drum programming feel, it will be too soon.
I think even Questlove, who was of course a primary evangelist, said recently that the way Dilla constructed musical parts out of micro-sampling (single notes, tiny sounds) has been overlooked compared to the drums stuff.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
im trying to start my own cult of quik
― zzz (deej), Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:29 PM (thirteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
this worked kinda
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:27 (one year ago) link
I need to read the charnas book
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 January 2023 18:28 (one year ago) link