the rest is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eAZHnfe394
― Ѿ (imago), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link
the deconstructive element is mostly the discourse around it
― Ѿ (imago), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:29 (19 seconds ago)
this goes to show that if these same exact tracks were just found eurotrash from a moldovan soundcloud page you wouldn't give them the time of day, yet since they have been authored and introduced into the discourse stream by discourse amenable partially educated wastemen it is now 'deconstructive' (subtype playful, the best type of deconstruction)
― macho nonreal (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:39 (ten years ago) link
slightly harsh given i only found out about them by opening 'hey qt' sight unseen after steve d recommended & found it catchy, but since then i've found the 'phenomenon' and 'debate' of mild fascination, whatever though, i'm not gonna keep coming back
― Ѿ (imago), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
something i'm not clear on...imago, are you a fan of pc music or nah?
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:42 (ten years ago) link
everyone fuck off and listen to autechre or black metal or fka twigs or w/e
― Ѿ (imago), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:43 (ten years ago) link
i'm going to cofound a london-based movement called PC MUSIC whose lyrical themes will discuss cis male oppression, the fall of the gender binary and ableism. i will not be its leader, but i will be dubbed PATRIARCHY. it will be super positive & sincere & everything PC MUSIC (1) is not. alternatively, i'll trash my computer and go live in a hole
― Ѿ (imago), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link
thanks for clearing that up
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
There's a number of people here who enjoy at least some of this music and are not going to post on this depressing thread about it (any more).
ILM at it's very worst.
― everything, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 22:58 (ten years ago) link
weird al is super cynical, or at least he was back in the new wave era
― example (crüt), Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:17 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― deej loaf (D-40), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
if you don't care for actual "chartpop" you are the target audience of this music, you might as well give it a shot
― dyl, Tuesday, September 23, 2014 1:03 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
right, i don't like chartpop therefore i would like this music that presumably sounds like chartpop... wait what?
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
It mostly doesn't sound anything like chartpop. It's more like early 2000 breakbeat crossed with the last couple of Cornelius albums.
― everything, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
ok i listened to a few tracks.. kid606 updated for the bass music era. no thanks.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:09 (ten years ago) link
Early pranky kid606 i should say
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:10 (ten years ago) link
― everything, Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:58 PM (32 minutes ago)
As a strong PC Music partisan I'm going to try and speak for those people.I got in a tad ahead of the curve with the label (by way of A.G. Cook's brisk remix of DJ DJ Booth's "Heaven", which I think kind of encapsulates what everyone's overlooking in favor of the "irritating" pitched-up vocals and trance stabs), so all I had to go on to figure out what they were was the mixes and A.G.'s Tank interview where he talks about how utterly serious he is about making fun pop music, and furthermore not acting like that has to go hand-in-hand with monster budgets or major-label backing. So, you know, not a Pitchfork recommendation. Just some weird thing on Soundcloud that ticked a lot of aesthetic boxes for me. And when other people started picking up on it, I was happy, because that's how you're supposed to feel when someone else falls in love with something you like. But because Pitchfork played a noticeable role in that I think it's thrown up some false flags for a lot of people. And because it's obviously what PC Music is closest to on the spectrum of things people complain about Pitchfork for, they've gotten caught up in the tiresome "authenticity"/"sincerity" debate. Actually, that's not really right - they were involved in that beforehand. But I think it's in a markedly different way than how they're currently being called out. Because the common complaint seems to be that they're using the trappings of art-school irony to pass off subpar pop music as something better than it is. Whereas I've felt - since day one - that they were bringing the jaded art kids out into the light. And it's necessary to think of this in terms of what's going on in electronic music right now: it's experienced a long-deferred step into the spotlight (in America especially) and belatedly developed, like all other genres, a "pop" variant that's visibly distinct from the splinters that previously made up the whole of it. And the splinters are displeased by this, consider the pop-accepted variant disingenuous, and, rather than try to compete with it, retreat further into the depths. Whereas PC Music look at this turning point and say, wow, isn't this wonderful, dance music is being born again on the pop charts, unfolding right before our eyes. Which it is: a generation mostly divorced from the old scenes are finding new ways to do things, and they’re getting sizable support from big-label dollars (ie, putting aside all arguments about quality, big room house is something rather without precedent in dance music, let alone the kind that sells). And what PC Music is doing – what I think makes them totally distinct, in fact – is taking music from the “splinters”, along with the neglected flotsam of dance music’s various other stabs at pop crossover, and treating it and themselves like a major label, with an A&R department and various in-house producers and vocalists. All the trappings of pop, including some of the things usually associated with its more pernicious aspects, divorced of the actual perniciousness. And they’re visibly having a blast with it. Which is why the NPR article, and its comments (as well as the reflections of their attitude within this thread) make me more than a tad uneasy. Two guys talking about how serious and anti-fun SOPHIE supposedly was at his MoMA show, and how he and all the PC Music people are co-opting drag imagery for their entitled pseudo-pop posturing and taking advantage of their vocalists when it’s not just them pitching their own voices up. So let me make it plain: I was at the MoMA show, it was a blast, everyone in the audience had a wonderful time (and you need not take my word for it: I filmed the majority of the set, mostly pointed at the crowd due to SOPHIE’s enforced anonymity, which I’ll upload at my nearest convenience). I saw him in the VIP section chatting up QT (who is, indeed, a real person, and one distinct from Hannah Diamond at that) and later ran into him in the refreshments area, where I briefly subjected him to my effusive praise of his music and then asked him a few questions (first and foremost: his next single is called “Fizz” – or “Fizzes”, it was difficult to hear over Evian Christ). Amongst my questions came one about who was in his place on the decks during his Boiler Room set, and he responded by motioning across the room to one of his friends from the VIP section – wearing a skirt-ish denim outfit, but currently out of drag. I could sense his genuine delight at meeting someone so obsessive about what he did. So, yes, I’m going to defend him and his affiliates because I like them. But also because I think they’ve earned that affection. Just keep that in mind before you try to argue that PC Music is a label for people who can’t enjoy anything genuinely.Shout-out to Marcello Carlin, who began my love affair with pop music and is currently swearing off of ILX due to stress.
― Champiness, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:36 (ten years ago) link
Apologies for the novel, though I'd say it about equals the amount of frankly depressing stuff I've read about the label.
― Champiness, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:37 (ten years ago) link
i think i genuinely enjoy this music. it's like teen/kogan pop + vaporware mashup. i think lj is right that it's no oneohtrix, but idk these npr bros all fretting over the level of irony + distance they feel from the music. i hate to be like all sontag beyond interpretation but at some level u have to listen w/out the analysis. it sounds good (or it doesn't)
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:49 (ten years ago) link
You're supposed to be proud of yourself for being in on the joke, on knowing the references. That's the wink-wink. PC Music is almost a double-wink. It's having the ironic edge of the wink, but taking it one step further and letting us know that you even know that being IRONIC is lame. I hate to say it's post-ironic — because I hate when people say post-racial or post-gay or WHATEVER — but that's what this is, right? It's incorporated the laugh track right into the beat.
^ this is so much more embarrassing than any PC MUSIC track i've heard
― Mordy, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 00:50 (ten years ago) link
idk i feel like a lot of elements of the music and especially the presentation are practically begging to be analyzed
like i'm sorry so many of u are upset that this music is naturally going to mean different things to other ppl than it means to u
― dyl, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah i agree, these guys can't have it both ways--like it's either about fun pop music appreesh or it's about a carefully controlled image and aesthetic
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link
Why are we assuming that they are co-opting queer/drag culture??? Do we have any reason to presume that they're straight? Bcz assigning them as such by default wd be really fucking offensive.
― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link
who's we?
― the late great, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 04:34 (ten years ago) link
personally this stuff offends my senses (and sensibilities) not my politics
― the late great, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 04:38 (ten years ago) link
I love this stuff, so if the main takeaway from my Pitchfork primer was that "they are not the worst," I'm clearly going to have to keep writing about them. I mean, that wasn't meant to be a gushing personal essay or anything; it was meant as an introduction, a who's who and what's what. But I'm definitely a fan (even though not unconditionally; like I said, I think QT is undercooked so far). Love Kane West, GOFTY, Danny Harle ("Broken Flowers!"), all the mixes, etc.
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
oh did you write that?
― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
ok yr username, so yes
Once I realized it was just an intro for the unfamiliar (as noted by ": A User's Manual") and not, like, an analysis or something I warmed up to it a lot more; I spent the whole time reading it going like "YES YES I KNOW ALL OF THIS BUT THEN WHAT???" and then it was like "okay well this article's prob written for ppl who have never heard of this and don't know all of this" in which case it is a v solid piece of writing that does an excellent job of conveying their ~zhuzh~
― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link
it's either about fun pop music appreesh or it's about a carefully controlled image and aesthetic
waht, doesn't "actual" pop music encompass both of these things all the time
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 20:14 (ten years ago) link
yeah i'm expressing myself poorly there, my point is that there seem to be an undue number of "just enjoy the music, maaan" type comments when that seems like the exact opposite of what the actual pc music ppl are presenting.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 23:02 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0YD0awZQvo
― festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 25 September 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT2jCmcTOwo
― massaman gai, Saturday, 27 September 2014 08:02 (ten years ago) link
^^^^ video amazing
― davey, Saturday, 27 September 2014 13:29 (ten years ago) link
not a great article but i'm repping for that maxo feat gfoty track about halfway through in particular.
― everybody loves lana del raymond (s.clover), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link
oh, er, this article http://noisey.vice.com/en_se/blog/the-best-thing-we-heard-on-soundcloud-this-week-theres-more-to-post-ringtone-than-pc-music
new hannah diamond :)http://everynight.pcmusic.info/
― nxd, Monday, 24 November 2014 11:15 (nine years ago) link
This new Hannah Diamond track is really great, one of the best things to come out of this thing I think.
― fgti jaq, it's chinavision! (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 28 November 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
cant stop listening to this a.g. cook remix of how to dress wellhttps://soundcloud.com/howtodresswell/repeat-pleasure-a-g-cook-remix~euphoria~
― cheeseburger, Monday, 1 December 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
Similar but non-PC Music I think:
Penelope Strong - 'Penthouse Suite'
― Basically / I Don't Wanna Be / An mp3 / 3-2-0 kb / ps (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 9 December 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/3RWFG9a.png
― 龜, Friday, 30 January 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link
so many reasons why that picture is great
― mh, Friday, 30 January 2015 14:27 (nine years ago) link
lol this is fun and i like it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqL6OH5oYts
― gybe horses (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:30 (nine years ago) link
i like it
― Mordy, Wednesday, 11 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
Like bubblegum bass so much more when I can't understand what they're going on about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkYt2OxXAhA
― Sanpaku, Saturday, 14 March 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link
probably old but this is madness...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNFnKFqew_M
― mcayrshire (dog latin), Sunday, 15 March 2015 20:48 (nine years ago) link
from about five months ago is my guess
― r|t|c, Sunday, 15 March 2015 21:22 (nine years ago) link
liking the new-ish a.g. cook & hannah diamond:
https://soundcloud.com/pcmus/drop-fm
shame this stuff comes out so infrequently
― chilli, Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link
i've been blown away by some of the Danny L. Harle stuff lately. this was a good interview: http://www.dummymag.com/features/next-danny-l-harle-interview
― lil urbane (Jordan), Thursday, 19 March 2015 19:24 (nine years ago) link
Seconded. "Broken Flowers" is still my favorite thing they've ever put out.
I do like the Palette track and the title track from Spinee's "Pretty Green" though.
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 19 March 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
Now a video, with more product placement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=136&v=1MQUleX1PeA
― You and your damn elves, I'm sick of it! (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Ooops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MQUleX1PeA
― You and your damn elves, I'm sick of it! (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link
very good
― nose, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
On a Manicure tip, this Ponibbi mix that came out a couple of weeks ago is great:
http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/23884/1/hear-manicure-records-hyper-intense-pop-mix
― ineloquentwow (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 25 March 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link